Is the Large Hadron Collider being sabotaged from the future?

Wow. Vierotchka, that premis sounds like something out of Star Trek Enterprise. But after watching the Science channel's 4 part series documentary on Time ( Lifetime, Daytime, Earth time, Cosmic time)which Dr.Michio Kaku narrated, I'm not so sure it's so far fetched at all. On my part, I believe in Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's theory of proof. He explained it through his alter ego Serlock Holmes. Paraphrased it goes something like: In discovering the truth to solve a mystery, when you have eliminated all other theories previously considered plausable that didn't account for all the elements in a case, then whatever theory remains which does account for all the elements, however implausable it might seem, must be the truth which solves it. Ok Jerry, put some more apple peals in the flux capacitor so we can rev the DeLorean up to 84 mph, cause we're going back to the future !

"No good wine is served before it's time," perhaps applies here. Based on our inability to take care of what we already have, maybe some things are not yet meant to be. The Hadron Collider may very well fall into this category due to what it could bring based on its success.

No, Tikbalang, actually what happened was they came back and changed the Future so other timelines would be spun off that live. We are still on schedule to die 12-21-2012. Sorry. Next!

Oh, while you're waiting to die you might find this suitable reading => http://tinyurl.com/SpecialYears2012

** We who are about to die salute you!

But if the Hadron was successful in changing the past then there would have been no need to send someone back to change the past.
So if no one was sent back to change the past, then ...
Round and round we go.
Time travel. Impossible.

That's why you don't want to mess with us, and also a good reason not to refer to us as "you people". Some here get really upset when they hear that, and sometimes, there is talk of war.

And that was how they were BEFORE the asteroid went whizzing by last night about hmm, 20.25 hours ago to be precise, traveling at a knuckle-breaking speed over 18,000 mph. And they really hate it when the nun smacks their knuckles, boy do they get ticked off.

Most of you people are crazy.

Your title must not have evoked a question in people's mind... because it comes right out and tells "the particle traveled through Time" so people seeing it must've felt like there wasn't any room for discussion left it had already been decided, so they kept moving through time to the next article.

Also, your picture was on the straight horizontal and lacked the definition & colors this post had. Several of my first attempts at posts also failed to evoke discussion. I guess the title ~being in the form of a question~ has to be oops the Decider, followed by second contact, the picture. Bing, Bang, Boom or No Boom, you chose to use "Time Travel" which is somewhat overworked already to a point most people have already decided it's either possible or impossible this article opened the subject with a different angle of attack sabotage from the Future. Very effective.

So effective in fact that while we were all here commenting no one noticed a rogue asteroid whizzed past Earth yesterday 10/16 coming inside the Moon's orbit, an extremely NEAR HIT TO PLANET DIRT the crack NASA Team only saw coming THURSDAY, too late to warn anybody they were about to die.

The same crack NASA team that fizzled a Moon impact plume stated it would miss us => http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33346941/ns/technology_and_science-space/

inside the Moon's orbit, an extremely NEAR HIT TO PLANET DIRT.
inside the Moon's orbit, an extremely NEAR HIT TO PLANET DIRT.
inside the Moon's orbit, an extremely NEAR HIT TO PLANET DIRT.

Thursday, one day's notice. While we were all tooling merrily along in our Internet au to mo beel. Beep beep, beep beep, the car went beep beep beep. hehehehehe

Oh my god look! Now my article is coming back from the 'past' to the 'future' because I already posted this same story half a week ago... I'm hilarious.

http://current.com/items/91171501_time-traveling-higgs-particle-sabotages-the-la...

"The saladin- bbar Show" ---(whew)----that'l make ya keep your day job!

(-----personally,...I just thin that these H.Collider physicist guys have a sense of humor,.....and when harassed about results,.....well,...they resort to it. HEY, ...tis the Halloween season,.......................)!

