Florida pharmacy says it wrongly prepped horse meds before match
source: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/23/polo.pony.deaths/?iref=hpmostpop
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The deaths of the ponies, witnessed in full view by spectators Sunday in a dramatic scene where horses collapsed one after another, have shaken the prestigious polo tournament at the marquee International Polo Club Palm Beach in Wellington, Florida.
An internal investigation by Franck's Pharmacy in Ocala, Florida, "concluded that the strength of an ingredient in the medication was incorrect. We will cooperate fully with the authorities as they continue their investigations," the company said in a statement issued Thursday afternoon.
"We extend our most sincere condolences to the horses' owners, the Lechuza Polo team and the members of the United States Polo Association. We share their grief and sadness," the pharmacy's chief operations officer, Jennifer Beckett, said in the statement.
A memorial ceremony for the horses is scheduled for Thursday at the U.S. Open Polo Championship, where officials hope to resume play after matches were postponed by rain Wednesday. The memorial service will include a brief speech and a wreath-laying on the field.
The pharmacy said it prepared medication for the horses on orders from a veterinarian.
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Kallison
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According to the Veterinary Information Network, it was likely the selenium in the mix that did the deed. This vitamin concoction is given to help them recover faster after matches. It is given IV. If the selenium is higher than it is supposed to be, it will stop the heart.
Each polo team brings 40-60 horses for each match. Each horse is worth about $100K so you better believe they are well taken care of.
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Kallison
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Kallison
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My point in listing all of the things that horses can be on was that it is not uncommon for an entire team of horses to be on similar or the same "drugs" or supplements.
Polo ponies are expensive. Most cost more than the average American's car. My horse's daughter, a hunter/jumper, was sold for around $30,000. Some of the *breeding* fees for stallions (not for a horse, just for the sperm) is over $100,000K. These horses are well taken care of.
Now, in the gaited horse industry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_walker), where they jack up the feet and put chains on the legs, then put acid on the bottoms of the feet to get them to pick up their higher when they do their gait..... I think that this should be outlawed. When I worked as a horse vet, I had to work with these types of people. I would tell them that they needed to take the horse shoes off (in the walking horse world, they are about 5 inches tall platforms, like drag queen heels) when the horses got inflammation (laminitis) in their feet. They would *fight* me on it saying that the shoes were too expensive to remove. Of course, they would call me out a couple of days later to have me euthanize their horse because the shoes came off when the hoof totally sloughed/fell off. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laminitis)
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Kallison
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Kallison:
I totally agree with you! I have seen people treat their horses better than some of their children... but I also have seen the bad side to it, where people try to force their animals into doing things that are physically imposable by using inhumane methods.
And those are the ones that get publicity... So here's a beautiful rider who has done wonderful things with her Quarter Horse through humane training.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoW4cwf507g - 2 years ago
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KosterK7
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ras_menelik
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Again Pharmas used on 21 horses is a secret AFTER death and it's only for Non-humans?
HOW INHUMANE!
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ras_menelik
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gunbar
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ras_menelik:
What? Did you read what i wrote?! The only thing the pharmacy isn't saying yet is the particular substance that was the wrong amt. Hey i know what its like to lose not just a pet but a part of the family and unfortunately one must look at the fact that it's an investment, like it or not. They are a major part of our lives not like a dog or cat, the bond you have with them is a partnership - you both will do anything for the other! Believe me i wanted to hang someone for this but unfortunately it is and always will be a matter of human mistake. That's a componant that wll always be.
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gunbar
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ras_menelik
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ras_menelik:
-No not you was commenting on story.
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ras_menelik
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gunbar
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It was my understanding that this was a concoction of vitamins and minerals to help combat muscle fatigue. A normal and responsible thing to do for them considering the strenuous work they do. Unfortunately human error is always going to be a factor. To my knowledge, they were not drugging them to enhance their preformance. I'm just sick at thinking of those poor horses and what they all went through, i really don't think however that anyone had any intention of hurting them. Not to mention their worth, you can bet they were well taken care of.
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gunbar
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hedonic
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this just in ... elmer's glue stock is up 21 hundred %
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Kallison
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I am both a vet and a horse person, so that will color my responses. About 90% of performance horses have gastric ulcers. Horses, even though they LOVE competing (my horse jumps fences when she is by herself and will race anyone for the joy of it), get these due to stress, the high carbohydrate diet, plus other causes that are not well known. In addition, some of them have joint issues, and will be on NSAIDs like bute or banamine. These are drugs like ibuprofen. Would you argue with a runner that took Advil? However, horses (and many animals) don't tolerate these drugs well and get ulcers. So most are on something Omeprazole (acid pump blocker) or "Neighlox" (horse version of maylox, seriously, that is the name). Almost all horses are also given supplements out the yin yang. Many relate to B vitamins which affect hoof development. Since the horse runs on what is essentially (in us) our middle finger/toe nail, it is very important that the keratin grows well. Some horses have naturally good feet, others have to be supplemented. In Florida, horses get things called sand cracks, so most horses are not only on some sort of oral Vit B supplement, they also have goop painted on their hooves.
