Iraqi teen figures out 300-year-old math problem
source: http://www.redorbit.com/news/education/1696229/teen_figures_out_300yearold_math_problem/inde...
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Mohamed Altoumaimi, an Iraqi immigrant to Sweden, said undeterred, he presented the formula explaining the calculation of Bernoulli numbers to professors at Sweden's Uppsala University, The Local said Thursday.
"When I first presented it to my teachers, none of them believed that the formula I had written down really worked," Altoumaimi said.
"Right away they wanted to take a look at all my calculations and the documents where I show that the formula really works," the teen added regarding Uppsala professors' interest in his work.
Uppsala professors ultimately verified Altoumaimi's solution to the mathematics problem, which has served as a significant mathematical challenge for 300 years.
Bernoulli numbers are sequenced rational numbers connected to number theory.
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Ghazi_Kraishan
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BTW it is not just Algebra...Iraqis or old Sumerians invented Sexagesimal (base 60) numerical system and square root of 2. Sumer was the birthplace of writing, the wheel, agriculture, the arch, the plow, irrigation and many other things.
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Ghazi_Kraishan
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MoonLoon
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Ghazi_Kraishan:
Then how can you explain what has happened to this country?
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MoonLoon
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DigitalPenguin
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Some people are highly intelligent, much more so than everyone around them. However, I have a feeling that a lot of these types of stories are not entirely true.. Think about it, lets just pretend that this kids father for example was the actual person whom solved the problem.. People would be like 'ohh thats cool...he solved it, nice'. However, if a 16 year old solves it, everyones like "OMG that kids a genius and he's from the middle east...they are so much smarter than American kids...'..and it becomes a much, much bigger deal. Idk. Maybe I just wish I was that intelligent ;)
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DigitalPenguin
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shutter318
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The kid is probably saying "NEXT"
Hint Hint New Movie - Not A Problem:The Math Magician
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shutter318
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Elligirl
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Congratulations to him! Wow, only 16 years old!
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Elligirl
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mirror
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people need to remember the Iraqis ancients invented algebra, and as far as that goes it is also where the old testimate originated as catholic good 'ol GOD belief.
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mirror
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RickDemocracy
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"And how many geniuses died under Saddam?"
I'm not sure even Saddam managed to kill as many Iraqis as Bush in so little time.
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RickDemocracy
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Toni801
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Good for him :) young ones keep going :).
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Toni801
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telcod
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Mikeysfake1 said:
"For real? And how many geniuses died under Saddam?"
With those old weapons of mass destruction we gave him while he was shaking hands with George Bush senior? Yeah, well, Saddam was an amateur and a moron. You want to see real killing, look at the body count from our non single payer, "just say no to illness" health care system. 20,000 to 30,000 a year according to recent body counts. You go America.
And beer sales are down. Those dirty commie wine drinkers.
"oh where, or where could Asama have gone? oh where, oh where could he be?" (set to a popular children's tune)
Decline and fall baby. Remember, Christ was not a fiend of Rome.
Captain B
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telcod
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Mikeysfake1
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telcod:
Haha. you know we gave him weapons for a reason. Doesn't mean that he had to commit genocide against the Kurds but you knew that.
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Mikeysfake1
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wildoaklane0
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I've been puzzled by this math problem for years. It's wonderful that someone has solved it. Where's the proof? What isn't anyone showing the PROOF??
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wildoaklane0
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banditalamode
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Not surprising considering algebra was discovered first in that exact region, and they saved the remaining scrolls of Alexandria after the crusades and the dark ages. Of course, they're the savages though. Imagine what they could do if they had an infrastructure?
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banditalamode
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Mikeysfake1
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Math. fun.
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Mikeysfake1
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telcod
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Wonder how many geniuses we bombed out of existence in old Iraq before they could find another math solution or cure for cancer or whatever? Did this in Christ's name, did we? Yeah, I'm sure when Christ returns it will be in a tank or flying a fighter plane. Yeah, that was his style.
Religion, like math and politics should not be left in the hands of the de-evolving masses. Just not enough gray matter there to cope.
Think I'll turn on the Simpson reruns and shove a broom handle in my ear.
Captain B.
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telcod
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Mikeysfake1
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telcod:
For real? And how many geniuses died under Saddam?
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Mikeysfake1
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BustYourFace
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telcod:
Its funny how the person who was gonna cure cancer is always getting bombed or aborted or whatever the soap box may be for the moment.
