Tech | January 26, 2009 | 84 comments

Google plans to eradicate PCs

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The Google Drive, could kill off the desktop PC, which relies on a hard drive. Instead a user's personal files and operating system could be stored on Google's own servers and accessed via the internet.

Industry critics warn of danger in giving internet leader further power.
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  • Highr0ller
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      Highr0ller [removed]  
    • In the article it says:

      'But does it matter to you that someone can see everything on your computer? Does it matter that Google can be subpoenaed at any time to hand over all your data to the American government?"
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      We kid ourselves if we think we have privacy. There is no such thing.....and everything on our computers can be seen by Big Brother. It's like the identity card scenario.....if you got nothing to hide why worry.

      That said.....I got nothing to hide, but I have a book almost written and it has NEW INFORMATION not already in the public domain.....it is important that this is not stolen, so I'm happy to keep this on a memory key or two.

      Already I store some things on an extra Gmail account. I can't see the big deal. I got little to hide if anything.

    • 3 years ago
  • mik661
  • Dunedigger
  • Ragan
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      Ragan  
    • How about this scenario. Remember how back about 1910 when the Big money controllers sent an agent out to find and buy 25 major newspapers so that they could control the mass media and now we have seen for the past 100 years how our mass media is no less that an entertainment digest. So now what happens when or maybe it has already happened that the big money already owns Google and soon we will be watching and hearing just what they want to. Censored. No thanks I prefer to be as free as I can and that does not mean sharing with someone who has a library full of laws that protectsm then while we have a butchered Constitution to protect us.

    • 3 years ago
  • sammysoul
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      sammysoul  
    • Google already has access to all my e-mails. That should be enough. I won't store any other data with them, have to draw a line somewhere.

    • 3 years ago
  • PROYECTOarismuca
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      PROYECTOarismuca  
    • And when is this supposed to happen? I would hate to buy an old-fashioned HD computer the day before Google's drive came out.

      Then again, maybe Apple, Microsoft, Yahoo, etc., will take this as the next level of competition among themselves.

    • 3 years ago
  • ejasun
  • justright
  • emocdesign
  • mykuh
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      mykuh  
    • Not only do they want it this way to slow down your access of your files, and for snooping reasons, but they also want to charge you monthly to use it.

      And you get charged monthly for applications, and charged monthly for games, and charged monthly for access...

      They're just looking for a way to rip you off other than you just buying a computer and software and being done with the transaction.

    • 3 years ago
  • booksellergirl
  • purplefox
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      purplefox  
    • I like the idea and already archive a fair amount on email accounts, though I'm not sure I entirely trust storing all my stuff on the internet. Keeping my hard drives safe is my own lookout, but I'll have no control over how Google safeguards them, should anything go wrong.

    • 3 years ago
  • barnabasnagy
  • sillei
  • tomofnorthcal
  • wayseeker
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      wayseeker  
    • I don't understand the technicalities involved here but I know one thing. I don't want Google to have access to all of my information. China asked yahoo to block certain information they don't want their people to know from being available on the Internet. Yahoo agreed and is now doing it. Big brother in action. Google is keeping our on line activity for 18 months. During that time they are sharing your activity with businesses and that info could be shared just as easily with the government. They say they just share general accesses to sites and not the individuals. How do we know if this is true? If I'm paranoid so be it. I don't trust Google or Yahoo and I don't want them to continue trying to manipulate the Internet and thereby you and me.

    • 3 years ago
  • clayjj05
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      clayjj05 [removed]  
    • If your on the internet they can get your stuff if you want them to or not.

      Your only safe on a computer that isn't connected to the internet without wireless capability.

    • 3 years ago
  • Mikeysfake1
  • mkl2695
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      mkl2695  
    • At first blush it sounds like a good idea,however it is as chilling as big brother when oneconsiders the ramifications.

    • 3 years ago
  • Sam_the_Wizer
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      Sam_the_Wizer  
    • You could easily accomplish the same thing with a USB flash drive that you keep in your pocket. Install the operating system, and as long as you're on a system that supports USB booting you have your computer with your information with you wherever you go.

    • 3 years ago
  • SHAWN_RITTIMAN
  • Ragan
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      Ragan  
    • No way!! I like google but I wouldnt trust my personal information to any one in Government, nor to any corporation and google is no difference than any corporation. I agree I am waiting for solid state media. No moving parts, just clock signals moving data. Nano technology should be able to give us some nano drives. thats really something to look forward to. Drives with a trigabyte or two.

