Tech | July 24, 2009 | 96 comments

Did you spend over $1000 on a computer? It’s probably a Mac

source: http://digidose.com/2009/07/24/did-you-spend-over-1000-on-a-computer-its-probably-a-mac/

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According to the NDP, in June over 91% of retail (not business) computers sold over $1000 were Macs. Yeah, almost all of Apple's Mac products are over a grand to begin with, and it's kind of tough to find a "well priced" PC under a grand, but it just shows what kind of market Apple is really in.
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96 comments // Did you spend over $1000 on a computer? It’s probably a Mac

  • bonesmattingly
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      bonesmattingly  

    • After you buy a PC, you have to buy all the add on shit just to keep it safe from virus', spend countless hours with tech support, and then...new software update's that cant be downloaded with the current software....PC's are a joke...the big boys only use Apple engineering

    • 3 years ago
  • wirehedd
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      wirehedd  
    • bonesmattingly:

      You are simply spouting the Mac sales promo stuff. Apple doesn't do their own engineering as they use the same parts as in regular PCs out there.

      If you have to spend hours with tech support then you obviously don't know enough about your system to use it.

      You may want to take that foot out of your mouth and stroll on over where the REAL big boys are. Should the facts ever be important to you that is.

      As far as I'm concerned, the people who sit there and spout PC hate are the ones who don't know enough about the machines to start with and when it comes down to it their opinions aren't worth a whole lot.

      Mac computers use the same parts as a PC and the difference is that now that they've put the pretty front end on the BSD linux/unix base that OSX uses (not engineered by Mac at all) it makes for a system that's easier to use. Simple as that.

      Personally, I don't need the simplicity as I have the knowledge to use a system like a PC without freaking out because I took the time to learn and understand what I am using. Therefore, I don't need to spend the extra money to compensate for my lack of knowledge and when I want to use the Mac OS for something I just load it up in the emulator on my PC and go from there.

      Big boys use PCs and we aren't afraid of our machines. We also tend to have more money in our pockets. :)

    • 3 years ago
  • maisry
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      maisry  
    • bonesmattingly:

      @wirehedd, "Personally, I don't need the simplicity as I have the knowledge to use a system like a PC without freaking out because I took the time to learn and understand what I am using. Therefore, I don't need to spend the extra money to compensate for my lack of knowledge and when I want to use the Mac OS for something I just load it up in the emulator on my PC and go from there."

      Many people think of computers as appliances. Heck, you can buy computers and toasters at the same store. It's not surprising that a lot of people just want something that works out of the box without them having to train themselves on it.

    • 3 years ago
  • Mikeysfake1
  • wirehedd
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      wirehedd  
    • bonesmattingly:

      I'm not looking to buy a toaster. I want a tool that will do the advanced and complicated work I want it to do.

      If I want a simple unit that will do a preset group of functions I'll buy another playstation.

    • 3 years ago
  • D_vondutch
  • LatteDa
  • bailey78
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      bailey78  

    • I have a PC and it does every thing I ask of it and has yet to break down. when this one does go bad I will buy another one .

    • 3 years ago
  • TimothyF
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      TimothyF  

    • Apple products are nice and lowering their price would greatly increase their customer base but it is very easy to find a pc computer that can match or better an apple product for a hell of a lot cheaper. Also for 1000 dollars how is it hard to find a well priced pc if you spent 1000 dollars you'd have some top of the line shit

    • 3 years ago
  • ozoneocean
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      ozoneocean  

    • Out of all the PCs I've ever bought only one cost bellow $1000, and that was a netbook I bought for my dad. Not one of them was a Mac. I don't have anything against Macs, it's just that all the software I have runs better on PCs, and I can get more power out of them for less cost. As for looks - those are important to me too, so I buy good looking machines with good looking peripherals. That's the thing about PCs: choice. Apple Pcs are a bundle, you don't get much choice, especially with looks.

    • 3 years ago
  • kitteneater
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      kitteneater  

    • Macs are all about the pre-installed-I-don't-wanna-mess-with-it mentality. That's okay for some people, but I'd rather learn the inner mechanics of my machine.

    • 3 years ago
  • wanamoka
  • kitteneater
  • Mikeysfake1
  • 4saken
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      4saken  

    • "According to the NDP, in June over 91% of retail (not business) computers sold over $1000 were Macs."