Then, in Florida, and any place with lots of sand, you have increased risk of something called sand colic. The sand is picked up when the horse is eating grass or hay and then collects and creates a blockage, like a hair ball, only made of sand, in the guts. Most horses in sandy areas are on some sort of supplement that helps bind this (though there is some controversy about how well this works).
In this case, it was a vitamin combo that did it.
Here is the text >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The medication the pharmacy mixed was a substitute for Biodyl, a vitamin-mineral mixture the FDA says isn't approved in the United States. The Lechuza Caracas polo team said a Florida veterinarian ordered the substitute, but did not name the vet."Only the horses treated with the compound became sick and died within four hours of treatment," the team said in a statement released Thursday. "The horses that were not treated remain healthy and normal."
According to Merial Limited, the manufacturer of Biodyl, the compound is made of vitamin B12, selenium, potassium and magnesium. When it's marketed as Biodyl, it's illegal in the U.S., according to the FDA.
But what if someone takes the ingredients and mixes up a similar compound? The FDA says that may be illegal.
"It is my impression that that would be manufacturing a new animal drug," said FDA spokeswoman Siobhan DeLancey.
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Kallison
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alejandro_seattle
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Kallison:
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Thanks for this. Very informative and much appreciated.
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alejandro_seattle
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Chheang
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Kallison:
Wow... that proves it!
back in the middle ages, people were riding unicorns. Horses couldn't have existed back then. No ma'am. No way.. they need these ulcer fixing drugs, hoof preservatives, etc...
Unicorns all the way!
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Chheang
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dakattack
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OMG- 21 heartbroken owners. It hurts to lose any pet much less an equine.
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dakattack
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vistapoint
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meds FAIL
(that seems to happen a lot actually) - 2 years ago
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vistapoint
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nkeg87
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This is the one aspect of my future career that scares me to death. People make mistakes. Doctors are not perfect and to expect them to be is insane. Medicine is not perfect either and that is a risk that patient and health care professional should both share. It is tragic, to say the least, every time a patient, human or not, is lost due to an error. I don't know what drug they were compounding but I hope stories like this serve as warnings. Every drug, chemotherapy, controlled, vitamins, herbals or anything else are dangerous and mistakes do happen.
(That all being said under the assumption this incident was not intentional.) - 2 years ago
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nkeg87
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nkeg87:
"everybody is human and all make mistakes"... "all vitamins and drugs are dangerous"
Sounds like you will be just a normal doctor. Injecting 30 children to death by your neglegence and say "lah-tee-dah" everybody's human..... TELL IT TO THE JUDGE.
Doctors think we OWE them, but they OWE US! We are not allowed to get medicines without their permission?????? This is slavery bullshit. They should write scripts for FREE. Screw the medical profession, they strangle humanity, and milk our health for MONEY.
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nkeg87:
Im not saying its ok to be negligent and if you dont think that medicine is dangerous, regardless of what is it then there is not point in continuing the discussion. Overdosing on even some vitamins is dangerous even if you dont think so. Im not going to give you a full out anatomy less but the human is a complex system that requires certain conditions to function.
Some patients do owe doctors. Not all drugs are necessary but when you dealing with certain disease that have debilitating symptoms, your doctor who can prescribe something to cure or help you function like a normal person will be your best friend. Doctors make mistakes but they're still in business because they save lives too.
People hate medicine because some drug companies or physicians are in the for the money. Some medical professionals genuinely care about the well being of their patients and want to help people but if you fail to see the risks associated with it then there's your problem. Holding doctors to a higher standard to be perfect all of the time is just simply ridiculous. Mistakes should not happen but when they do, don't forget no one and nothing is perfect. That's what consent forms are for. No one expects to make mistakes or kill people but if you dont see there is potential for that then I dont know what to tell you.
How many mistakes have you made in your lifetime? Your not a doctor so it doesn't matter, right? All mistakes have consequences but there is a difference between negligence, stupidity and mistakes. - 2 years ago
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nkeg87
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wayseeker
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Lawsuits and more lawsuits.
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wayseeker
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wayseeker
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Your being insensitive. They are beings as we are.
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alejandro_seattle
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UWAZell - You're either trying to be incendiary or you are completely oblivious to human nature.
I urge you to read a little bit about the relationship between humans and horses:
From The Chronicle:
"There’s a Bedouin saying that “Allah took a handful of southerly wind, blew His breath over it, and created the horse.” It is a beautiful – and accurate- description of a creature so agile, noble and soulful."http://www.horsewhisperer.com/horses_healing_humans_article.html
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alejandro_seattle
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UWAZell
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'A memorial ceremony for the horses is scheduled...' Seriously, they are not humans.
