New Chevy Volt to get 230 MPG city

GM is a sinking ship. All of the progressive minds went over to progressive car companies a looong time ago.

---------------"Sure, the car has to run off of electricity which is produced by a plant that emits tons (literally) of CO2 emissions, but it's a step forward."-------------

FORWARD???????? A few more steps forward like that and we'll have backed over the cliff.

GM has promised this car for years------still no car.

I really question the engineering quaification of a company that measures electricity in gallons. That is just too plain stupid for words.

Not to mention that there is no assurance that there will even BE a GM next year, let alone a Volt.

Using GMs logic---the VW Passat bifuel will get 260 miles per gallon, and costs around $20,000.

http://green.autoblog.com/2008/02/28/geneva-08-preview-volkswagen-passat-variant...

http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=197527#a_chassis

Golf Plus comes in bi fuel model and is on sale now.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/109061219908/vw-reveals-golf-plus-bifuel--lpg-or-pet...

Clean Diesel offers superior performance with economy equal to or greater than hybrids with no batteries. VW has four Clean Diesel models and plans to offer Jetta with factory installed natural gas bifuel early next year. With a comparative octane of 120, natural gas can make full use of the performance and high efficiency of diesel engines. As a gas fuel, natural gas will make diesel engines easy to start and run in cold conditions.

http://tdi.vw.com/clean-diesel-vehicles/?sem=208416580;

Factory installed diesel/natural gas vehicles will have none of the problems associated with liquid diesel only---and both liquid diesel and natural gas can use a mix of bio source fuels in any proportion with no loss of perfomance or economy up to and including 100% bio. With no modification needed.

Great. Now we've got a car aimed at lowering emissions and reducing the carbon footprint. Where does all the extra electricity come from that will be needed to recharge these cars? Oh that's right, coal and oil power plants. Gee, what a great concept. Is the point to reduce energy consumption, or shift the foces from emissions to power plant productivity?

Only down hill, three long sails hoisted and with a stout wind pushing, then maayybbee.

what a great time to release this car?

Prijedor I doubt if they pump up the price of this car so people can't buy it. Flat Screen tvs were just as ridiculously priced when they were first introduced to the market back in the late 1990's

The price of the car is probably pumped up so they can see what people will pay for it eventually and recoup as much of what they can on their initial investment which is very expensive.

it is a shitty car. GM is a shitty company for moving to mexico and overseas so they didnt have to pay competitive wages or insurance or retirement.(REMEMBER NAFTA ?) now "boo hoo" they make shitty cars and nobody wants em.CASH FOR CLUNKERS ACTUALLY HURTS POOR PEOPLE !!!YOU ONLY HELP RICH PEOPLE BY DESTROYING POOR PEOPLES RESOURSES..... stupid should be painfull ; so people know when they have IT !!!!!

A boycott of GM is not smart. Neither is hoping for it's demise. It is a big part of our economy and many people make a living off of them. We all have a stake in the future and the public is now basically shareholders. As so we need to demand quality. So what if it uses electricity it's a step forward. It will take them a while to make the products that we are all demanding from this company. All we can do is move forwards and once again put American companies at the forefront again and be prosperous again. The public transportation problem in the us now is because of our local governments not gm so aim your criticisms in a constructive way. We need to focus on solutions not problems to get ahead.

this will, go over like a lead balloon ! chevy will be broke again in a year.!

Everytime I see this ad I wonder.. only 23MPG.. I can ride a Bike and get better MPG.. with a buritto.. the ad agency definately needed to think that through.maybe putting the plug inside a "ZERO"

Too bad the Nissan Leaf is said to get 367 MPG.

Telsa Motors is the really interesting American car company to follow.

The Volt to me is a small step in the right direction but, well over priced at $40,000.

So it uses a battery eh? OH good, so they have to still mine the nickel and copper for the power.

I heard that open cast mining is AWSOOOMMEEE for the environment. **rolls eyes**

And that electricity is all from renewable resources! **pushes in news caster ear piece** wait, nope, its not. Still throwin' coal in the old furnace for the car to run.

Get off your extremely tall horses and recognize that you're not helping shit, well, except your ego.

Meh, I still haven't payed for gas in two years. I love my bike.

Who in the hell at this point trusts GM's integrity?? Almost everything they touch turns to manure. They're going to mess this project up too. Just watch.