      It's obvious that the primary factor involved in this is that high performance PCs are almost always built by the owner using separate parts. The individual parts are not normally over 1 k, and would therefor not appear in this data. While Mac computers are sold exclusively pre-built. Making this data not actually very interesting.

      Really anyone who buys any pre-built machine is doing themselves a disservice(that includes Macs) when it comes to the performance to cost ratio. But it also depends on your needs.

    • 3 years ago
  • NewChannelMedia
  • 4saken
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      4saken  
    • 4saken:

      NewChannelMedia... I explained why this data is not unexpected, and that it is not actually that interested because it only has to do with pre-built machines. All it shows is that in general non-Mac buyers build their own machines, which is always the better choice when attempting to get the best performance for your buck.

    • 3 years ago
  • timlfrench
  • wirehedd
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      wirehedd  
    • 4saken:

      @tim - I disagree completely. Sounds like you've had horrid luck with PCs. I have an HP system that I bought with a minimal set of options and then I added what I wanted/needed and configured it to EXACTLY the specs I wanted and it has run like a top ever since. The only time there has been a need to "work" on it is when I have decided I want to put in something more powerful.

      The system I am using would spank the pants off anything made by Apple and I know it's cost me less than anything they could ever come close to.

      All that and the entire system AFTER all the upgrades and change outs is still less than $2500.

      Quad core cpu at 3ghz, 8GB RAM, 2x 1Tb HDD, dual GPU Video with 1Gb, built in TV Tuner/PVR, Dolby 7.1 audio, bluetooth 2.0, USB 2.0. Firewire and ESATA all in a system I started with as a prebuilt from HP. The system also has a fully functional remote control, bluetooth wireless mouse and KB and headset, wireless B/G/N and finally, a blueray recorder. It also has a 22" main display and a 32" secondary 1080p.

      Show me ONE Mac that can do all that reliably and consistently.

      As an aside, yes, I use Vista. I also use Ubuntu, Windows 7 and am running Leopard in an emulator just to compare, so to speak, apples to apples. :)

      I'm also not a MS fanboy as I have a Wii and a PS3 hooked up as well all in one system that is the data and entertainment centre in my home. No xbox here.:)

    • 3 years ago
  • 4saken
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      4saken  
    • 4saken:

      "Macs are for people who want a computer that works, not a DIY project, and a constant one at that."

      Macs are for people who are to lazy or lack the ability to build their own(or lack the knowledge to know that they should be). Just because Macs are pre-built with nice aesthetic value doesn't make them work any better. And if you have an issue with not knowing how to troubleshoot a Windows problem, just put OSX or your favorite OS on the PC machine.

      To many people have been convinced that you buy a Mac for the OS. While in reality, when you buy a Mac you are just buying overpriced hardware that could have been gotten for far less from any online computer store. And then had a Mac OS installed on it.

      When I built my machine it would have cost 2x with the Mac equivalent. And I've had to do next to nothing extra to it since. And I have no idea where you get this "constant DIY project", unless you are unable to not screw up your OS and then blame it on the fact that it is not a Mac brand machine.

    • 3 years ago
  • timlfrench
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      timlfrench  

    • Any one else notice that if you read all the posts, no one has gone from Mac to a PC, but there are a few folks who went the other way and say they wont go back. It seems that brand loyalty with windows only lasts until you use anything else.

    • 3 years ago
  • wirehedd
  • NewChannelMedia
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      NewChannelMedia  

    • I was a PC user for years, going all the way back to MS DOS 2.1 (showing my age now). And then, about 5 years ago, I found reason to switch to a Mac and I will NEVER go back to a Windows PC. It is not so much the hardware that is awful, but Windows as an operating system, and the regular bugs and flaws found in most Microsoft software, are things I am completely sick of having to pay for. I have used Vista PC's - they give the illusion of booting faster but the OS gets you to your desktop and then you wait for minutes before you can actually use the thing. Why does Windows continue to be so clunky? Compared to the way Macs work, Windows is a POS. You get what you pay for. Sure you can spend less than $1000 on a Windows PC and if all you are going to use it for is some web surfing and email, that's great. But if you need a computer with some real guts to it, some raw processing power and REAL speed (not that illusional speed that MS tries to pass off as a big improvement), then there really is no other choice - it has to be a Mac. And Macs run XP better than Windows PC's.

      OK, one last thing - it took me a while to get over the denial that my last Windows PC could be fully replaced by a Mac. But once I accepted that, and made the move, I just wished I had done it years earlier.

