Man not alone in universe?

I don't think it matters if we're alone in the universe or not. There is no reason to believe that our existences affect one another in anyway.

They may very well be out there. The question becomes whether it really matters since Einstein proved that faster-than-light travel is not possible (and even speeds APPROACHING the speed of light are highly improbably for a number of reasons, not least of which is that hitting a little mote of space dust at that speed is like hitting an adult male elk at highway speeds on your Harley-Davidson. Intelligent alien species? OK, I am with you so far? Intelligent alien species who are for all practical purposes immortal so they can travel interstellar distances at a fraction of the speed of light just to anally probe impressionable Southerners for kicks and then spend 10,000 years taking the results of those anal probes back to their home planet? OK, still sounds perfectly reasonable to me...

i know they're out there.

im here to number 124

" Because the fact is, what blinds us to the presence of alien intelligence is linguistic and cultural bias operating on ourselves. The world which we perceive is a tiny fraction of the world which we can perceive, which is a tiny fraction of the perceivable world, you see. We operate on a very narrow slice based on cultural conventions. So the important thing, if synergizing progress is the notion to be maximized (and I think it's the notion to be maximized), is to try and locate the blind spot in the culture -- the place where the culture isn't looking, because it dare not -- because if it were to look there, its previous values would dissolve, you see. For Western Civilization that place is the psychedelic experience as it emerges out of nature. " *~ Terence Mckenna

" I think that people don't understand. As the Firesign Theater used to say, 'Everything you know is wrong.' But that is a very liberating understanding, because if everything you know is wrong, then all the problems you thought were insoluble can be framed differently. " *~ Terence Mckenna

of course theres life else were not only in are universe but also in other galaxies. the odds are in life's favor.

Of course it is possible that there is a planet some where that supports life.

We just haven't found it yet.

the truth is down here.

And as for Edgar Mitchell, I think the poor man is developing Alzheimers:(

A recent issue of "Popular Mechanics" had a cover story dealing with UFO's.

The cover photo showed two Air Force jets chasing two
very bright meteors with tails...

Except that they weren't meteors but military flares.

Turns out that some of these flares have their own jets too.

To somone who didn't know this would look odd.

Skiwolf,

I'm an astronomer. I can look up at night and see all kinds of objects and some of them move.

Fact is that we've been searching the heavens for years with radio telescopes...

Listening...

To date, we haven't heard any evidence that extraterrestrials exist in our part of the galaxy.

That says quite a lot....

Of course, there are all kinds of things that could be considered Unidentified Flying Objects....

Garage "Hot Air" Balloons for example or new Dirigibles private or military make.

Some folks even think regular jet planes look like UFO's when seen through a video camera so that their lights blink on and off.

I will believe when I see a craft land in front of me, and I can see it, touch it and it stays there for a while so that others see it too.

Until that happens, I won't believe.

kcfoxie...

I was 12 1/2 when Neil Armstrong set foot upon the moon. Now, I'm not certain about why some folks think we didn't go but quite possibly either they were not alive at that time or they are just plain nuts.

Of course, there is another possibility too....
Or as "Deep Throat" said...

"Follow the money".

There are apparently enough of these "new age" idiots around so that some cynical folks can make a buck off them by writing these idiot books.

Sure life can stop. In fact, for each us life will stop.
But if you take a Monsanto that starts making all the crops the same genetics and if you keep stuffing antibiotics into the world so that animals become anti-antibiotic bug manufacturing centers. And you stir in a little time for it all the ferment, then poof! all the crops get wiped by disease and all the humans get wiped out in a huge planet-wide die off.

Then if anybody makes it, there'll be a new set of dumbies to think the universe was made just for them so they could live longer than their life-span, with wings on in the clouds.
But they'll have different gods and different books.
Or they'll dig up our petrified bones and have us strung up next to the dinosaurs in their museums. Strange creatures were we.

This is not news.
Has anyone read the Bible.

If the universe is endless then its infinite. and the chance of life would have to multiplied by infinity. Not just that but the chance of a second earth just like this one with everting the same. even you sitting at home looking at your computer just like you are now. would have to be multiplied by infinite. and if the universe has a end then it is a object a thing. with a dot of life in it on just earth. but if the universe has a end what is past that end. just black space that goes on forever to infinity. if so the chance of a second universe just like this one with everthing the same. even you sitting at home looking at your computer just like you are now. would have to be mutiplyed by infinite. YOU JUST CANT STOP LIFE!