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BustYourFace
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jammer854
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genius ......what the hell? hasnt everyone noticed that its the people who WORK HARD TILL THEIR ASSES BLEED THAT DO WELL! this kid may not be a genius but he sure as hell deserves this . if your an american parent . do your kids a favor and teach them this lesson "GIT er done" , stop procrastiinating , and last but not least , MATH WILL NOT KILL YOU SHAKESPEARE WILL!
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jammer854
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ocanada
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jammer854:
Its subjective. Shakespeare is hard to some, for me it was enjoyable. I never got advanced algebra. To each his own, we aren't all going to be good at the same things.
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ocanada
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BFAM_RVS
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genuis kinda shit...
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BFAM_RVS
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Dersex
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what a genius!!!!! Hands down and kness on ground to u mate...
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Dersex
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MoonLoon
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I need batteries for my caculator. D Cell- it is an old model.
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MoonLoon
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Incredulous
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great post retro_Syl...we need more of this kind of news. thanks for sharing it!
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Incredulous
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Ragan
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Well where are the American brains. We have no or at least very few intelligent people in America, that is why we are in such a mess. But if Bill Gates has his way he will import some brains from China and Asia to fill in for the vacuum created here. Look at our labs and pharmacies the orientals are the geniuses working with American partners. And who won this years spelling Bee? And from the comments above we do in fact lack the necessary tools to act like civil beings.
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Ragan
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Jason87
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Ragan:
Haven't you heard?
Some of us in America are busy outlawing science in the classroom because it poses a threat to the integrity and freedom of religion.
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Jason87
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zoboxrox
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oh and at SPANKY07:
its people like you that create giant problems for the rest of the world.
fundamentalism and religious indoctrination are the roots of terrorism, and right now my friend, you are practicing both.
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zoboxrox
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Kuklamania
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zoboxrox:
and its people like you who judge just because religion is involved. get off his nuts k thanks.
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Kuklamania
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zoboxrox
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zoboxrox:
did you read the original comment, or mine for that matter, or are you just trying to be controversial?
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zoboxrox
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keithponder
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zoboxrox:
boxrox
I agree 100% with you.
Bigotry is alive and well on this website.
This kid deserves praise and honor.
If he was White, race nor religion would be an issue.
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keithponder
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zoboxrox
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Iraqis and Persians are not the same thing... Iranians are Persians.
People from Iraq are a mix of multiple ethnic groups, which may include some offshoots from what was once Persia, but to say:
"Not surprising The Persians have always bin good math students"
Well, its just wrong for so many reasons.
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zoboxrox
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rodstradamus
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zoboxrox:
One reason that it is wrong is because it should be: "have always been," not "bin." Racial hyperbole and ignorant generalizations are even less tolerable when misspelled.
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rodstradamus
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Robroy1
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The Iraqui's invented Algebra so this is just keeping with thier knowledge. These people never were dumb and made many contributions to society. Congratulations to him.
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Robroy1
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RickDemocracy
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Robroy1:
Or he learnt how to use internet, hehe. ;-)
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RickDemocracy
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Sam_the_Wizer
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I thought he might have found an elementary proof for Fermat's Last Theorem when I read the caption. My heart skipped a beat, since I'm very close to completing that proof.
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Sam_the_Wizer
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spanky07 [removed]
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blaino
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spanky07:
wow.
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blaino
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keithponder
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spanky07:
spanky07
The kid knows more truth about Jesus now, than you'll ever know in your lifetime.
He lives likes, and looks like jesus alot more than you ever will.
Jesus probably believes in him way more than he'll ever believe in your beer drinking, and bacon eating ass too.
Jesus does not belong to you.
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keithponder
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bishopobispo
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spanky07:
I'm not gonna lie Keith, that was little harsh man.
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bishopobispo
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bishopobispo
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spanky07:
... but funny all the while.
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bishopobispo
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Joar
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spanky07:
WOAH! Keith Ponder! Chill out!
Don't take everything so seriously!Spanks was trolling anyway.
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Joar
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keithponder
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spanky07:
These comments sound funny when people make them ,but they're not.
People try to crack jokes on Muslims and Mexicans all of time. The truth of the matter is that the 3rd world is becoming the first world.
America has distorted the true meaning and message of Christianity.
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keithponder
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div
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spanky07:
you only sound uniformed here spanky. muslims do believe in jesus, but only as a prophet.
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spanky07:
Well lets not assume that he is a muslim neither...
But I am guessing thats exactly what SPANKY07 was assuming, but the reason he was assuming that is because he is uneducated, like one of the people here said, jesus is a prophet to them, and the most quoted prophet in the Qur'an (Why is it when i type in qur'an that it keeps telling me that its misspelled...)I bet spanky assumes that jesus was a white man with blue eyes as well...
