A car that gives 310mpg of water
source: http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-3932305,prtpage-1.cms
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The project tackles the twin crises of exhaustion of renewable energy resources and global warming. "Our first prototype released in August last year delivered a mileage of 180 kilometre per litre. The new vehicle is being touted as the most fuel-efficient vehicle in India," observes Aashay Sahay, Project Garuda team member."
Technology in prototypes promise a lot but mysteriously never hit the road! I remember reading about a car which ran on water in 1960s and never made to the consumer. Hope this project doesn't go down the drain.
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JanforGore
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There is a scarcity of Potable water. Growing population, drought, erratic rainfall patterns due to climate change, massive pollution of waterways, glacier melt, water evaporation due to warming temperatures, water waste mainly from agricultural practices that are not used to conserve water, privitzation of water resources for profit which limits what poor people in developing countries can do regarding buying water, water mismanagement, dam building that diverts water thus threatening the environment, habitats, marinelife, and agriculture. I could go on, but I think the point has been made. You want a water car? Find a way for all people in this world to have the potable water they need to live first. And isn't salt corrosive? That is the main concern of desalination... it leaves much salt behind that when returned to the ocean can harm marinelife. I still say electric and solar cars are the way to go. Leave the water for living.
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JanforGore
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Cynic2
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Good technology. We need to use it. Am puzzled, though, I've heard of future water shortages and future wars due to it. How can there be a water shortage when the world is mostly water? True, we'd have to de-salt, filter, and recycle it, but surely we could recycle the SALT into the ecosystem, couldn't we?
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Cynic2
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Rfuller6
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I'm all for Fred Flinstone powered automobiles. hahaha.
Who's with me? ha - 3 years ago
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Rfuller6
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One of my designs is a hydrogen generator that sits under your solar panel on the roof. It puts a full day's fuel in a tank in the garage, then reduces your power bill.
You never go to a gas station again. - 3 years ago
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sesml2001
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From my limited knowledge of converting hydrogen to water, the end point is pure water since the water is essentially the delivery system for the energy; so why wouldn't you want water to power cars? .Hydrogen and helium gases are constantly being electronically charged in sunlight releasing the energy caused from the chemical change which makes the energy found in nature. The trick is to find a way to harness this to be used by cars.
This means leaves less waste then creating hydrogen to be transported in compressed containers and distributed via gas station like delivery systems.
Salt water is ionized and therefore probably need to go thru some desalination process before you could use it which may be possible but would probably require additional energy and resources / technology.
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sesml2001
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tomofnorthcal
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No water for fuel, dah.
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tomofnorthcal
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freeus
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A shortage of water is a not an issue people.
Give your heads a shake.
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freeus
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bedeboop
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freeus:
Where do you live?
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bedeboop
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marboss
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freeus:
I'm sure that's why the world health organization has a whole section devoted to "the right for water"
http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/emerging/en/ - 3 years ago
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marboss
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incendiary
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freeus:
The widespread droughts and flooding are due to global warming and will only continue to get more severe if the root cause isn't dealt with. Global warming is caused primarily by CO2 and Methane releases: top three culprits: fossil fuels, deforestation, and livestock. Slowly phasing out a technology that causes the CO2 release isn't going to do widespread harm.
Some of you are assuming that these cars will contribute to the droughts. However, in order for that to be a problem, a good portion of the population would need to immediately purchase a shiny new water powered car. Most people don't have that kind of cash lying around. Even assuming that whatever company decides to produce these cars (which get more than 2 times the mpg than I get per *tank* of gas) decides to release a PROTOTYPE technology for cheap---which never happens (gotta pay for R&D somehow)---think of how many hybrid and electric cars are on the road today despite the introduction of the technology in the late 1800s.
Sure, they're increasing in number, but they're still rare enough that the novelty of seeing a hybrid on the road hasn't worn off. A car that uses water isn't going to use up water that could be going to aid people in Somalia and Kenya. The sooner we start implementing this and related technologies, the sooner the droughts will cease to be a problem.
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incendiary
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JanforGore
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freeus:
Please don't tell me what my opinion should be as you have no idea what this would or would not contribute to. I would never buy a car that runs on water. PERIOD.
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JanforGore
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One thing the rest of us can do, is to don't loose track of this project and demand it's application to our politicians. If it's out of the public eye, it might get lost for ever as it has happed before.
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MarcialCZ
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iameam
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Janforgore is right on! Some would say that the wars of today are really (if we're being honest) being fought over oil. Others say that the wars of tomorrow will be fought over water. But does is really have to come to that?
No...
Let's push for the Air Car! Check it out!
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iameam
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Sam_the_Wizer
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They're separating water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen (most likely through electrolosis). This is NOT a source of energy, but merely a means of storing energy. It takes energy to split these molecules, and that energy is released during combustion. The power to split the water will likely come from the grid, which means ultimately it is coal and oil powering these cars.
