Malicious Program Targets Mac's say Experts
source: http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/04/22/first.mac.botnet/index.html
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But that may be changing somewhat, according to computer security researchers. It seems that as sleek Mac computers become more popular, they're also more sought-after targets for the authors of harmful programs.
"The bad guys generally go toward the biggest target, what will get them the biggest bang for their buck," said Kevin Haley, a director of security response at Symantec.
Until recently, the big target always was Microsoft Windows, and Apple computers were protected by "relative obscurity," he said.
But blogs are buzzing this week about what two Symantec researchers have called the first harmful computer program to strike specifically at Mac.
This Trojan horse program, dubbed the "iBotnet," has infected only a few thousand Mac machines, but it represents a step in the evolution of malicious computer software, Haley said.
The iBotnet is a sign that harmful programs are moving toward Mac, said Paul Henry, a forensics and security analyst at Lumension Security in Arizona.
"We all knew it was going to happen," he said. "It was just a matter of time, and, personally, I think we're going to see a lot more of it."
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gh8643
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I think the reason that there are fewer viruses for Macs is because hackers love attention and numbers. To few mac users to even make it worth their time.
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gh8643
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ClipsFC
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Does anybody know the numbers for PC vs Mac owners in the US?
- 3 years ago
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ClipsFC
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Benjib
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Macs still are 100% immune to viruses. And, there has never been a virus for Mac OS since OS X.
If you download a random application from an unknown source, and give it your admin password, it can do whatever it wants, even destroy your system, that is not what you call a virus.
And, incase it's not obvious, the fluff about Macs being a small percentage of the market and not a target is just that, fluff. Macs may be a small share of the market, but most people who make viruses or hack aren't in it for the money, they are in it for the challenge, and a company that touts invulnerability is a huge target.
- 3 years ago
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Benjib
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wirehedd
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You could always do like some and run Microsoft on one drive, OSX on another (hacked version for PC hardware, you can find it if you know where to look) and Ubuntu on another.
I do a lot of things with my 'pooter and having the convenience of all three makes me a lot happier than having to buy 3 machines.
Virtual machines are another way to get what you need.
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wirehedd
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Get_Cape
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wirehedd:
That just seems like it would be annoying. What if you wanted to work on different OS's simultaneously?
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Get_Cape
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wirehedd
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wirehedd:
easy, virtual machines all at once running in a single OS. each one with a different OS.
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wirehedd
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testafi
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Macs are waaaaay better than PCs. Virus vulnerability is just one of many reasons why. Macintosh cares more about the user than Microsoft does.
When or if viruses become more geared towards Macs, Macintosh will respond quickly because the user is inconvenienced.
Better programs, better technology, smarter company.
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testafi
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Get_Cape
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testafi:
And three times as expensive.
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Get_Cape
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wirehedd
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testafi:
technologically, macs are running on the same hardware now as PCs.
Some minor differences but not many and not anything of monumental difference. OSX is just a more stable environment due to it's Unix base.
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wirehedd
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J_Jammer [removed]
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So they were only safe because no one had them other than a few people here and there and retarded placements in movies.
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J_Jammer [removed]
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Flezzer
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My grandson just got a Mac laptop and he says it's the best computer he ever had.
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Flezzer
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ClipsFC
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Appears there are a lot of Mac users on Current. ?
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ClipsFC
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helloimcat
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mmm. I would love to be one of those people hunting for viruses. Would probably burn my eyes out... but you know.
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helloimcat
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lordsbassman
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Should of went with Ubuntu!
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lordsbassman
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roboho
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Don't worry, Justin Long has got it under control.
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roboho
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guitarist4life
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As long as you are smart about what you download, where you go, and what emails you open, all systems will be safe. The fact of the matter is that Mac's are safer because they are so uncommon...but I never have really understood why someone would waste their life making a computer virus...wtf do you gain from it??
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guitarist4life
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jennatar
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Earlier this year I got really nervous about nefarious 'keyloggers' -- I briefly monitored network activity using Little Snitch, but it was a little too intense for me. Now I'm just using MacScan.
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jennatar
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Get_Cape
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"Remember, hacking is more than just a crime. It's a survival trait."
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Get_Cape
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wirehedd
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Get_Cape:
Razor and Blade were hilarious. :)
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wirehedd
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CalgarC
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linux for me
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CalgarC
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Sam_the_Wizer
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CalgarC:
Word.
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Sam_the_Wizer
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aquamammal
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CalgarC:
word.
Ubuntu Jaunty is out soldiers.
XVX for life, R.A.S.H. 'til death.
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aquamammal
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CalgarC
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CalgarC:
hurrah!
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CalgarC
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kcfoxie
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CalgarC:
Fedora for the win! (Gotta support the local community derivative)
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kcfoxie
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el_chivo
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Here’s the reason to create viruses for Mac:
http://stashuk.ca/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/071002_missouri_macs.jpg
A lot of trendy students!