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UWAZell:
We are all animals, show some compasion please.
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pjacobs51
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UWAZell:
Yea, I will think about that this avro as I am eating a steak. I reserve compassion for humans, not animals, regardless of how you would like to classify human.
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UWAZell
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This vet was government approved. He'll probably move on to start vaccinating school children next.
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alejandro_seattle
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This is a terrible tragedy and so so sad. The owners and caretakers of these horses must be devastated.
I only hope that people start to understand HOW WRONG IT IS to drug these animals. It's one thing to keep them healthy, but when they are so commoditized that their well-being as living, breathing animals is compromised it's time to take an enormous step back.
Along with the Eight Belles tragedy (and many others), this disaster exposes the corruption and filth in the equestrian industry. I pray that a deep investigation is launched into this industry that leads to a complete review of drugging practices.
It must simply be made illegal to feed a horse anything that doesn't directly contribute to its OVERALL HEALTH and WELL-BEING.
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alejandro_seattle
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KimDelaney
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Riiiiiggghhht. It's "normal" to give all 21 horses the same medication all at the same time. "Normal" is probably the right word but "right" is not. Medication is designed to treat specific conditions and it seems highly unlikely that they all had the same condition at the same time. What is this? The horse plague. Conspiracy theory jab or no, I'd put my money on performance enhancing for this one.
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KimDelaney
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KimDelaney:
Medication can also be preventative, though. Animals are routinely treated to prevent worms or fleas; it could have been something as simple as that. And later in the original article, they refer to a dose of vitamins, so it could have been the equine equivalent of a multivitamin that got prepared incorrectly.
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KimDelaney:
yeah, the horses got pumped with 1,000,000 CC's of vitamin C.
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Chheang
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too many conspiracy theorists in here...
it's normal to give animals drugs, especially ones performing under super strenuous conditions. all kinds of animals are pumped with drugs, whether it's for a shinier coat, beefier meat, or any reason we can think of... we do it too - botox or bodybuilders anybody? we all know that not all drugs are illegal.
the mixtures were incorrect. someone mentioned publishing the concoctions to find what was wrong with the mixture. i think this is in order before anyone, including myself, speculates as to what in the mixture was actually wrong. was it the entire mixture? or just part?
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outtheinside
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This is so sad. It's not like hey I made mistake once and gave one horse the wrong medication. Twenty one times!!!!! Seriously these pharmacists are on drugs.
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pheexo
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pheexo:
umm...they probably didnt compound 21 different prescriptions at random times. They probably did it all at once and didnt catch the mistake. The pharmacists don't have to be on drugs to make mistakes.
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nkeg87
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hmm... why are these horses all being medicated? The medication name would be good. However, animals should not be subjected to drugs! I understand humans who CHOOSE to take drugs... leave the ponies alone!
BTW, how cool would it be to have all our athletes completely doped up?!?! We'd watch hockey matches with 100 goals a game, football matches with 100 goals a game, baseball w/ 1000 runs a game... man!
Don't give me that lame excuse that kids look up to these athletes and would follow them. Trust me, when kids see guys and girls dropping dead at 25 due to doping, they'll think twice before touching the stuff. Parents are responsible to teach their kids the consequences of doping... not Congress with their lame-waste-of-money hearings on baseball doping.
enough of my rant... leave animals alone! if you want to dope anything, have the jockey choose to dope him/herself. They can become ant size!
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Chheang
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Chheang:
I completely agree. Open the flood gates as far as human athletes are concerned, have two different versions of the same sport.
These animals were obviously all given performance enhancing drugs and died from the accident.The playing feild in all sports should be made level, either open season on whatever the participant can handle or nothing.
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banditalamode
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KosterK7
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I would like them to publish the drug that was given... that would tell me a lot about the situation.
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KosterK7
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pjacobs51
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Un-fair and square, horses should have the same drug screening as athletes. In other words, no drugs for horses, or any other animals involved in sporting events.
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pjacobs51
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Nettle
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They were poisoned. This is just a sad cover up.
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Nettle
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Jacques_of_Spades
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oops.
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Jacques_of_Spades
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eldamon
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Wow, there are mistakes and then there is serious gross misconduct - this is just to the other side of that.
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eldamon
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KimDelaney
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Yea. Like all 21 horses needed the same medication on the same day at the same time. Something is seriously amiss here. Is there any sport immune to doping?
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KimDelaney:
Good point.
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Kuklamania
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KimDelaney:
I mean you could consider our multivitamins, they are all the same and everyone takes them. I wouldnt jump to conclusions just because a company has an accident. Granted it's strange that theirs can kill them.
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Kuklamania