And does anyone else find it suspicious that instead of all the hype that GM wants to make about their 95% pipe dream Chevrolet ; they did not reintroduce the EV1? IF the EV1 were re-introduced it would be a instant mega hit. However it would be the EV2 by this time. But no, we can't OFFEND the oil companies can we? 40 miles on electricity people is no big whoop. Many of us, especially on the west coast, drive much further distances than that. And most of us are probably tired of internal combustion engines. I know I am.

If this car is really going to get this high mileage, their competition is ready to smack them down to bankruptcy again. Just watch.

And another person on here put it in an eloquent, although vulgar tone, about the corruption when it comes to USA business --> IF THE USA AUTO COMPANIES WOULD TAKE THE OIL INDUSTRY'S DICK OUT OF THEIR MOUTH FOR 2ND, we might really see some effort towards driving cars with a variety of engine technologies on the road. This is what the youth of USA wants, and it's what the environment needs.. And since youth drives the future, we need to start thinking about what they are going to want to buy and coddle. And to be fair a lot of us that are middle aged and older want to see change when it comes to automobile engine technology too.

Heil Tesla! But GM? --- Phooey. I defecate on them, and so do many if not most of us.

perhaps the high price will encourage competition.

This "Volt" better have a pop top camper, a mini stove / fridge / sink, and at least 5 seats + cargo space for that price.

and it wont even go 40 whole miles if you like to use things like.the radio, the headlights, (usefull at night) or the air conditioner ! that sucking sound you hear is your country going down the toilet.

yes i said i would never buy a chevy, but it looks like i am anyway! with 7500 dollar rebates and billions of dollars of my money going for commercials and deals with ebay.......screw them ! talk about your ponzi schemes , huh. ? go to canada and mexico where they make em ! the only people getting helped by buying junk for 5 times what its worth is the government !

After watching "who killed the electric car" and doing additional research on GM's gestapo tactics as regards muscling their vehicles into markets that were already served by electric trolleys and buses, I wouldn't buy another car from them even if they weren't overpriced, overweight, underbuilt and just plain ugly as hell.

Hell,, if they want to spend taxpayers money on a car you don't have to go to the garage for 1000 miles at least, i say go ahead

Gee, isn't this the same company that had an electric car a few years ago called the EV1, but they crushed them all, and prosecuted those with legal action that wanted to keep them. Now we are supposed to be all warm and fuzzy over the Chevy Volt, which by the way is 10 years behind the competition.

They can take their Volt and shove it up their derriere's for all I care. People should NOT support this corporation. They're sinister and lie through their teeth. They are the reason the U.S.A. does not have an interconnected and efficient public transportation system like Europe does.

For those fools that wanna yell support GM and buy American (there are plenty of those) Well, your American car darlings sell their crap in every corner of the modern world and have robbed you of more than $50billion to soak into their successful China business ventures.

They don't give a damn about the USA. The USA roads are merely their test track. Yeah, that's how big of a company they are.

i just know that sooner or later we will have to make that complete jump to electric cars. its only a matter of time until it truly forces us to do so. the capability of creating such cars is easily accessible. its just whether or not they do it, and if the customers will be willing. willingness from the United States will not come easy.

In June 9, 2006, “NOW” by PBS had a program titled, Timeline: Life and Death of the Electric Car and on November 14, 2006 was a documentary titled, “Who Killed the Electric Car?” by Sony on DVD. In that documentary, Victor Wonk built the first full-sized hybrid automobile in the United States, ironically a Buick Skylark supplied by G.M. in 1970, as part of the Federal Clean Car Incentive program.

In 1988, Roger Smith, CEO at G.M. agrees to team up with AeroVironment of California to build a practical consumer car called the “EV1” (Electronic Vehicle). Between the years 1996-2000, a few thousand all-electric cars were manufactured by automakers, such as: Honda EV Plus; G.M. EV1; Ford Ranger pickup EV; Nissan Altra EV; Chevy S-10 EV; and Toyota RAV4 EV.

There was just one little catch, though; none of the vehicles were for purchase, just for lease. By the early 2000’s “all” the major automakers production of all-electric cars were discontinued; why? G.M. announces that it will not renew leases on the EV1 models, saying, it can no longer supply the parts to repair the vehicles” and it plans to reclaim all the cars by the end of 2004.

