Gore-Backed Car Firm Gets Large U.S. Loan To Build A Hybrid Sports Car
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The award this week to California startup Fisker Automotive Inc. follows a $465 million government loan to Tesla Motors Inc., purveyors of a $109,000 British-built electric Roadster. Tesla, like Fisker, is a California startup focusing on high-end hybrids, with a number of celebrity endorsements that is backed by investors that have contributed to Democratic campaigns.
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Fisker's Karma hybrid sports car, above, will initially cost about $89,000.
The awards to Fisker and Tesla have prompted concern from companies that have had their bids for loans rejected, and criticism from groups that question why vehicles aimed at the wealthiest customers are getting loans subsidized by taxpayers.
"This is not for average Americans," said Leslie Paige, a spokeswoman for Citizens Against Government Waste, an anti-tax group in Washington. "This is for people to put something in their driveway that is a conversation piece. It's status symbol thing."
DOE officials spent months working with Fisker on its application, touring its Irvine, Calif., and Pontiac, Mich., facilities and test-driving prototypes.
Matt Rogers, who oversees the department's loan programs as a senior adviser to Energy Secretary Steven Chu, said Fisker was awarded the loan after a "detailed technical review" that concluded the company could eventually deliver a highly fuel-efficient hybrid car to a mass audience. Fisker said most of its DOE loan will be used to finance U.S. production of a $40,000 family sedan that has yet to be designed.
"It's the ability to drive significant change in fuel economy across a large market segment" that swayed the department to approve the Fisker loan, Mr. Rogers said. "We got quite excited."
Henrik Fisker, who designed cars for BMW, Aston Martin and Tesla before starting his Fisker Automotive in 2007, said his goal is to build the first plug-in electric hybrids that won't sacrifice the luxury, performance and looks of traditional gas-powered luxury cars.
The Karma will target an exclusive audience -- Gore was one of the first to sign up for one. Mr. Fisker says all new technology starts out being expensive. He pointed to flat-screen televisions that once started at $25,000 but are now affordable to the mass market.
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Stradius
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At first glance I was concerned... then I realized the WSJ owned by Murdoch now. Perhaps there is some tilt in the story. In fact after a second and THIRD read I'm still not sure what Finland has to do with the content.... clearly edited poorly...
I don't know what the facts are for certain. The story seems to be about Fisker (a long-standing EV car company) that is based in California and is receiving $465 million to build $40,000 cars in the USA.
"Matt Rogers, who oversees the department's loan programs as a senior adviser to Energy Secretary Steven Chu, said Fisker was awarded the loan after a "detailed technical review" that concluded the company could eventually deliver a highly fuel-efficient hybrid car to a mass audience. Fisker said most of its DOE loan will be used to finance U.S. production of a $40,000 family sedan that has yet to be designed."
There are few interjected bits about the connections to the connections between various venture capital firms and companies that have contributed to the Democrat campaigns.....
BIGGER QUESTION: Which news sources can we even trust for objective information anymore.
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Stradius
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royulery
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we could build these cars with mexican labor here. why not, it would be well built for less than minimum wage. once the rich r&d the new expensive cars and the bugs get worked out of the systems then cheaper cars will follow. remember the first battery tooth brushes in the late 90's, $25--! by 2000 they were $10, now some are less than $2(they could cost $.05 to make in china) but i digress, again.
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royulery
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royulery:
Finland means robots. Finnish labor is phenomenally expensive but because of it they have highly advanced automation to make up for it. This is not a normal vehicle and may actually need a lot of automation in it's assembly. If you want to build a very small highly automated shop Finland is a reasonable choice. There is a lot of hand work that goes into a car, especially a high end one like this one. I suspect that the whole Finnish connection will not include the finish coachwork.
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bombastinator
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royulery
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good cars can not be made here without costing double. unions, nuff said.
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royulery
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speakthewords
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Once (if) these ever become more affordable, though, it will convince a great deal of people to switch to hybrid cars. Sure, we'll think the people who own them are pretentious and deeppocketed at first, but it may eventually push the car industry further toward electric power. I'm all for it.
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speakthewords
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quanta
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man with 529 million I could buy an island and we could all go live on it and start our own cable network and take ov......................