It's very simple: Aliens eat humans. That's why we only have the false assertions of liars.

How many have they eaten?

That Geico thing is really Perv-cam.

Alien? That? no that's just the money you could be saving with Geico.

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Mainly, the aliens know that the virus fragments, living on the worms that live in the bases of their eye-lashes, would pollute the whole earth and destroy all life.

Or maybe, as they are smart enough to see that we are all, from slime-mold to giraffes, just imbecilic differentiations of only one animal called DNA, where its whole job is to convert rocks and minerals into fertilizer and provide different looking life-forms to beat off the pesky volcanoes and asteroids, - they may think we're a waste of time.

Or maybe they brought the DNA during a long-ago flyby so they'd have something to eat when they next came around.

I see it like this: The Sun is a star with many planets surrounding it. There are then many stars (suns) in the universe. That equates to an incredibly vast number of planets. Surely there cannot be just one life form existing on one planet, amongst trillions of possible planets?

Time and Space is a very complex thing, and I believe that the existence of extraterrestrial life is based on those two things. Just because we, here on Earth, have not yet grasped the advanced conceptuality of Time and Space, doesn't mean other life forms haven't.

I think the main thing that puts the UFO/Alien phenomenon into perspective for me -- more than all the international sightings, more than cases such as mutilations and alien metal insertions, etc -- Is the historical connection.

A Current poster originally mentioned the evidence of historic records of UFO sightings. There are many; in famous european paintings, drawings and carvings on cave walls. What are the odds of all image of alines and UFOs looking the same and at a time in history when international communication was nothing like today?

Even if there is other life (which I do believe there is) it does not matter as they probably are not here (i dont buy the ufo craze) and even if we try to communicate...it wont work:

"Television and radio signals which were once thought to be capable of transmitting information over interstellar distances actually decompose into static within one or two light years according to research done by the SETI project. If any alien civilizations observe the solar system, they may not detect human civilization or its remnants on Earth."

Of course we are not alone..we have never been alone.The one's who fail to resonate at that FACT should possibly take a breath and realize the divine moment they are in...People have become soo detached that they dont even stop and remember that none of us..not even the scientist know s***!I have personally experienced out of this world type of stuff...and Many Many others have also..Its like when everyone was saying crop circles were a hoax and then they proved that "balls of light" were using harmonic vibration..then everyone just turned their back as if that wasn't extremely astonishing..We,as a specie need to get a grip on the Real reality...not this Boxed one which perpetuates separation...People ask well why dont we see them?..like this isn't 2009 and they haven't heard of dimensions,wavelength frequency or the Laws of vibration...if anyone would like to further go into this plz comment..

namaste

Oh, and that is one of the dumbest statues I have ever seen.

Boy, this brought out the kooks. How's this for an answer "WE DON"T KNOW". It works for God, the Universe, and pretty much everything else. Sounds more reasonable than clinging to an assumption based on too little evidence, aka "faith".

I belive its completely possible for other intelligent life to exist beyond our atmosphere.
A. you believe in God
B. do you think God cares so much about you that you are an original one of a kind?
So why could'nt there be Others?

(insert sarcasm)

What conspiracy theory should I believe? That we never landed on the moon or that aliens exist. Both statements are contrary. Hmmm...

I think that there is life on other planets but they haven't visited us... I mean that is the stupidest idea, why is it that Earth is so important. I believe that they are like us, is the regard that they wonder is there is life too because they, like us, probably don't have the technology to fly over here in a jiffy.

Let's think about this rationally for a second. There's a planet right next to us that has Ice. Millions of people have had extra terrestrial experiences for many years. The Mexican Government says that aliens exist and called for the US to stop with all the lies. There are references to Aliens in many past civilizations.

You've got to be kidding me if you think there is not more intelligent life than us. I think they will tell us the truth in the next few years.

If there are, then where are they?

Has anyone with a powerful enough telescope ever looked at the lunar module bases or flags or junk left by us on the moon? Why are there not any pictures online of that stuff taken through an earth based telescope?

If you know where they are link them here on this thread so that debate can be ended once and for all to see.

so ready to talk about this!!!!

If they're there, they are not coming. They'd be smart enough to know that every cubic micron of space available, above, below and on the surface has been utterly polluted with life-forms and all of them have "alien" on the menu.