    • 3 years ago
  • RepressThis
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      RepressThis  
    • hardwareless computers with no operating systems.... come on thats sounds like the greatest evolution in personal computing we've seen in decades. Think of how much the price point on computers will fall. Google's Cloud storage will bring the possibility for computers in the hands of must students around the world. So as long as they introduce internet 2.0, with global access even in the depts of Africa. (Supposively the signals would come from satellites)

    • 3 years ago
  • Micaleth
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      Micaleth  
    • I would use it for music, photos, video files and games.
      It would be perfect to store all my pirated torrent and irc downloads.

      It will never "take the place" of my desktop though.
      I would NEVER allow Google full access to my personal data.

      But if they are gonna sell storage space cheap and have the bandwidth to support it I AM gonna abuse the hell out of it.

    • 3 years ago
  • kchavan
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      kchavan  
    • This is where Journalists get to demonstrate their skills in presenting old trash as a ground breaking new story. This Google drive thing is not new, it's been around for at least three years :) How can it eradicate PCs? How can you have a cloud OS without hardware?

    • 3 years ago
  • derk
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      derk  
    • This is a very interesting idea. I will have to research it to really understand if it is possible/plausible.

      I hear that privacy issues will certainly arise, but I agree with some of you that what you may think is private now isn't. And that if someone wants your stuff badly enough they will get it anyway.

      However, the larger point is that if this helps underprivileged people gain access to technology that they otherwise can't afford then it may be a good idea.

      Computers and technology shouldn't just be in the hands people with money.

    • 3 years ago
  • GatorMonkey
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      GatorMonkey  
    • OK - To start, on a personal level, I'm not saying I think this is the best idea, or would want to do this. BUT I did want to look at it from a perspective other than "stay out of my stuff paranoia"

      The original idea behind Google's internet matrix (i.e. having everything accessable online as software vs hardware) stems from the whole SaaS business model which stands for Software as a Service. The main idea behind this is to bring lower cost services that can be upgraded and used at low to no cost. VS something like (as much as I adore it) PhotoShop which gets updated quite often and is ridculously expensive.

      Think VoIP (uhm, Skype). That is basically what this is. Taking the hardware out of the picture. If you like skype, then you are pretty much doing the same thing with the Gdrive except, I mean yea, it is personal information.

      AND on the other end... how many of you out there, who think this is a horrible idea, use paypal? Or have used paypal. PayPal, when you get down to the nuts and bolts, is really just an online bank.... its honestly like having your "bank info" on a Gdrive.

      Will I be the first to subscribe to GDrive? No. Im not that brave. But I do understand the matrix idea and can see the benefits (as well as the downside). If they were able to really fix the kinks out then I wouldnt be opposed to using the Gdrive for SOME of my hard drive stuff. Maybe not everything, but if you've ever had a computer crash, the idea of a virtual backup isn't THAT bad of an idea.

    • 3 years ago
  • tokyo_chic
  • 2muchinfo
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      2muchinfo  
    • I like have a hard drive. This is just another way Google is trying to take over Canada, then the U.S, and next the world. We can't allow them to takeover the U.S cause then were all screwed. "Google is VERY EVIL!" Fight now or your just going to get googled.

    • 3 years ago
  • Alex_French
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      Alex_French  
    • are you fucking kidding me?

      this is the stupidest shit i have ever heard in my life.

      fuck google. they can kiss my dick. they'll never get anything of mine.

    • 3 years ago
  • 2hellnwait
  • shade1012
  • mindcontrol
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      mindcontrol  
    • I can't believe it took this long for them to come up with this. As for people worrying about their privacy... worrying won't do anything so why worry? You don't have any PRIVACY... are you serious?

      Having your info on a hard drive is just an illusion of privacy. If the MAN wants to know about you, he's going to know about you and there is nothing you can do about that with the exception of unplugging from the system all together.

      ~ Mind Control

    • 3 years ago
  • dirtyemowords
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      dirtyemowords  
    • well we store shed-loads of info on sites like facebook and myspace, what else is there? online banking...well, that covers financial info...its not a great idea, but its a step closer to the mangerial state

    • 3 years ago
  • extraordinaryways
  • cybexg
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      cybexg  
    • OMG, does no one here other than me not understand the value here?