      OK, one last last thing - Macs are beautifully built - aluminum casing, awesome design, amazing performance, rather than the crappy plastic cases, and flimsy screens, and out of alignment ports on most Windows PC's. Yeah, I paid more than $1000 - a lot more, and I will do so again.

    • 3 years ago
  • arkansasrednck
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      arkansasrednck  
    • NewChannelMedia:

      Actually I stated in a reply that I used to use a mac when they were using powerPC chips. There was an advantage to it; but once I needed tools, updates, etc.. It just became to costly to continue using that platform. What I do is not out of the ordinary but it certainly isn't a web app only type computing that I do. If I need a piece of software to perform a function, there is far more development in the GPL realms of Linux and Windows then there is for DarwinX86. I've used Solaris, HPUX, VAX/VMS, BSD (macOS is based off this), and I always come back to Windows becuase its simply easier to integrate various breeds of technology together without a lot of fuss.

    • 3 years ago
  • wirehedd
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      wirehedd  
    • NewChannelMedia:

      I can relate to that Arkansas. I can remember the days of trying to get the syntax correct on my Timex Sinclair.

      I had a few dinosaur systems of my own starting way back with a "build your own Heath Kit System 100" so I can seriously relate. :)

      CP/M anyone? :)

    • 3 years ago
  • wanamoka
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      wanamoka  
    • NewChannelMedia:

      Yea,
      And the Macs have that magnetic charging cord, that comes off easily and won't tear out the motherboard if you trip over it.
      That right there is worth at least 200 bucks if you have to get a pc connection resoldered. More if you have to replace the board.

    • 3 years ago
  • timlfrench
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      timlfrench  

    • I'm a Mac and I just blew $1800 on a pc laptop and a copy of Winblows Shitsta UnUltimate and I got to spend all day installing drivers! YAY!

      With Vista it's all plug and play, plug in your computer and play with it in the bathtub, you'll get the best experience that way.

    • 3 years ago
  • Tankguy
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      Tankguy  

    • I'm a pc. I will probably always be a pc. But i will admit that if you are into photo and video editing then MACs loaded with AcidPro are hands down badass. But i still cant understand why anyone would spend over $1000 on a MAC laptop. PC laptops can be expensive too if you're looking to go all fancy. But I know that the BestBuy in my town sells their cheapest MAC laptop for about $800. I think most people are into Apple products to be trendy and hip.

    • 3 years ago
  • NewChannelMedia
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      NewChannelMedia  
    • Tankguy:

      Trendy and hip might be a part of the motivation to "go Mac", but for those who have migrated (upgraded) from a Windows PC to a Mac, the ease of use, ease of updating software, ease of wireless or wired network connectivity, ease of installing new hardware, ease of doing so many things, in a smooth, slick, reliable, and fast way, is such an amazing transition from the crap a Windows user has to deal with, that regressing to a Windows machine is a truly depressing prospect.

    • 3 years ago
  • AmberT
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      AmberT  

    • You get what you pay for. Pay low get low quality. I am a web designer/usability designer, and Mac is all about the end user. Steve Jobs recognized Bill Gates was a programmer and thought like one. Bill made everything overly complicated and hidden. Like a bad website from the 90's. Steve Jobs made it usable for every one, and simple. The learning curve is much lower and more work gets done. I use both and the PC I use is a piece of Junk, that always needs some special treatment. I like my 17" PowerMac, I wrote off my taxes, and it is a real trooper, that is stable.

    • 3 years ago
  • tribe2
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      tribe2  
    • AmberT:

      I'm a graphic designer and have been using a custom built PC running XP pro 64x for the past 4 years (same one). I paid just under $1000 for it and got specs that still kick ass by todays standards. Some people change thier own oil and some go to Jiffy Lube, some people clean thier own house some hire a maid . . .

    • 3 years ago
  • Ish05
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      Ish05  
    • AmberT:

      fucking right on AmberT. Macs take a shit on crappy PCs. Get your Prada bag I'll put on my $300 gucci flip flopps. You and I are going for some high grade coffee at Starbucks and laugh at the peasants driving their crappy cars. Better yet lets drive over puddles and splash the losers at the bus stop. We are going to have such a great time.

    • 3 years ago
  • tribe2
  • ozoneocean
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      ozoneocean  
    • AmberT:

      If you PC is so crappy, buy a better one. You're right in that you get what you pay for, but don't blame the entire computing industry for your own cost-cutting.