126 comments!!! This story has certainly sparked a great debate. It reminds of that old joke How many Colliders does it take to find a Higgs Boson?

all it would take to knock out this juggernat is for someone to sneeze the next valley over.

i'm trying to remember a scifi series about 6+ years ago about a giant insect ship and a real y gal named zeb. the show has the ship come to earth and a robot head describes earth as being in a industrial phase that most planets don't survive because they try to find the weight of the higgs-bozon and are destroyed in the process. yea i remembered all that but not the name of the show.

saladin, bbar i learned a lot thanks. i'm glad i wasn't here for the shoot out, 'cause i wouldv'e joined in and made myself the fool. i thought i knew logic. i bow to my betters.

oh sh!t they brought back GREMLINS

Whoa.. well I think there I'd more to it then the "future making inffluences" but in the world of science, I guess anything is possible :p

What ever the outcome is, the future is another frontiier that must be investigated and without the help of an ignorant religious public. Of course some scientists are willing to stir up skeptism and problems to cover up their inability to pewrceive or search for necessary answers. Even some biologists disbelieve the Darwin Theory of evolution when it is so obvious. Vicious animals are making it difficult for our species to change or morph from monkeys to interlligent humans. The earth is faced with myriad of problems; Earthquakes, Volcano's, Hurricanes, Tornado's, Tsunami's, forrest fires, floods, asteroids from outer space, war, humans killing each other. It is a chance we strive to overlook every day to stay alive. Thesse are not on our minds but they should be and science it trying to become informed so that people may rest easy and enjoy whatever is left on this earth. The future is there to be explored, so stop misusing it.

This is some of the most speculative stupidity that has ever been referred to as science. and really? News? Yea, this and that stupid MRI music. And, OMG, look pot has been found to, like, help some disease. This and most of the things that pass for science and news on this site are incredibly disappointing. FoxNews is a better source of information.

No one knows what will happen – even the simple scientists studying this!

It's like in the 1950's when NASA was ready to send man to the moon, but didn't know just what we would find. What did they do? They sent the dog Kojak first with video taped messages from earth stating our purpose a claiming peace. That way if space creatures felt threatened and had ray guns, science was only sacrificing one dog's life instead of a crew of humans and possible mankind itself.

Well it it a money blackhole.

This idea that the chances are low that there would be a a super-semetric partner to the higgs boson created is stupid.

There is simply no way to quantify that data. We have no clue what the risks actually are, because we've never done anything like this before.

What is comes down to is that scientists REALLY WANT to do this, and others think it's a bad idea.

Yes!Time travel! Its the only logical conclusion. It cant be faulty workmanship, or human error, it has to be time travel

Time does only travel in one direction, making time travel of the future impossible and travel to the past theoretically possible.
BUT, that doesn't mean that it is or has happened and it also leaves a very big question unanswered. Why would future energies or people want to stop the collider, what is so devastating about it and if observing the Higgs boson is so terrible then why are we doing so? Curiosity killed the physicist per se?

Oh it's just Mardy and the Doc fucking with time again...

Yes

THEN DONT MAKE IT.

its other dimensional beings!!!

Every time something about space exploration or science comes up people always say "What about the poor".

Why waste our abilities to explore the universe of which we are all a part of?

I don't mean to sound insensitive, but there will always be poor. We shouldn't let exploration and knowledge be held down by lower elements of society.

If anything, knowledge and exploration can be the key to lift society and improve the world.

There are plenty of people born poor that worked hard and have gone on to be scientists, engineers and astronauts.

Who knows, perhaps a method of clean, renewable energy will be discovered. That's significantly more likely outcome than all this gloom and doom junk.

Their guess on the time paradoxes make no sense. How could altering the past in a negative light be any different than altering it in a positive one? And what kind of future is this? As far as I know there are only three ways that it can fall into:

1) Back to the Future: You can go back in time and if you alter the past, it will change the future (be it greater than or equal to the change)

2) Terminator: When you go back in time and change the past, it will not effect your future, but it will create an alternate future (which there are an infinite amount).

3) Futurama: It is impossible to alter the past when you go back in time because you being there is part of the past.