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quanta
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Think_LED
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quanta:
I'm packing...when do we leave???
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MoonLoon
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Are there any poet's here to tell me what rhymes with Gore?
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MoonLoon
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extracrazykiwi2008
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The money is well spent if you compare it the billions we are giving GM to continue to build crapy cars.
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extracrazykiwi2008:
Actually a ot of GM cars are pretty good. Me I've got my eye on a volt. I won't be able to afford it of course but I can still look.
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bombastinator
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michail77
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I think many people are missing that often with technology is that it starts out expensive. The innovations and acceptance of the technology then begins to trickle down (sorry for sounding Reganomics like) and become more affordable. Industries tool up and costs go down.
This could be a good market to incubate the technology. However, too bad it's not being done in the US.
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michail77
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nursediesel
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Build here, and one that's affordable to the average American.
Bring that money back. American's need jobs so they can buy American made products.
Just hold the plant to the same standards they hold foriegn car companies. So they can afford to build a cost effective car. (not the standards forced on the American car manufacturers). - 2 years ago
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MoonLoon
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$500 million to non-U.S. company! The latest in the arrogant scams promoted by politician/business men, sucking on the teat of the U.S. taxpayer.
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MoonLoon
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bombastinator
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The fisker loan is not new to me but the Gore connection is. What is meant by "backed"?
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bombastinator
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bombastinator:
"The Karma will target an exclusive audience -- Gore was one of the first to sign up for one."
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bombastinator:
So all he did was buy one then?
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bombastinator:
Did his investment firm provide funding?
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samthesixth
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If we are going to give out loans to companies, why not give them to the companies that will employ Americans? Every American taxpayer was fleeced on this one.
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Disappointing. We need affordable cars the middle class can drive to drive this environmental movement. The average American cannot afford 89,000 for a car. In my opinion, this does nothing to bring about any kind of environmental change. It just makes rich people richer.
And just to add, why is Al Gore's name alone associated with "backing" this? To get more attention for their headline? - 2 years ago
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JanforGore:
agreed. when i see a hybrid midsize sedan for under $40,000 i'll be excited. this is just bread and circuses.
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JanforGore:
And it strokes their egos to be able to say "I am doing something for the environment." What a joke.
Average Americans need the help more than celebrities.
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jubal
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JanforGore:
Yes Jubal. They will drive it to their jets.
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CalgarC
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i want my cars made out of hemp and fueled by the sun... wait i don't drive
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CalgarC
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CalgarC:
Awesome!
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CalgarC:
..and that sounds safer for all of us.
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CalgarC:
lotus made one like that.
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Nephwrack
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CalgarC
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CalgarC:
@nephwrack i know, so did henry ford in the late 1930's
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maizein
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gov money to help an a car company that make cars that sell for about $89,000? Why not helping a company to make hybrids that would sell for $12k ~ $15k?
There's really no one interested in reducing gas consumption... no one...
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maizein:
my thoughts exactly... there are more poor people than rich, if you really want to make change create the 12k, 15k hybrid and we will all be buying... oh and how are we loaning money when we are supposedly broke???
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ii386
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enough with the status symbol cars! i want an affordable and efficient hybrid car!
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biggranny
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quit crying about not getting your loan. welcome to the world
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biggranny:
I'm not interested in a loan, I just don't want our future generations to be paying for things that will never benefit them.
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NotFooled
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MoonLoon
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If I buy foreign it will be Toyota and it will not cost $89,000. Clearly "green" vehicles can mean more than fuel economy!
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MoonLoon
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lordsbassman
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Their ads will soon be on Current_tv I bet...
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lordsbassman:
no no... that coveted spot is for mcDonalds
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ProjectBat
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Including the founding of this network
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NotFooled
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Why, I don't get the idiocy of our politicians. Why are we giving government loans to non-American companies ? Oh yeah, because Al Gore has connections.
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NotFooled
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NotFooled:
because globalization is happening now... weather you have a problem with it or not.
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NotFooled:
"California startup Fisker Automotive Inc."
"Tesla, like Fisker, is a California startup..."
They are American companies.
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mcjk
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NotFooled:
The article says the cars will be built in Finland.
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NotFooled:
Please keep in mind that it is our money being loaned, not Al's!
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