      Cloud computing, done with reasonably secure (Comprehend information theory and encryption before commenting ) encryption enables the prospect of your information to be available much like a bank does with your money. Your medical records are accessible instantly by your new doctor, new dentist, etc.

      Cloud computing isn't about YOUR usage of YOUR information, its about CONTROLLING access and DISTRIBUTING YOUR information seamlessly and without loss to those you deem to have your information.

    • 3 years ago
  • exinron
  • Alex_French
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      Alex_French  
    • exinron:

      i know, it's terrible to think about

      even the idea of my personal files (however uninteresting) being kept on the internet where i can't access them without the use of said internet...

      makes me sick at google. i'm using alta vista from now on.

    • 3 years ago
  • CalgarC
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      CalgarC  
    • that is impossible and could never happen. there are some many studio, musicians, video editors, artists who rely on raid and powerful harddrive setup for their work. when working with and processing real-time audio/video effects you need the harddrive space and power. an internet cable cannot fulfil that

    • 3 years ago
  • expatincebu
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      expatincebu  
    • Many people would go for this, many more would not.

      One big upside, it would certainly make file sharing/swapping much easier! How can the MIAA sue me for allowing you to listen to a song on my data space? You are not downloading or copying it after all.

    • 3 years ago
  • petarro
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      petarro  
    • This will surely happen. It will take some time but will happen. Specially when internet speeds get a lot faster.

      Windows Live, Google Docs, What do you think these are? Facebook?

      If any of you have a web based CRM or application with which you work daily, was this application based on a program before? Most of these are being merged to WebBased as they are easier and run everywhere.

      Soon or later, it will happen, slowly. The main issue is of course, privacy, but at this point, BELIEVE ME at least on this one, You already have -non-.

    • 3 years ago
  • Saladin
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      Saladin  
    • The amount of bandwidth this would require would be stupid and insane. Plus why would you delegate your files over to a private company when you can have them in the comfort of your own home without an internet connection?

    • 3 years ago
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  
    • Performance is a lot bigger issue than security, since not even the fastest connection in the world is faster than having an application using RAM.

      It sharing files and storage on the Net has some advantages if they are the kind that more than one person involved in a project has to have access to in order to make progress on when multiple decisions on that project are needed.

      But not with things like OS, multimedia and applications that need faster and more intensive calcutions since local storage is a lot more effiicient for the speed of performance.

    • 3 years ago
  • RevolutionSoldier
  • Saladin
  • mforce
  • omordn
  • 4saken
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      4saken  
    • You'd need a special reason to need your OS online. You already want your OS on the fastest HD you have, putting it online would just slow down the data access even more by making your connection speed a factor.

      Even if you need to access your OS on other comps, just put it on a thumb drive or external.

    • 3 years ago
  • NFUSA
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      NFUSA  
    • This would allow for google's continued monopolization of the internet and would give them more control over our lives. For reasons of privacy and common sense I don't think this would be a good idea.

    • 3 years ago
  • RepressThis
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      RepressThis  
    • hardwareless computers with no operating systems.... come on thats sounds like the greatest evolution in personal computing we've seen in decades. Think of how much the price point on computers will fall. Google's Cloud storage will bring the possibility for computers in the hands of must students around the world. So as long as they introduce internet 2.0, with global access even in the depts of Africa. (Supposively the signals would come from satellites)

    • 3 years ago
  • mik661
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      mik661  
    • RepressThis:

      The problem is that access to a pc reduced students permformance and increase the amount of time they are sitting on their ass. They watch less tv, read even less, but total hours of screen time go up. I have four teenage girls I know this to be a fact!

    • 3 years ago
  • elnawal
  • rjupiter
  • damnneargenius
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      damnneargenius  
    • Google is not unlike God in a way.

      What is God if not infinite knowledge?

      OK, well, perhaps we still have infinity to go, but they are probably way ahead of any other organization on Earth at this point.

      Ah yes, my plan is coming together perfectly...

    • 3 years ago
  • cheakywillie
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      cheakywillie  
    • you will never find me ready to surrender all of my personal data online...but if you work in an industry that needs you to transfer alot of data all the time this might not be a bad thing to have....not only that computer cafe's will come back stronger because people will use thier computers instead of bringing thier own......why cant i spell their{}{}{}}

    • 3 years ago
  • St_Alia_10191
  • tommytripper
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      tommytripper  
    • ya right... i would not use that.... i would rather not have access to the internet then be an other one of googles mass of slaves...

      oops i said something they did not like and blaamo my stuff is gone... or worse they can see what i have been upto news, opinions, more news, more opinions... and what the hell is a guy to do with all that porn i have stocked up... trust googles nerds with it... hellll no..