Now, after receiving billions in "Taxpayer Bailout" money, GM has decided to manufacture a few hundred-a- month, 230 mpg Chevy "Volt" cars to compete with the pricey $40,000 Toyota "Prius." The only thing is, this is just another hybrid car and not an "all-Electric" automobile; like the earlier EV-1. Not only that, but once again, the battery only keeps a charge up to a distance of 40 miles before the gasoline-driven internal combustion engine begins to guzzle petro.

The answer to kicking the addiction to fossil fuels altogether is in the continued development of lithium-ion, solar fuel cell technology, or some other form of energy, possibly chemical to replace using fossil fuels for our transportation needs.

theres another side to this i know.

Note: The Aptera is classified as a "motorcycle".

China contributes the most damage to the sulfur emissions and stratospheric haze in the world. (google: Beijing smog). Mr. President said he wants "green energy" for Americans. With an optomistic view, GM might have the "auto-of-the-future"...

They are so late.

I am blown away at how negative everyone is on the price....New technology is always expensive. Doesn't anyone remember the zack morris cell phone. Now Cell phones are free. I believe the future will be in natural gas and hydrogen fuel cell vehicles but at least this is something different than what is already out there.

So sick of this "carrot on a stick" BS. Chevy got us into this mess and continues to make it worse... buying this car will only screw us further. We HAVE TO phase out combustion engines, people need to get different jobs, we need to start making serious change... and this is just more garbage to add to the pile that's already falling over. Sick of it!

Fuck the Chevy Volt, and fuck Chevy for continuing to baby step us away from their subsidiaries because they KNOW the timeframe and money associated with buying new cars. We're never gonna make progress with these assholes holding back the floodgate on the inevitable shift that MUST happen in every industry in the world towards efficiency and uprooting the rotten industries that are dug in so deep and intertwined beneath us. If it's not revolutionary... say no! The money has to go to a more deserved place.

The Aptera is coming out in October!!! It's almost here! Google it! THAT'S a step in the right direction.

Also... the cheaper Tesla is coming next year, too, right?

TOPIC: American Electricity vs Foreign Oil

I fell like this is a great PR move but as with every Chevy move it has a fatal flaw. Does the company really know the market for a 40k electric car? Because I feel like if they did know they would realize their market is small.

My VW gets almost 50 MPG and it's 5 years old.

The TDI costs a little more, but I've noticed I've saved a lot in fuel costs when compared to my previous car.

The Prius isn't the only car that can boast 50 MPG.

Good to see some progress though.

Sounds like some one figure it out finally.. good for GM but for all you that feel that you will never buy from them good go ahead and then think about this GM dies as is most of the companies and along with that all those places that sell those cars and fix those cars and the people who make the parts and so on.. you buy a Prius and you kill off OUR ECONOMY.. Yes it will cost more as they are not making part in third world countries but who cares. and yes some could make the same car parts that are ion the shelf now(gee all those people back in the 70's and 80's say this could be done and we just sent those the loony bin oops we were wrong) Yes there tons of people who made can that run on Alt power but they never got them o market I had friend that built a engine that could drive car from California to New Orleans on one tank of gas and back but did he put on the marker no he tried but no one believe him even with working engine. He died some year later poor and thought to be crazy for even trying to do do what he did.

We need more crazy people like him here in this country and we need to start buying cars made here I won't get Ford I like GM even with their stupid bail out BS but if we don't support American made products were going to all be learning Chinese or Japanese or both We need to stop send Jobs and all out of the US NOW . So if you don't like a good car that will get the job done made here then just don't buy it and for the Record i like the Prius as it set the bar but that bar need to be over taken now but companies here oh and Ford Gas Electric is a the Pruis tech the Lic from Toyota so even ford could not make their own that work and GM did so why not get it .
ok that all I have to say Good for GM on doing something right now lets hope the price goes down.

CG

I'll keep my bicycle just in case.

Awesome news

i hope this is a sign of things to come...i know the technology is there....i hope we can all benefit from it soon

So that's what that ad meant.

http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2009/08/the_chevy_volt_gets_230_mpg_on.php

I'm shocked at all the rediculous complaints about a car that gets good gas mileage. Personally I think this is a good move from a company that we are all shareholders in now. Nothing will be perfect but this is progress. Some of you people would be pissed if you won a million dollars because you would have to buy a new wallet.

I'm shocked at all the rediculous complaints about a car that gets good gas mileage. Personally I think this is a good move from a company that we are all shareholders in now. Nothing will be perfect but this is progress. Some of you people would be pissed if you won a million dollars because you would have to buy a new wallet.