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JanforGore
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Sam_the_Wizer:
Hmm, an oil company getting in on selling 'water powered' cars to greenwash and still make money. Sounds about right to me.
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JanforGore
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jdeuel
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The issue with all these fuel efficient cars is they're stripped down motorcycles without any modern safety features weighing them down, and on top of that they're vastly unattractive to the modern consumer with their George Jetson aerodynamics.
I'm all for a million MPG and would even get the george-jetson-mobile, but if they are to ever take off they need to look like cars, and have the safety features of cars.
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jdeuel
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Jacques_of_Spades
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A boat?
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Jacques_of_Spades
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bedeboop
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Water???? Terrific, use another shrinking resource to get us moving around. Baaaaaad idea.
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bedeboop
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jdeuel
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bedeboop:
The oceans called, they say they're still there and still for all intents and purposes an infinite source of water.
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jdeuel
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bedeboop
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bedeboop:
Infinite? How do you figure?
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bedeboop
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dylan_marie
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I'm glad people are taking interest in helping the situation instead of sucking more money from it. Why doesn't the government persue this since it pretty much solves the problem of global warming and using up all the fossil fuels?
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We have oceans of water. Good drinking water is another subject.
All these resources need management if we are to continue with large populations.
Forestry and plant-life, water, land-use, land-reclamation, oceans, animals, energy, sewage, communications, and travel.
There have been many designs for better cars and engines.
However, we have people who take everything for themselves. If you patent an engine that runs on ZERO fuel, they will take it.
That's why you don't have that. - 3 years ago
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JanforGore
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If there is no scarcity then explain the drought in over 45% of the world now that is leading to famine and the fact that over a billion people do not have potable water. How about helping them first? Water is scarcer around the world due to glacier melt, pollution, privitization and also waste. Also water evaporation is on the rise due to warmer temperatures. Anglcazn is correct and I don't think this is a good idea, just like building more coal plants that use billions of gallons of water is a bad idea, as is nuclear energy which wastes water. And taking it from the ocean which I am sure someone will say, could harm marinelife. Much to think about before rushing into anything since we humans don't seem to be wired to conserve and do the right thing regarding our water.
We cannot afford to waste more water in a world that is already water scarce with population rising and predictions calling for more severe drought. And if it is going to be reclaimed it should be done so to feed people, not run someone' s car so they can go shopping. I would rather see people in the world using that water to eat and live and get proper medical attention. Millions oif children die each year due to unnecessary waterborne diseases and malnutrition. I think it is more important to deal with that first regarding water resources.
There are also many other alternate energy sources like electric and solar that can be perfected to run cars that do not waste a valuable resource like water. What next, NESTLE CARS? Also, water vapor is a greenhouse gas that actually perpetuates climate change, or global warming if you care to use that phrase. Helping people to have potable water to live and eat, up. Using it to run your car while they go without it, down.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore:
So you say that water scarcity is being caused by global warming huh? A car that burns less fossil fuel will not contribute to global warming as much. Besides these cars will probably not require clean pure drinking water. They can probably run on salt water just fine and we have plenty of that.
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T_Rose
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JanforGore
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JanforGore:
Really? Tell that to the marinelife that need it to live that are already suffering in the calcified oceans. Some people are simply selfish beyond belief. We already have resources that could run your car that will not interfere with the life cycle of other species and yet you choose a source that is in need to be used elsewhere? And what happens when the seas run dry because people wasted it all as well to run their cars to go to the mall?
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JanforGore
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tursiops
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It's always good to find new ways to move, I'll be curious to see which one stays.
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tursiops
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madeyes
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the is water every were in fact the ocean yes we can find a use for that vast budy of water but we are so stuck in the old ways hydrogen is not a bad start. sadly i tell you it may never hapen the true powers at be wii not like it check out alex jones on youtube
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madeyes
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ras_menelik
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500 Km/ 1 L~1000 MPG
180 Km/ 1 L=310 MPG - 3 years ago
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ras_menelik
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sesml2001
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There is already a couple of science guy's on u-tube that say they can give you the designs to make this technology in your own garage. You take the hydrogen supplement to add to your gasoline and increase your gas milage drastically. You have to make some small updates to your engine to accept it. I found it by doing a search on hydrogen fuel.
I also found an article at Dept of energy that says they took that technology to use in the military hummers but don't advocate it for general population because of the need to run electricity thru water to get the extract and that would put a strain on power plants which increases their use of fossil fuels so you are only trading one for the other.
So i guess we are awaiting a solar or wind power that can be attached to your car to take the water from the radiator pass it thru electricity from your batter -separate out the hydrogen to increase the explosion of gasoline or be pure enough to run a combustion engine and then redeposit the untainted water back into the radiator to start all over again all without causing its own enviromental issues.
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sesml2001
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anglcazn
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Sounds great but one problem...
We're having water shortages around the world...
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anglcazn
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cheetum
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anglcazn:
water is a renewable resource
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cheetum
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anglcazn
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anglcazn:
Then why are there water shortages around the world? I understand that water is renewable but it takes more energy to turn water back to its form.