I’ve been using pc’s since for almost 18 years, and I only can remember one real virus infecting my PC. Was a backdoor that filled my HD with trash files. Protect your machine is easy, just use common sense.
I like Macs also, and I have worked in Macs, but I think they’re overrated in some ways. - 3 years ago
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el_chivo
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bishopobispo
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el_chivo:
Yeah Mizzou!
The University of Missouri has a huge journalism program and virtually all of the students in that department own Macs. Nonetheless, they still seem fare better than their PC owning brethren in terms computer safety.
... Go Tigers!
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bishopobispo
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brad62
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What? Nobody saw the writing on the wall?
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brad62
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EllenCowell
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brad62:
Not me, we just bought a Mac. Had no problems so far. Maybe this is not as widespread yet?
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EllenCowell
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ClipsFC
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One more, then I'll stop, promise! PC, Mac and Linux spoof.
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ClipsFC
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CalgarC
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ClipsFC:
bsd isnt bad and linux is awesome
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CalgarC
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EllenCowell
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ClipsFC:
Funny video
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EllenCowell
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Flezzer
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ClipsFC:
Good one too. I love these fake commercials.
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Flezzer
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ClipsFC
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I just couldn't resist.
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ClipsFC
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Flezzer
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ClipsFC:
LOL that is funny. Who made that? You?
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Flezzer
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ClipsFC
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ClipsFC:
Noo, I found that on Tube, it's funny
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ClipsFC
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Sam_the_Wizer
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Mac OS maybe more secure, but the easiest way to infect a computer is through a careless user. Mac people had better start watching what they download a little more carefully.
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Sam_the_Wizer
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kennymotown
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I hate hackers, what creeps.
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kennymotown
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ClipsFC
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kennymotown:
U and me both! I paid $260 to Geek Squad a month ago on a weekend to come to my house when I couldn't even get onto my computer to clean it. Grr. If I ever catch one of them geeks ...
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ClipsFC
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Sexirobot
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kennymotown:
funny thing is i know a couple of hackers who work for geek squad and other computer maintenance firms. But they are not engaged in true epic computer villainy.
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ClipsFC
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kennymotown:
heh, I need to find a local person that I can call for stuff like that. The 'squad' rapes you on fees. But on a weekend what can you do.
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ClipsFC
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Sexirobot
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kennymotown:
self maintenance is the best route.
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Sexirobot
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lordsbassman
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kennymotown:
I'm pretty good.. I usually run a live disk of a Linux OS like Ubuntu of Knoppix when I fix peoples computers.. its usually pretty easy!
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lordsbassman
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slimpunk
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Since Mac OS is built on UNIX, it will always be more secure and harder to crack than Windows. Plus, Apple is a lot quicker about posting updates to software than Microsoft.
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slimpunk
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artemis6
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Alright so what can be done about it ?
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artemis6
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Get_Cape
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artemis6:
You can curl up in a ball and cry.
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Get_Cape
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ClipsFC
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I always thought Mac's where to be so safe and even the ads they have with the 'PC' talk about how Mac's are immune to these viruses. Maybe some programmer finally hacked the operating system for Mac?
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ClipsFC
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Sexirobot
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ClipsFC:
there is little difficulty in writing malware for both PCs and Macs. the reason Macs are considered safer is because of market share. the villains of programming will rather write malware for PCs (constitute 95% of computers) than Macs(5%).
I the world of malware scale is key. - 3 years ago
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Sexirobot
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ClipsFC:
Macs are actually much more insecure than PCs, but they hadn't had the market share to justify making code and risking prison time. Now that apple is rising in the world, its becoming the target of attack.
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ddhboy
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ClipsFC:
dang it we just bought a Mac
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EllenCowell
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kcfoxie
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ClipsFC:
Apple holds about a 13% share. 5% back in the 90s, but as of 2007, it's well over 10% penetration in the market and growing. Also there aren't really any viruses, this is a botnet and it's mased as a trojan -- it is an executable that installs when one installs a pirated version of Apple's iWork 09 or some other app. This exact same security flaw (well its not a flaw, it's a trojan horse) was shown with pirated copies of Word 2004 back in the 2005 time frame. This is nothing new, and if you don't pirate software it's not a concern.
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kcfoxie
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lukewarmenthusiasm
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NOOOOOO! not my beautiful mac! i mean NO ONE BUY THEM they suck um yes! DON'T BUY ONE!
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lukewarmenthusiasm
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Eat_Disco
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Crap...
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Eat_Disco
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ClipsFC
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The malicious software was first reported in January. It didn't gain widespread attention until recently, when Mario Ballano Barcena and Alfredo Pesoli of Symantec, maker of the popular Norton antivirus products, detailed the software in a publication called "Virus Bulletin."
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