    • 3 years ago
  • ReganMann
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      ReganMann  
    • AmberT:

      *facepalms*

      I bet other MAC fans read her post and cant understand why us non-MAC users think less highly of their intelligence...

      Also, I am a "(Dell+((WinXP+Ubuntu)/Win7))=PC" to be more specific... not just a Personal Computer because MACs fall under the category of PC too.

    • 3 years ago
  • sdwrage
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      sdwrage  

    • Look past the marketing, peel back the face of each one and analyze its inner workings. Forget for a moment that you are using either a Mac or a PC and just realize that it is what it is... a computer. Look at the hardware of each one and compare. Then compare the prices of each computer... are you paying for the hardware? or are you paying for the marketing and the sleek OS?

      Personally I love how the Mac feels but you can achieve similar results on either Windows or Linux if you have the time and know how. Fanboys aside, it really comes down to what its worth to you.

    • 3 years ago
  • tribe2
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      tribe2  

    • It's really simple and has already been touched upon in the comments. Apple Computers are for people that don't lift the hood and tweak things, they just want a cool case and a easy to use interface. The Personal Computer can be anything you want to make it into but you gotta have the moxie to pop that thing open and get your hands dirty.

    • 3 years ago
  • maisry
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      maisry  
    • tribe2:

      Exactly. Mac Book was ready to use out of the box. Picked up my wireless without me lifting a finger - OK I did have to enter the WEP or WAP key. I was on the Internet before I got my mouse plugged in!

    • 3 years ago
  • Gazeroni
  • Ish05
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      Ish05  

    • My friends have Macs and they are able to use them productively, but they really don't know much about computers. I think knowledgeable people will go with Windows or Linux because they know they can get a better performing machine for a fraction of the price. PCs being prone to viruses and system crashes really amounts to users not knowing what the hell they are doing. Those people should get Macs. You know the old saying,"Never give a sucker an even break".

    • 3 years ago
  • tribe2
  • wanamoka
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      wanamoka  
    • Ish05:

      NOooo,
      PC's don't crash because of the operator. PC's crash because they can't handle whatever program was installed.

      I get more productivity from my Mac because I don't spend all my time trying to hack the PC to make it do what I want.

    • 3 years ago
  • kitteneater
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      kitteneater  
    • Ish05:

      That's a memory issue, wanamoka. You comp might crash or go slow because you don't have enough space. Just update your memory...It happens with mac too. Just wait.

    • 3 years ago
  • Gazeroni
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      Gazeroni  

    • Absolutely the OS's leave a lot to be desired -

      Is it worse than leopard? Obviously - but Leopard has huuuuuge issues too. One of Leopards update caused e to fry half my ram - that is coming straight from their factory. I'm not making it up - they said and I quote "Just don't do the updates." They all have their little problems here or there.

    • 3 years ago
  • iamkalaniprince
  • asherp
  • zHellas
  • ellatalk
  • Ish05
  • AmberT
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      AmberT  
    • ellatalk:

      Just like healthy food is bad for your body, and high fat cheap fast food is the only food that's good for your health. You get what you pay for. Mac make higher end products, usability, software & all included. Windows needs a serious usability re-design, the 90's are over, and test have shown what works for end users.

    • 3 years ago
  • wirehedd
  • timlfrench
  • tlubey
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      tlubey  

    • With Macs, you end up paying most of the total price on the operating system. The parts in a Mac add up to only a small part of the total cost. I was once looking in a catalogue I got from MicroCenter after buying something there (they always give them out) and in the catalogue there was a MacBook for almost $1,300. Directly under it there is a laptop with Windows that had 2x better parts (just average parts in general, but still 2x better) for $679.

      If the OS is really worth that much to you, then go ahead and get a Mac.

    • 3 years ago
  • timlfrench
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      timlfrench  
    • tlubey:

      @ tlubey

      The computer IS the OS.
      The OS IS the computer.

      I'd rather have an old clamshell iBook running OS X10.4 than the brand HP Pavilion Vista machine I just bought for work.

      And as nice as the HP is, ever if it ran OS X, it feels flimsy in comparison to any Mac. I don't think I could carry it around as safely as my MacBook.

    • 3 years ago
  • Gazeroni
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      Gazeroni  

    • The Mac vs PC debate has gone on for long enough!