We got teeth and they know it.

Besides, they see that there is simply no reason at all, that their life-forms should be accessing and destroying our world; as it would surely do.
They will do us the favor of staying away and not answering our stupid calls.

Any self-respecting alien would not be contacting a world of dumbies who would create a biological holocaust cause they didn't have the brains to see the obvious.

We're lucky, just asking is enough to know.

Show me the Aliens!

Genesis 3 (King James Version)

22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

24So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Make your own decision.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.bobfrissell.com/booknitbit.htm this speaks a lot about how things used to be...truthfully.

I was thinking how could we the public get the truth? I cant think of any legal avenues. Please respond if you have any ideas.

We simply can't be the only form of so called intelligence in the universe - I present the Bush administration as exhibit 1.

There are, by the latest count I could find, 7 followed by 22 zeros or, more accurately, 70 sextillion stars.

IF...............
ONE IN A BILLION stars supports life AND
ONE IN A BILLION of those life forms can figure out how to travel here
Then..........

I am not a mathematician but that tells me that there would still be 70000 life forms capable of getting here. All we would need is for one of them to pick our star out of the 70 sextillion stars to visit. It may or may not have happened yet but given enough time, I think it will.

Watch out everyone Will Smith might show up at your door with a red blinking mind eraser.

Our Galaxy , The Milky Way, is 140,000 light years across. ONE light year is exactly 9,460,730,472,580.8 km (about 10 Pm) or
about 5,878,630,000,000 international miles. The ego it would take to assume we are alone, just in our own galaxy, would ironically require a Christ-complex.

we just have to tell the space police that we found the space bucks

Aliens only observe us, and that's because our kind has this emotional tendency to kill other things.

I said this before in a previour alien post some time ago...

We had aliens living right in our little town here in the Northeast... The were short, darker skinned than the local population, and when the weather turned cold they went back to Mexico...

Of course man is not alone, we have dogs.

Here's my question: there seems to be a rift. Some who worked on these space missions believe there is a cover up, these are often those who worked "behind the scenes" whereas those who were in the limelight (for those who don't think we went there, the movie actors) who read and fed the lines they were given to the masses.

Scenario 1: We didn't go, it's all a lie. Why would these crackpots make these statements? Were the missions drug testing trials instead, and these people are the mental melt down left overs of experiments?

Scenario 2: We went. They say. They are exercising their rights to free speech, demanding the data be shown to prove their own innocence, and are being denied.

Either scenario is plausible; just look at the Bush Admin's stances on torture. As a nation we've covered up lots of things in our past. Including the affects of mind alternating substances on human subjects for the purpose of mind control.

maby the stars can guide us in the right direction to travel for new and intelligent life....we dont live on the only earth in the solar system, but nothing is certain. not even the human race surviveing for another 200 years.

Why title read like Tarzan talk?

common sense really.. these things are being covered up and have been for many years..

i just had my computer read the article to me in a computer voice - freaky!

i believe, i be leavin you turkeys when the aliens pick me up

To pjacobs51:

It makes sense that we are developing these technologies faster. As we gain mroe knowledge and research techniques, we are able to develop discoveries and inventions faster. Just look at history.

For thousands of years we were using rocks, then we started getting closer and building villages. Thus we started farming. Then we got bigger and cities formed, so we started using bronxe and such. Then cities were connecting. So we began using iron and catapults and such. We then began empires and international trade and technology went at an even faster pace.

It all has to do with humans being connected to each other more than in the past, and also the population reaching huge heights. The more people, the more minds, and the more connection, the bigger the ability to share minds and inventions. Simple really.

Oh, they're out there. But there's that damn "Prime Directive" and we are still a pre-warp civilization.

But you have to wonder . . . have they already been here. Humans have been here a long time . . . but just look at the technology from the past 50 years compared to the rest of human history.

Just in my lifetime it has gone from television, just 2 channels, to high speed digital fiber optic cable and the unimaginable amount of data flowing through it. Do you really think man came up with this kind of technology? Or do you think government scientist are reverse engineering "things" from Roswell?

i believe

I'm no rocket surgeon,... but the universe seems pretty danged huge - immeasurably immense. So how can we bet on coincidence and claim that "intelligent" life would exist at the same time, within the universe's vast timeline?!!? I think that it could happen,... but not during our epoch.

Why would the goverment have any reason to hide that information?