Way too cost prohibitive.

Wait 2-3 years and they'll get the price down, and the technology improved.

230 is the range on a full tank....enjoy your koolaid

segway is cheaper! and u can ride one drunk

last year they spent 2.3 billion on advertising. how do you think they are acting with our checkbooks. this is our new country ?

how much money did that massive publicity stunt cost us..? how much was spent on this commercial that is lies and deciet? no wonder we dont trust em !

Anyone really look into the volt? it's 40 miles on electricity, then kicks in the motor. Honestly, how can one make such outlandish claims?

In response to what about the carbon footprint, the efficiency of power plants producing electricity is MUCH higher (80%+) than the 25% efficiency you get from your car.

Oh, BTW, there's no way all of america can go electric on cars. We don't have the power capacity for all the vehicles. Studies have shown that we'll need an estimated 900 B kWh of increased power producing capacity. Today, US produces about 900 GW of power... 1 average nuclear reactor produces about 1 GW. You do the math.

Don't get me wrong. I agree, we need to go electric / alt energy. However, we're not talking about overnight change. AND we need to stop these GM crooks from publicizing their "INNOVATIONS." For truth's sake, the volt goes 40 miles on electricity! That's what they should be required to publish! For reference, the Tesla Roadster goes 244 miles per charge!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Roadster

BTW, before you start hammering me on the figures I quoted, read up on some MIT energy studies: http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/topic/energy.html

http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=11797

This is the latest report from the Volt field test. Here is the actual test result conducted by GM. The car is fully charged to start with. Then you plug the car in every 23 miles and charge it full again before going the next 23 miles. If somehow the battery runs out before the next charging location and the car stalls in the middle of the road(Most GM drivers have used to this already), you power the gas engine and crawl to the charging location. The GM engineers measure the gas used at the 10th charging location and find only 1 gallon is consumed. Taking the whole distance traveled was 230 miles, they report the car could run 230 miles/gallon. That is why they use the symbol 23(power plug).

This reminds me of an ex showing up drunk at my door with a 'friend'... I think yeah nice try but why didn't you think of this before... ya know Besides I think GM has enough of my money already (bailout) i just think this should have been rolled out before the 'bailout.' Bringing such a dynamic product mere months after a restructure shows determined intent that is little more than myopic which can create other issues... like the car, not so much the company just yet.

Oh, so that was what that thing was. Well, I at least hope others will follow in this direction.

Green cars are great and all. It's a HUGE step in the right direction. But they need to green their factories, manufacturing and shipping processes.

Pointless to build a eco-friendly car in a filth spewing factory.

IT ONLY GOES 40 MILES ON ELECTRICITY, THEY ARE LYING ABOUT THOSE RESULTS. WHEN DRIVEN LIKE A CAR FOR MORE THAN 40 MILES IT IS ONLY AS GOOD AS THE PRIUS. WAY TO LIE TO AMERICANS SOME MORE !!!!!

$40,000.00 !?!?!?!

I could build one from scratch for cheaper than that.

And I'm sure Toyota and Honda are thinking the same thing too.

How many MPV? miles/volt?

and now America is crushing refrigerators too, geeeeeeee ? NO >>>>>>>> GE . Insider trading is illegal . it doesnt matter who does it.

1.) If you're going to make a green car, the key is creating a low-price green car so it moves faster off the lot.

2.) What's with the Gas-Electric hybrids? Why not pure electric, or electric-solar cars? Even France has a car powered by WATER!!

3.) I sincerely hope that GM is making these cars in the states and not overseas. With the importing cost tacked onto the sticker price and the need for American jobs during a time of recession, GM could find themselves on the wrong end of a boycott.

whats the carbon footprint of destroying cars that have allready been built ? stupid freeking wasteful greedy low-life common mother hunchers !

How many MPT (miles per ton) does the Volt get if you add in coal as an energy source for making electricity? Or add nuclear waste and the risk of its potential effects?

Are electric cars really greening our lives in the long run or are they a re-volting form of environmental media.

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Was'nt this the same company that had to move out of America to save money a few years ago? Then they went bankrupt ! Now that they are all bailed out they are spending millions of taxpayer dollars on commercials !
I dont care if they make a car that runs on happy thoughts , I will never buy from GM again ! Toyota will make something better anyway !

chevy sells, but whos buying?