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anglcazn
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JanforGore
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anglcazn:
If there is no scarcity then explain the drought in over 45% of the world now that is leading to famine and the fact that over a billion people do not have potable water. How about helping them first? Water is scarcer around the world due to glacier melt, pollution, privitization and also waste. Also water evaporation is on the rise due to warmer temperatures. Anglcazn is correct and I don't think this is a good idea, just like building more coal plants that use billions of gallons of water is a bad idea, as is nuclear energy which wastes water. And taking it from the ocean which I am sure someone will say, could harm marinelife. Much to think about before rushing into anything since we humans don't seem to be wired to conserve and do the right thing regarding our water.
We cannot afford to waste more water in a world that is already water scarce with population rising and predictions calling for more severe drought. And if it is going to be reclaimed it should be done so to feed people, not run someone' s car so they can go shopping. I would rather see people in the world using that water to eat and live and get proper medical attention. Millions oif children die each year due to unnecessary waterborne diseases and malnutrition. I think it is more important to deal with that first regarding water resources.
There are also many other alternate energy sources like electric and solar that can be perfected to run cars that do not waste a valuable resource like water. What next, NESTLE CARS? Also, water vapor is a greenhouse gas that actually perpetuates climate change, or global warming if you care to use that phrase. Helping people to have potable water to live and eat, up. Using it to run your car while they go without it, down.
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JanforGore
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anglcazn:
There is one town, on the Alabama border, that had to shut their water down in the whole town. It was only turned on for a couple of hours each day, at that time, work virtually stopped in the town as people went home to take showers, cook meals, and do whatever they needed that involved water. The water would then be shut off until the next day. Water was being carted 27 miles, one way I believe, in fire trucks so that the town could have water. If I remember right, pipes were finally put in from the neighboring Alabama town so the town could have water once again. I don't know much about renewable water, the most I have heard of is desalinzation, and isn't that very expensive and would that not deplete the ocean waters? And what about the marine life living in them? A world without fish, dolphins, sharks, everything. Doesn't sound that great to me. Not sure about this area...so any help would be appreciated.
I live in Wyoming, just came out of drought after ten years. I lived in Las Vegas before moving here...it became so bad you could only water on certain days.
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bedeboop
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anglcazn:
Hey hey hey, if you BURN THE ELEMENTS OF WATER, you just make water vapor, which will condense and rain down from the sky.
No it doesn't require more energy, it actually requires that the water LOSE energy to become liquid once again.
If this model is like the Stanley Meyer model, then it can use any form of water, sea water, lake water, no matter what.
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asherp
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anglcazn:
So, we would have to virtually live in humid climates every day while the water was being burned to evaporise, rise to the sky and rain back down? This after BURNING water to get it back? Makes no sense to me. Unless I misunderstood? (If so, just holler)
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bedeboop
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anglcazn:
"If this model is like the Stanley Meyer model, then it can use any form of water, sea water, lake water, no matter what"
But then you're asking to endanger the species that live in the water just so we can run a car. And you can't just "burn" water. We have global warming where temperatures are rising around some parts of the world. Where are the rain clouds that are suppose to happen? It's not that simple.
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anglcazn
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anglcazn:
sorry I know this is an old topic but I had to clarify something.
Our planet is not running out of water, nor is it losing water. There's about 360 quintillion gallons of water on the planet, and it's not going anywhere except in a circle. Earth's hydrologic cycle is a closed system, and the process is as old as time: evaporation, condensation, precipitation, infiltration, and so on. In fact, there is probably more liquid water on Earth than there was just a few decades ago, due in part to global warming and melting polar ice caps.
Water shortages that you read about in the news are regional. The problem is not that we are running out of water, the problem is with how we use and distribute it. Purifying and transporting the water from places where its plentiful to places that need it can be costly. Add to that poor planning and management by those who govern the distribution and that's when you run into problems.
We need vehicles like this one not only because they are more energy efficient but because they are also healthier on our environment. You specify global warming as a concern in your argument against using water-powered vehicles but the irony is that these vehicles will help reduce global warming, so you should be supporting it.
In regards to water shortages, we need to be supporting advances in technologies and ideas that will make distributing water cheaper and more efficiently to areas that need it.
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cheetum
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Eis4Epic
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thats horrable.. why would people agree to dystroy the world for wealth... it just dosnt make sence.
with out the world
there is no value to money - 3 years ago
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Eis4Epic
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pjacobs51
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There's a lot of good technology out there, but rumor has it that even in the 60s, big oil was buying up the patents and shelving them, just to protect their interests.
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pjacobs51
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pjacobs51:
Yup that's what I have read!!
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mqz4
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pjacobs51:
Yeah thats what i read.
I find it quite stupid that a group of inventors would sell their product- which purpose of being was to prevent climate change and help retain from using oil- to those who will just hide it from public; destroying the environmental revolution it could create.Sell outs! =P
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