Heh, every time I see these headlines I mistakenly read "hard-on collider" and think to myself...ouch!

sabotage from the future? im surprised michael bay isnt making a movie about this article already

I'm sure by December 21st, 2012, at 7:30 pm (exact moment of the winter solstice), it will be ready to go full blast.

Its like something out of star trek!! ;-)

Don't you think time travelers trying to save the future from destruction would do more than just create set-backs for the project?
It would make more sense if they just flat out destroyed the device or at least made sure the project died, rather than just slowing it down.

What if on that day when the LHC failed in reality worked and created an astonishing discovery?
Now they are only trying to sabotage it to hide this.

How many of you think that if anything big like time travel or a portal to a new dimension would be discovered is actually going to be publicized?

What if the "Higgs boson" is God?
Maybe God isn't ready to reveal herself. She seems shy...

all of the scientist have their heart mind and soul in the project. therefore, nothing will stop them.

I am fascinated by this theory.
It could be that they are not trying to avoid a massive explosion, instead they somehow do not want us to discover time travel or parallel and new dimensions.

The irony would be that after all these attempts the day when this is actually going to work is December 21st 2012 :)

Perhaps the LHC is not going to recreate a state similar to the big bang, but is going to create THE big bang itself. Maybe the point when they turn it on is the time when the universe begins/began and time is just one big loop. It can't happen yet, because it already has happened, and it happens at a very specific point in time. Maybe everything that is happening has happened again and again back into forever.

It's a particle accelerator trying to recreate conditions just after the big bang. My guess is it will solve some mysteries such as whether the Higgs Boson really exists only to unveil more, which will mean having to build a bigger one, just like last time.

Ok, the idea (theory) makes my head hurt.

maybe if they observe the boson it will remain the way they observed it forever. like observing a particle or wave, it depends on the observer.

Having just watched Donnie Darko for the first time a few days ago, this somehow doesn't seem all that far fetched...

if it is resistance from the future, it is probably not intelligent. this could be part of the reaction to an impossible test that takes place in the far future and effects the past, long before the actual test occurs. in other words; the test can not take place because chance is effected by the test in the near future,to the past (our present), from the far future.
fundamental laws are being challenged and the fabric of nature may be pushing back.

It's well known that I am not a religous man. However, besides human sabotage, what if this is god making sure that man does not harbor the same power of a god. Meaning, perhaps we have become so powerful as a race that in learning how the big bang happened, we fully realize dark mass and obtain the ability to create universes. And then some If we are created in god's image. perhaps god was merely humans from the past who created an LHC and learned how to create us? hahaha aponder on that bitches

lol, i put this story up the other day but it was lost in the vast vault of story. It is amazing though.

Since it would not be relevant to the subjective perceptual reality of those functioning in the "future" timeline,...what would be their motivation for action? This has always been the problematic issue with "future instigators and agents",...why would they care; some sort of abstract "at least we made things better somewhen else"?

Has anyone ever tried to do a similar experiment? Isn't it a massive device? I mean, you have to figure there is going to be some hiccups along the way. The future intervening theory is extremely interesting though. I think it is somewhat plausible.

They probably just need to change the oil. mwahahah.

Ya i believe. . . and my dog ate my homework

This is dumb. Just because hes a physicist doesnt make him immune to spouting bullshit. The fact that he didnt publish it should be reason enough to dismiss this.

There is no actual science here though so there really is nothing to discuss or disprove.

To see such raw pure energy unharnessed could well be cataclysmic. Is fate then stepping in to keep that energy and perhaps even universal knowledge from being known? Or is it a higher power intervening? Or, is that pure energy the higher power so many seem to think does not exist? Would science and religion finally have to face just how similar they really are? Food for thought.

I don't know what to think about this. Just why do we need a Large Hadron Collider for any way? Will it help heal the sick or feed the poor why are people so hell bent on destroying the earth. Am I just paranoid or is this not just another weapon of mass distrucion? Maybe not in it's present form but just why are they doing what they are doing. I just don't under stand what it does or what it will be for. I think it might just be a toy for some to tinker with till they retire.