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  • JackHerer
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      JackHerer  
    • 500 million gallons of toxic sludge spill in Tennessee

      By David Edwards

      The Tennessean reported:

      Millions of yards of ashy sludge broke through a dike at TVAs Kingston coal-fired plant Monday, covering hundreds of acres, knocking one home off its foundation and putting environmentalists on edge about toxic chemicals that may be seeping into the ground and flowing downriver.

      One neighboring family said the disaster was no surprise because they have watched the 1960s-era ash ponds mini-blowouts off and on for years.

      The ash slide, which began just before 1 a.m., covered as many as 400 acres as deep as 6 feet. The wave of ash and mud toppled power lines, covered Swan Pond Road and ruptured a gas line. It damaged 12 homes, and one person had to be rescued, though no one was seriously hurt.

      This video is from KoxNews.com, broadcast Dec. 23, 2008.

    • 3 years ago
  • GoodGodGuy
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      GoodGodGuy  
    • Image
    • 77 Percent Cleaner

      Over the last 35 years, America’s coal-based electricity providers have invested more than $50 billion in technologies to reduce emissions. Due to investments like these, our coal-based generating fleet is more than 77 percent cleaner on the basis of regulated emissions per unit of energy produced.

      (This might be hype but here it is!!!)

    • 3 years ago
  • futuregen
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      futuregen  
    • Obama supporting clean coal. Durbin and Ray Radiation LaHood (new cabinet member) also support coal. What did you expect from ILLinois. More coal, more nuclear.

    • 3 years ago
  • inspire_expire
  • Reverend_Papa_Bear
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      Reverend_Papa_Bear  
    • A lot of people probably think I just like to talk through my @ss so allow me to clarify this through experience.

      I lived 42 years of my life in the Ohio River Valley between the Bruce Mansfield and Sammis COAL plants. One plant was 20 miles NORTH of me and the OTHER was 20 miles SOUTH of me, and BOTH belched TONS of GHG and pollutants into the air. No amount of scrubbing helped.

      From 1979 to 1982 I worked for Colt Industries at their Crucible Steel works in Midland PA. Most of us did as that is how we made our living. My father worked there for 44 years. He died from mesothelioma. The 'coke' plant at the mill put at LEAST 163 different carcinogens into the air.

      Across from East Liverpool Ohio where we lived, Quaker State Refinery in WVA also belched carcinogens into the air.

      And let's NOT forget the Beaver Valley One & Two Nuclear plants that made Ohio River water so radioactive that it made a geiger counter spike. We drank that water.

      I was born with a congenital birth defect, a prolapsed colon and suffered from Crohn's Disease for years until the defect was repaired at Cleveland Clinic. I also have an array of other physical problems.

      So if you WANT to talk to somebody who LIVED through it then try ME!

      There is no such thing as CLEAN DIRT!

    • 3 years ago
  • AreOh
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      AreOh  
    • Jan hit the nail on the head. The issue, as most of the time in America is cost. We have several viable alternatives, however, we do not invest in these technologies to make them less costly. Other countries have already caught on to this (let's go, Holland), but because certain interests are involved in the production and selling of our top sources of energy, oil, coal, etc, billions of dollars are being funneled into perpetuating that we can still use these sources of energy with less detrimental effects. It seems like it's going to on us, the people, to disseminate the truth, and implement alternative solutions on our own. Big business simply cannot be trusted.

    • 3 years ago
  • Reverend_Papa_Bear
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      Reverend_Papa_Bear  
    • Clean coal is a theory, and that is all it is...there are NO practical applications anywhere.

      And probably never will be. There is NO way to trap GHG emissions and pollutants that come from anthracite and bituminous 'high sulfur' coal.

      High sulfur coal when burned or processed into 'coke' for steel manufacturing causes 'acid rain' as well that destroys statues, buildings, and historic monuments.

      There is NO clean 'burning' of ANYTHING!

      At least NOT in this world that I know of.

    • 3 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Solar must have parity with coal in cost per watt. It is getting there and we must push government to stop subsidizing these dirty dangerous sources of energy and give people an affordable choice!

    • 3 years ago
  • SHAWN_RITTIMAN
  • clayjj05
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      clayjj05 [removed]  
    • you guys should just turn your heaters, computers and lights off if your so against the use of coal.

      But kudos on the commercial. I love the reality commercials.

    • 3 years ago
  • 7c0m9
  • idealist
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      idealist  
    • i thought no coal was clean.......politicly speaking coal mineing has never been fun for the people that have to mine it. that alone has destroyed ecosystems around the world and created child slave labor in countrys you hear about but can do much about........ theres other solutions, there just not as profitable. except the clean renueable hypothetical energy.

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  
    • Clean coal is 70% cleaner than regular coal and they are working toward zero em missions if Obama doesn't bankrupt them first. Half of our electricity comes from coal btw.

    • 3 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • inspire_expire
  • justright
  • darkhorsejim
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      darkhorsejim  
    • Hasn't the last 8 years been enough insanity? Now is the time for GREEN CHANGE. We have to make fossil fuels extinct ASAP. The sooner sustainable energy from the elements around us - solar, wind, water, thermal - are further developed, so will mankind's hope for the future.