      WELCOME TO THE GOOGLETRIX, where everything is a little slower and dumbed down so you do not understand how bad you are getting screwed...

    • 3 years ago
  • crob80227
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      crob80227  
    • Seems impractical and a little pointless.

      I mean, we can already put GIGABYTES of information on very, very, very small cards...so why would I want to rely on an internet connection to store my files?

      Look at the iPhone (or similar devices). If the internet goes out or I'm in an area with no signal then I still have everything on my portable device.

      Since memory cards are so small in size, so massive in storage capacity and consume so little energy....then Google is purposing a "solution" to a problem that does't actually exist.

      I just don't see any real world advantage to storing all your files online as opposed to on a multi-gigabyte memory card.

    • 3 years ago
  • GatorMonkey
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      GatorMonkey  
    • crob80227:

      crob - you know i normally agree w your thought process, but... has your iphone crashed yet?

      or your mac/pc. My mac crashed... I lost EVERYTHING. (yes people, MACs DO crash... more often than you realize)

      I wouldn't mind having perhaps a BACKUP online. Maybe not the main drive online, but a backup. I could see that being really useful.

      I agree, the internet isn't reliable enough right now to depend on it to store your information.

      BUT this concept is already being implemented by b usinesses everywhere. They use central switches to digitally back up their hard drives and important information that can be lost due to crashed or even natural disasters.

      Ex. A company using this backup system in florida loses the use of their computers after a hurricane. Rather than being out and unable to continue working while power is out (in florida that could last weeks ater a major hurricane), the company can set up shop in a remote location outside of the affected area and continue w/ business.

      The general population would obviously be opposed to this idea originally because its not mainstream. BUT the concept is in use by many businesses nationwide (although not through google... which is more of a consumer geared service) already. Its just not widely discussed because this is the first time the idea is being brought down to us.

    • 3 years ago
  • GatorMonkey
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      GatorMonkey  
    • crob80227:

      OH yea, which brings me to this: to those who have said they dont want their personal information on the internet like that.

      There is a good chance it's already there. If a company (say, a bank or something... sorry I keepy sayig banks its just the first thing that comes to mind) or your electricty company (i know, a stretch) is using this type of backup for THEIR systems. then you're already out there whether you know it or not

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • It won't happen, most people will never trust their personal files with any website on the web, and should they do so anyway and they, for whatever reason, no longer be able to access the internet, they would no longer have access to their files.

    • 3 years ago
  • petarro
  • cybexg
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      cybexg  
    • Vierotchka:

      Not to disagree but....

      1) All the social sites that contain all sorts of information
      2) various WAN and WAN-like storage of online banking
      etc.

      As for access, think various caching mechanisms (schemes)

      As for "most people", well a lot of people already trust a huge amount of information to be online. Also, many of the big players are betting that "cloud" computing will be very big in the future.

      Of course, they are viewing it much like how an online bank operates w/ your money - that is they will control and provide access to your personal information to those you specify. They will then charge a fee to provide that access and control (just like an online bank does w/ your money).

    • 3 years ago
  • GatorMonkey
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      GatorMonkey  
    • Vierotchka:

      Cy is right. Well at least I agree w/ their opinion.

      You already have a ton of information online. Even just by being on current!

      Most everything is done by way of internet clouds now. Even those of you who use LAN lines are actually having your call routed to a degree, through an internet connection. Why? Because most major providers have their own systems on a VoIP or WAN system and its just how it works. I don't know how to really explain it, i just understand it having worked for a ITSP for a little while (not now,... but previously).

    • 3 years ago
  • Nephwrack
  • conservativelyliberal
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      conservativelyliberal  
    • seems like the logical next step in tech evolution to me.... big brother has been just around the corner anyway.

      I think most of us have fooled ourselves into thinking that such a thing dosent already exist. As we speak, if a semi-intelligent person wants to access everything on our hard drives, it would'nt be too challenging.

      I am sure they are going to create an illusion of privacy, just like now.

    • 3 years ago
  • Maitereya
  • hydrokat
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      hydrokat  
    • Maitereya:

      I don't like any Corporation having this type of control period. What about Hostile attacks by third party cyberterrorists. I've got great Security through Verizon and that's about as far as I'm willing to take it.