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Prijedor
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chmk
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I smell inspiration for Sumdog II
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chmk
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guitar1100
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chmk:
now that was funny!
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guitar1100
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mistaj
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Check it. The report is probably greatly exaggerated.
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mistaj
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andyjoe
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Damn. I was planning to tackle this problem while riding home tonight on the bus. I can't believe this kid beat me to it. Well done, young man, well done.
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andyjoe
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ocanada
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You do remember this is why we invaded right? Bush found out that Algebra was founded in Iraq. lets face it numbers and Bush weren't the best of friends.
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ocanada
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Agent_Alpha
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ocanada:
His best friend was his bear Hop-along.
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Agent_Alpha
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guitar1100
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ocanada:
George Bush in a speech to the U.S. -
"... this is why I've placed Math in the Axis of Evil...
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guitar1100
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rgraphix
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Get him to work on the trans-warp beaming technology at once!
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rgraphix
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Snuff99
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rgraphix:
not before they find that damn dog.
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Snuff99
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rgraphix
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rgraphix:
I do feel kinda bad aboot that.
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rgraphix
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ocanada
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rgraphix:
Admiral Archer's prized beagle. I'm sure he'll re apear sometime.
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ocanada
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ianakaeeen
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rgraphix:
haha thread is win
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ianakaeeen
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KI4CLZ
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Mathematicians claim this proof has been discovered before and is well known in the field.
It may have been Charles Babbage who correctly simplified the computation of Bernoulli numbers first...
still digging...
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KI4CLZ
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john12787
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congrats to him. math isnt my forte and I have nooooo idea WHAT he did lol
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john12787
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23485768934756
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Not surprising The Persians have always bin good math students. But I don’t understand how the Pythagorean Theorem is used in the Bernoulli equation.
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retro_Syl
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23485768934756:
Persians? teach me.
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retro_Syl
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23485768934756:
in most cases the Persians = Iranians...not Iraqis.
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Snuff99
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keithponder
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23485768934756:
snuff99,
I knew that if I kept reading, I'd find somebody that would make an ignorant comment on this article, just because the kid is an Iraqi.
Eat your heart out. This is great news for Iraq and the rest of the world that's been brainwashed into to thinking negatively about that country.
Way to go kid !
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keithponder
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23485768934756:
keithponder,
snuff99 was merely pointing out that Iranians are the descendants of the Persians, not the Iraqis. But of course you have to be the one to make this a political issue and accuse someone of enforcing a negative stereotype about Iraqis. I doubt anyone other than yourself believes this was snuff99's intention. If you're looking for an ignorant comment, maybe you should start with your own.
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mr_tibbles
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retro_Syl
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23485768934756:
mr_tibbles,
these are all responses to 23485768934756's ignorant, false statement about "The Persians".
keithponder was aiming at 23485768934756 comment, not snuff99.
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retro_Syl
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mr_tibbles
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23485768934756:
Possibly, but since she began her comment with "snuff99," in the same manner that I began my comment with "keithponder," and you began yours with "mr_tibbles," I'm lead to believe that she was directly addressing snuff99. However, I'm glad to see that we are in agreement that 23485768934756's comment was ignorant and false.
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mr_tibbles
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23485768934756:
I love the fact that a post containing such words as "Pythagorean Theorem" and "Bernoulli equation"... can't even spell the word "been".
lol. thanks for the illiterate brilliance hot shot.
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BustYourFace
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Ghazi_Kraishan
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23485768934756:
Iraqis are Arabs not Persians..So he is an Arab
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Ghazi_Kraishan
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cztheday
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Are you serious, tbow? If so, could he have taken the solution from the 'Net and claimed it as his own? Or can you tell if he arrived at the solution from a different perspective or something?
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cztheday
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cztheday:
yes, i'm serious. I remember studying the problem and solution in my number theory class in college. it's impressive if he was able to solve it on his own, but not earth-shattering.
who knows how he arrived at his final proof...
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tbowman131
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tbowman131
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i don't mean to rain on his parade but the problem had already been solved...
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tbowman131:
yeah, it says it in the rest of the article; either way, he probably has mit profs gawking over him.
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retro_Syl
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tbowman131:
I knew it seemed to good to be true lol
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Toni801
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Man I wish I understood what the hell this was about.
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uroborus8
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uroborus8:
right there with ya bub.
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Snuff99
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uroborus8:
best comment ever!
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kellysontheroad
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BustYourFace
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uroborus8:
Ha ha! I'm with you too... except that i dont really care that i dont understand. :)
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BustYourFace
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pjacobs51
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Altoumaimi, the next Einstein?
That's quite an accomplishment for a 16 year old.
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