      Why do people pay 300-2000 dollars more for a mac and then bash PCs?? It's like comparing a Corolla to a Ferrari Enzo. OF COURSE ONE IS BETTER! If you spend 2-3 grand on a PC I guarantee it will have more power, and less limitations than any mac out there. If you get a mac because you like the OS or it suits your lifestyle - fine. I am a TV editor and I can say with confidence - at work - I will always pull for a mac. At home - you will NEVER find one. I like my computers at home to be expandable and...well....GOOD!

    • 3 years ago
  • Dillos
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      Dillos  

    • MAcs are so f*cking expensive. Good brands, but seriously it's too pricey. HP have good qualities, but MAC is more like for multimedia in my opinion. They are expensive computers, and they only thing I actually like from MAC are the iPods.

    • 3 years ago
  • arkansasrednck
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      arkansasrednck  

    • On the topic of win7 I will give you my overall opinion.
      Is it faster then vista....yes
      Is it's technology based on vista...yes (so your vista drivers work fine on it)
      Is the interface GROOVY? .. Yes, its slick, not overdone, gentle transitions
      Is the "shell" better... overall I'd say yes, some of the annoying things out of vista were removed, you'll be very pleased with it.
      Is it faster then XP.... Nope, there is a good reason why XP was put on netbooks sporting weaker procs. Vista and its younger sibling Win7 both eat processor power for all that nifty window changing. if you are interested in business computing, movie editing, picture editing.. XP on a modern system flies.

    • 3 years ago
  • seanalyn
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      seanalyn  

    • I got my 13inch Macbook earlier this year for under $1000 refurbished from Apple ;)

      In my apartment we have both PCs and Macs and because of my work I generally use Macs, but for certain people I can see the advantage of PCs. Honestly Im thinking of getting my mom a Mac for Christmas just because she is not even remotely computer savvy and I think she would find the Mac operating system much easier to work with and she wouldnt have to worry about as many viruses or problems that her PCs have had (true if she was better with computers then she wouldnt have these problems heh).

      Honestly Im just tired of this whole Mac vs PC thing....its like a petty high school clique fight. Each are good for their different reasons so who cares?

    • 3 years ago
  • arkansasrednck
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      arkansasrednck  
    • seanalyn:

      I may have been misleading with my post, there is a season for everything. macOS Linux Windows... My only regret is that for Linux and Windows your price options are vast; for McOS you are stuck pretty much with the same hardware sold cheaper for Linux and Windows; and paying the cost for the overpriced OS. Its a shame that people who feel that Macintosh is there only option for computing (and there's nothing wrong with that, i can only use windows) there aren't better price margins. BTW geeks.com and searches on techbargins both offer refurbs on MAC devices. So I agree with you, don't buy retail go refurb!

    • 3 years ago
  • ReganMann
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      ReganMann  

    • When Windows 7 comes out it will be come extremely clear who is dominating the PC market (A PC is still a MAC btw).

      It would be retarded to buy a computer before the manufacturers have Win7! The free upgrade is just going to be a hassle.

      Netbooks with Win7 are going to be sold out!

    • 3 years ago
  • Sam_the_Wizer
  • MarshallsCarousel
  • timlfrench
  • ReganMann
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      ReganMann  
    • ReganMann:

      french i have already run Win7 on a netbooka nd it works fine.

      As for loading a Linux OS on a netbook. I like connecting to wi-fi in a few clicks and being about to install any printer drivers I want in under a minute...

    • 3 years ago
  • Sam_the_Wizer
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      Sam_the_Wizer  
    • ReganMann:

      "As for loading a Linux OS on a netbook. I like connecting to wi-fi in a few clicks and being about to install any printer drivers I want in under a minute..."

      As long as the printer is an HP (don't know why you'd use any other brand) you should be able to do both easily in Ubuntu (which I believe is the base for Moblin as well).

    • 3 years ago
  • arkansasrednck
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      arkansasrednck  

    • Since Apple has been using the intel chipset for its BSD based OS with a glossy shiney window manager; some of us have known its possible for anyone to build thier own MAC using the media purchased from apple ;) Want to save yourself money and run MAXOS? Find an eMachines and load darwin on it. TADA! MAC
      I wish I could tell ya'll how to do it on here but I think my comment would be removed. But these hints should give ya a start.

      Good PC's are inexpensive; netbooks feature/function/price point/battery life; are nearly a no-brainer if considering getting a laptop from apple. If you want a shinery interface, well linux has MAKOS beat. Apple sells you on being hip; the shably dressed 20 something in their a.d.d. who can afford an overpriced piece of electronics, dood thats hip.