    • 3 years ago
  • diabolical44
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      diabolical44  
    • the phrase 'clean coal' is hilarious to me. i live in Pennsylvania, the Saudi Arabia of coal, and I can tell you that there are not many substances on this earth that are dirtier than coal. and while an investment into the coal industry would be a great boon for my local economy, it wouldn't be worth it for its damage to the environment.

      the phrase "clean coal" is like saying "healthy cancer"

    • 3 years ago
  • Qualles
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      Qualles  
    • both parties are lieing to people.
      clean coal is lieing about "coal" being clean.
      those against aren't relaying what "clean" actually is.
      ---
      investing in "clean coal" means finding an enviormentally sounds way of creating a fuel out of coal. It's possible.

    • 3 years ago
  • bluestranger
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      bluestranger  
    • Qualles:

      If I understand you correctly, at this time there is no such thing as clean coal. Then apparently all of these folks jumping in and touting clean coal are pushing a product that doesn't actually exist. Maybe the Decider will give them some bail out money to do some research. Have you ever stopped and wondered what the CEOs of big coal would fly to D.C. in, for that kind of cash?

    • 3 years ago
  • Qualles
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      Qualles  
    • Qualles:

      if you know anythin about our free market, big companies don't have to do anything. find a company who's buisness it is to make "clean coal" not a company who's buisness it is to make money for things that aren't clean coal.

    • 3 years ago
  • SHAWN_RITTIMAN
  • unimatrix0
  • booksellergirl
  • sesml2001
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      sesml2001  
    • There is no simple solution that has no consequences. However there is one thing that we all can do and that is to consume less and well that means less jobs but then we won't need as much money right.

      I say we turn off all the computers or limit them to one per household used only 1 hour a day to pay bills, read the news send emails (that cuts down on paper), same goes for the TV and every household instills game night when we all play board games that don't use electricity and maybe once a week movie night.

      We all put on an extra blanket and turn down the thermostat to 60 winter and 80 in summer.

      We buy only four pairs of shoes a year and they come from simple shoes stores. (2 sneakers 2 dress)

      We all join a car pool or ride a bus to work. The car is used only once a week to run errands. Since the kids are staying home for game night, we take them out of all that running around to soccer, baseball practice etc unless they can walk to the field or they can drag out that bicycle for transportation.

      We all turn into vegans so we don't need a refridgerator just a little ice box. (Our vegetables grown in our own back yard (with all our free tim and they won't spoil sitting on a shelf or we can can them ourselves).

      We stop using items that require batteries so the landfill doesn't get clogged up which we would have to make an allowance for our cell phones but then we promise not to buy the next new model every year and throw the old one away. And oh we can all go back to cloth diapers so the pampers aren't there as well. No more bottled water, we just put the tap water into reusable containers but not styrofoam.

      Jeez we'd be solving a whole host of problems, we'd be getting more exercise, eating better food, enjoying our families more and know what they were doing and listening to as well as helping the envirnoment. But then we'd be back in the 1970's without racial tensions and the war in vietnam oops they'd just be changed to gay rights tensions and the war in afghanstan-guess you can't have everything but we can dream.

    • 3 years ago
  • bluestranger
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      bluestranger  
    • What ever happened to truth in advertising? I guess you have to have an administration that is willing to get it's agencies to enforce it.

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • The people will accept innovation if you give it to them. To kill innovation and oppress it and then turn around and say how much you are willing to pay to change a situation that should had changed way back in the past, it seems to be an act of forceable exploitation to me.

    • 3 years ago
  • damnneargenius
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      damnneargenius  
    • The problem is the anti-advertising isn't telling people what they want to hear. They just want their lights to work at the lowest possible price, unless you package an immediate painful consequence to their perception, they will tend to just choose to ignore the problem until it will no longer ignore them.

      Let's implement a "truthful free speech" initiative that will wipe out such problems along with a lot of other bullsh*t in one fell swoop.

      Here is the truth about what's going on. He is how much it costs. Here is how much it costs you. Here are your other options. Here are the pros and cons should you be willing to choose to pay for it.

      Any questions?

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
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      stopnoise  
    • damnneargenius:

      The World wide energy crisis happened in the 70's. One would think America had enough time to change its ways to a better and clean source of energy. Many times, "Time" speaks loud and clear. "Who kill the electric car?"

    • 3 years ago
  • stopnoise
  • victimofcoal
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      victimofcoal  
    • WOW, after 10 years of screaming and fighting against this "friends of coal " propoganda campaign , finally an ad that tells the truth. ROCK ON REALITY! Sad that it is already to late for 41 counties in Appalachia.

    • 3 years ago
  • justright
  • Reverend_Papa_Bear
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      Reverend_Papa_Bear  
    • victimofcoal:

      I lived in the Appalachian District as well. If 'black lung' doesn't get you then 'lung cancer' will instead.

      I lived in Columbiana County, Ohio. Just a hop skip and jump from Hancock County WVA, (across the Ohio River).

    • 3 years ago
  • justright
  • inspire_expire
  • justaslost
  • futuregen
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