    • 3 years ago
  • simplecj
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      simplecj  
    • Ya, but if you want to play any serious games or use any heavy software like 3D modeling or media editing programs, you will still need a hard drive. I don't mind keeping my email online, but until we have unlimited bandwidth there is no way to get full computer productivity without a local drive.

      What they're talking about is basically an internet box, not a true computer. There's no way this will ever replace the local operating system and storage.

      Seriously, what happens if communications are lost for some reason or another? Your fancy new Google Box is now a useless tool until the internet is restored.

      The future for PC's is in Solid State Drives! Can't wait till they're more affordable...

    • 3 years ago
  • GatorMonkey
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      GatorMonkey  
    • simplecj:

      Totally right. I don't know if you've ever heard or seen it, but Google is basically held on a main switch (I've actually seen one of their main switches) and its exactly what you are talking about.

      Until every computer is running off, i guess the amount of bandwidth that essentially goes into a MetroE line, then it may make computer use very frustrating.

    • 3 years ago
  • cybexg
  • This_Guy
  • kcfoxie
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      kcfoxie  
    • It's extending what is already popular by other IPS.

      AOL moved mail and favorites, along with the address book, online in the late 90s. No one has missed crashing their computer and losing that data.

      I'd be happy to let Google hold most of my stuff. Why? Nothing I have is secret.

    • 3 years ago
  • Alex_French
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      Alex_French  
    • kcfoxie:

      that isnt the point. you sound like a tool. i don't have anything of interest to anyone at google or the government or any hacker on my hard drive either. few people do! but what's mine is mine, and not google's. who the hell do they think they are?

      it isn't the "secret" stuff the googlement may want, but the mundane details. the more facts they gather about you, the more shit they can target you with.

    • 3 years ago
  • GatorMonkey
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      GatorMonkey  
    • kcfoxie:

      Alex - that was pretty harsh and no offense but KC isn't the one who sounds like a tool right now. You sound more paranoid than anything,.

      Think about it rationally - if google were to coerce the populus into leaving a hard drive world and joining their matrix (essentially what this whole idea is... a large cloud), there would be some pretty extreme restrictions and privacy notations.

      Tell me, have you ever purchased anything off ebay or the internet and used paypal as your payment method? You do realize, the way paypal is set up now, they have full access to your bank accounts and credit cards.

      You are right in the respect that its nothing to do with "anything to hide" but rather having your personal information in a virtual storage system versus a little box that makes you feel like its better protected.

      BUT if you are gonna use the arguments you just used I would stop using wireless internet, paypal, any other online banking or storage site (such as networking sites) and dont ever purchase something online. Because those mundane bits of information that you worry about are already available for the world to see if they know what they are doing.

      Careful with your finger pointing.

    • 3 years ago
  • callenstewart
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      callenstewart  
    • kcfoxie:

      And please - let's not forget how successful AOL has been of late.

      Do you really want to trust your personal files to an internet titanic? I love Google as much as the next guy, but come on... if we've learned anything lately it's that even the giants can fall. And when that happens, where will your address book be?

    • 3 years ago
  • simplecj
  • Goofyboy
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      Goofyboy  
    • Don't count on this being much more than a fad. Humans are a tempermental sort. They like to have their things close. The mere thought that an entity could deny them access to their things is enough to keep it from ever happening.

    • 3 years ago
  • ny_nj_soulchild
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      ny_nj_soulchild  
    • The hard drive is better...i really don't care if the internet will hold my things. there is too many hackers out there and gov't officials spying...either way...it will not make a difference so...

    • 3 years ago
  • ClareW
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      ClareW  
    • All my stuff on the internet? hmm can't say I'm too thrilled about that notion, enough private info is on there already...

    • 3 years ago
  • IonHand
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      IonHand  
    • ClareW:

      Unfortunately when you connect to the internet your stuff is potentially available. Any Trojan (among other security breaches) can expose the inners of your computer.

    • 3 years ago
  • UWAZell
  • kchavan
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      kchavan  
    • ClareW:

      This is where Journalists get to demonstrate their skills in presenting old trash as a ground breaking new story. This Google drive thing is not new, it's been around for at least three years :) How can it eradicate PCs? How can you have a cloud OS without hardware?

    • 3 years ago
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