    • 3 years ago
  • crob80227
  • arkansasrednck
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      arkansasrednck  
    • arkansasrednck:

      I used to own a mac when they used powerPC chips, back then there was an advantage in compute power. But over time , I needed tools, and everytool you want for MAC cost $$$.. I guess apple's business model is, well you blew this much on our hardware, whats a little bit more to pay to actually do something productive with it? With Winders i can get all the free software I can eat and not worry about library dependency hell. So when you boil it down, it goes like this. They less you need to do with it, the more you'll pay for it. The more you need to do with it, the cheaper it becomes. Its one of the very few situations where the smart consumer wins.

    • 3 years ago
  • Janice_Marie
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      Janice_Marie  

    • my mac is my best friend. .
      It has yet to do me wrong, I can only compare to XP though, even so, I love it a whole lot more than my PC. Also, if you want to buy a good PC that is going to last, it's most likely going to be a grand or close to it.

    • 3 years ago
  • flyingkick
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      flyingkick  

    • When you buy a Mac, you're basically just paying extra for the aesthetic design and the brand image.
      Don't get me wrong, Macs are good computers, you can just do the same thing for much cheaper with a PC- if you know what you're doing.

    • 3 years ago
  • wmorrison13
  • MarshallsCarousel
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      MarshallsCarousel  
    • flyingkick:

      I wish I could agree, but I can't.

      Of course macs are tons better aesthetically, but then realize you aren't spending a crapload on protection, photo software, music recording software (that does more than Audacity), and other countless programs that come free with mac. Not to mention being a photographer and having Lightroom 2 built into the environment of OSX...it's a huge difference.

      It was crazy giving up that 1300, but it was worth it.

    • 3 years ago
  • timlfrench
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      timlfrench  
    • flyingkick:

      Sure, just like when you buy a BMW instead of comparable Daiwoo your just wasting your money,. Right?

      It's called quality, support and usability. That's what you pay for with a Mac. You buy cheap, you get cheap.

    • 3 years ago
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • flyingkick:

      That's a big IF. You have to be a hardware guru to "know what you're doing". I don't want to have to spend two days of research for compatible drivers and workarounds every time I add a new component or software, and that's exactly what I've been having to do.

    • 3 years ago
  • 4saken
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      4saken  
    • flyingkick:

      C'mon now Jon, you know that is a big exaggeration. It might take 2 days of researching to find the parts you want for a whole new machine, but 2 days of research just for installing software? Why would you need a "hardware guru" for installing software? And it takes 2 days to go to the manufacturer's site to pick up the needed drivers for a new component?

      And timlfrench, should I find it strange to see you here making blatant lies? No, not really. Mac's give better quality? That is a joke. You can build a PC with all the same hardware as a Mac brand machine for less. And if you payed the same amount for the PC you would get better quality and more reliable parts than the Mac. And what a preposterous and ignorant analogy.

    • 3 years ago
  • vistapoint
  • RudyRudell
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      RudyRudell  

    • i have XP and OSX running on my mac, and I know my mac purchased 3 years ago is more then comparable to the average PC now.
      That said if I were purchasing now it would be hard to avoid the PC, comparable PC's to the standard Mac laptop are available at half the cost now.
      It does beg the question, with most of the parts being manufacted by the same various companies (Pentium Processors, and my Mac has a ATI RadionX1600 vid card... THE EXACT SAME as my PC!) how the fuck does apple get away with charging so much more? Name brand computing?

    • 3 years ago
  • roguekitty
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      roguekitty  

    • I'm a PC but.. If I'm going to spend that much on a computer I would go Mac.. unless I buy a new one in October with Windows 7 on it

    • 3 years ago
  • iamkalaniprince
  • Augusten
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      Augusten  

    • I'm not surprised about those numbers.
      I don't not like Macs, but I definitely prefer my PC, and I don't mind Vista at all. And actually, the laptop I'm on now was a little over two grand.
      Eat that, Mac. My laptop was much more expensive~

    • 3 years ago
  • maisry
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      maisry  

    • Yep and it was totally worth it! When I had to replace my laptop and couldn't get XP on a new one, I learned that it's easier to load the WinXP OS on a Mac then it is to load it onto a WinVista PC!! Well, I never bothered putting XP on my Mac. Leopard is a trouble-free, no-geek-needed operating system.

    • 3 years ago
  • ReganMann
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      ReganMann  
    • maisry:

      It might just be easier to load XP than Vista because Vista has 4 Gigs MORE to install... Stop using rhetoric so promote MACs.
      Also Microsoft doesn't make computer hardware while Apple makes computers built for their OS. Of course it is going to be more solid and load faster.

    • 3 years ago
  • wirehedd
    • 0
      wirehedd  
    • maisry:

      since when is Apple Intel or Acer or Asus or any other hardware manufacturer whose components are used to produce Macs? Mac computers use the EXACT same hardware as PCs and have for a couple of years now. They don't produce their own anymore and haven't for a while now.

    • 3 years ago
  • timlfrench
  • 4saken
    • 0
      4saken  
    • maisry:

      "When I had to replace my laptop and couldn't get XP on a new one, I learned that it's easier to load the WinXP OS on a Mac then it is to load it onto a WinVista PC!!"

      A machine isn't "WinVista" until it has Vista on it. Take any blank HD and you can put either a Mac OS or a Windows OS on it with the same ease.

      When you buy a Mac you are paying for overprices hardware that you could have just bought separately from newegg for less and then bought a standalone Mac OS if that is the OS you like.

    • 3 years ago
  • maisry
    • 0
      maisry  
    • maisry:

      4saken, a machine IS WinVista when you go to the store and that's all they sell. I used to tinker with my cars AND my PCs, but as I got older, I decided buying new, with a good warranty, was much more appealing. Now, I like my computers the way I like my cars - ready to roll. So, I go into a retailer looking for a stock car or computer with the features I want. I don't go looking for a chassis that I have to build up to my specs. Just because you drive a car doesn't mean that you have to know how to build one. Some people LIKE to have a hobby building, upgrading and souping up; some people don't.

    • 3 years ago
  • 4saken
    • 0
      4saken  
    • maisry:

      "a machine IS WinVista when you go to the store and that's all they sell."

      That is because it has Windows Vista installed on it already. You don't have to buy a PC with an OS pre-installed, nor do you have to buy one from a store that only sells ones with a pre-installed OS. If you buy a blank hard drive, and insert it into a PC, you can put any OS you want on it. So like I said the machine itself is not designed for any certain OS.

      "I used to tinker with my cars AND my PCs, but as I got older, I decided buying new, with a good warranty, was much more appealing. Now, I like my computers the way I like my cars - ready to roll."

      That is who Macs appeal to, those who buy pre-built machines(and while they are at it buying overpriced hardware for weaker performance). And that is exactly what this NPD data shows.

      "So, I go into a retailer looking for a stock car or computer with the features I want. I don't go looking for a chassis that I have to build up to my specs."

      And that's perfectly fine, just don't expect better quality, better performance or a better price when you are to lazy or lack the desire to do a little research on the parts needed to put your own together.

      So you're claiming it's worth while to buy a Mac merely because you personally want your computers to come pre-built. And that therefor others should also value the fact that it is pre-built over better quality/performance hardware for the price.

    • 3 years ago
  • maisry
    • 0
      maisry  
    • maisry:

      4saken said:
      "So you're claiming it's worth while to buy a Mac merely because you personally want your computers to come pre-built."

      No. The laptop that would run XP won my
      purchase. It happened to be a MacBook.

      "And that therefor others should also value the fact that it is pre-built over better quality/performance hardware for the price."

      No. This is about MY preference. And I
      made no comparisons about hardware.

      "And that's perfectly fine, just don't expect better quality, better performance or a better price when you are to lazy or lack the desire to do a little research on the parts needed to put your own together."

      I GOT better performance; I didn't say
      that I expected better price; and I don't
      appreciate being called lazy simply
      because I value my time differently than
      you value yours.

    • 3 years ago
  • 4saken
    • 0
      4saken  
    • maisry:

      "I GOT better performance; I didn't say
      that I expected better price;"

      You can almost always get "better performance" but it comes at a price, so the only thing that matters is the performance to price ratio.

      "and I don't
      appreciate being called lazy simply
      because I value my time differently than
      you value yours."

      Actually I didn't call you lazy, if you re-read what I typed notice there is an "or" directly after, including another possibility. It's just that many people who require pre-built machine are just being lazy.

      You say it's totally worth it, but neglect to mention the fact that you require a pre-built machine, automatically putting the good performance:price ratio PCs out of your ability.

    • 3 years ago
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