Big Bang machine is back!
source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091121/ap_on_sc/eu_sci_big_bang_machine
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---ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 25 mins ago
GENEVA – Scientists moved Saturday to prepare the world's largest atom smasher for exploring the depths of matter after successfully restarting the $10 billion machine following more than a year of repairs.
The nuclear physicists working on the Large Hadron Collider were surprised that they could so quickly get beams of protons whizzing near the speed of light during the restart late Friday, said James Gillies, spokesman for the European Organization for Nuclear Research.
The machine was heavily damaged by a simple electrical fault in September last year.
Some scientists had gone home early Friday and had to be called back as the project jumped ahead, Gillies said.
At a meeting early Saturday "they basically had to tear up the first few pages of their PowerPoint presentation which had outlined the procedures that they were planning to follow," he said. "That was all wrapped up by midnight. They are going through the paces really very fast."
The European Organization for Nuclear Research has taken the restart of the collider step by step to avoid further setbacks as it moves toward new scientific experiments — probably starting in January — regarding the makeup of matter and the universe.
CERN, as it is known, had hoped by 7 a.m. (0600 GMT) Saturday to get the beams to travel the 27-kilometer (17-mile) circular tunnel under the Swiss-French border, but things went so well Friday evening that they had achieved the operation seven hours earlier.
Praise from scientists around the world was quick. "First beam through the Atlas!" whooped an Internet message from Adam Yurkewicz, an American scientist working on the massive Atlas detector on the machine.
"I congratulate the scientists and engineers that have worked to get the LHC back up and running," said Dennis Kovar of the U.S. Department of Energy, which participates in the project.
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bethopea
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people have been hiding since the great lie - that being said, God is confusing to me, simply becuase I am human - how am I to know what He thinks, does, is - to place my human thoughts on to Him is rather easy yet silly....OH! there is this Bible we have, thee Bible - is it of parables for the teaching, predictions for the future, stories of the past...perhaps those answers were the origins and intents? though when religion took over and used thee book for none other than control, well, a black hole engulfed the minds of many.
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bethopea
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Gravity_Man
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bethopea:
All through the Bible its writers claimed God wants us to seek Him out, then when Jesus came he told us flat out knock on the door til we get answers. Apparently the answers can be had by us simple humans or we wouldn't have been told to Seek and find the kingdom. Zephaniah 2 verse 3 is very emphatic.
There are Bible versions (in common speak) and then there's Bible translations that stick closely to the oldest and most reliable manuscripts. The King James used thee a lot which is fine, but it also misused 3 completely different words into one English word "hell". That did indeed cause a black hole to open up and it engulfed much of our last 2,000 years.
That one mistake made God look like a very angry vengeful fellow. There are a number of widespread -and commonly accepted- understandings of the Bible that are flawed like that. Many people use those flawed understandings as their shoe in the door or out the back door.
Some people prefer the black hole I guess. It's comfortable. But anyone taking a little time out of their week to look deeper finds a wealth of insights. Like uhm, when Jesus disappeared into heaven an angel said he would come back "the same way". Since the cloud he disappeared into made him invisible we can know when Jesus returns his would be an invisible presence.
Whereas a person reading in other places that he would come "on the clouds" or "in the clouds" might get a surface understanding Jesus would come like Pecos Bill with a bridle strapped to a cloud. The key to correct understanding is that the word usually translated as "coming" is parousia, which means presence.
It isn't any of it complicated. If you are familiar with Matthew Chapter 24 and all the "signs" like more earthquakes and disease and so on, where most religions claiming to be Christian say these things mean Jesus is coming they in fact actually mean Jesus is already here. He's just not visible to our eyes. He isn't just here by himself either he came packing.
I found it very interesting and even fun when I learned these things. I got tired of not knowing
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Gravity_Man
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Gravity_Man
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bethopea:
Bethopea (Big Bang Pg 2) I read a page several years ago, the link is on my last crashed hdd but it explained that the Mayans did not specify one day 12/21/2012! but it pointed to a 10-year period that began in 2006 to last into 2016. They didn't prophesy/calculate it would be "The End" unless mankind made the wrong decision, then it could be. //
I had a real bad accident in 1989 not a couple weeks after the Exxon Valdez. A few months later I suddenly realized how electricity could be obtained from lightning without interfering with the lightning, a capacitance magnetic induction system. I sent it to the Department of Energy and they didn't even look at it. It was given their 6-week later denial treatment. //
In 2000 I made a sudden turn in the hallway and bam, I had a new type of Windmill that went back & forth not spin. In 2003 I came across a nitrogen-powered car engine online that had run in a prototype in 1997 and it got stuffed in a trashcan by the man's own contemporaries his fellow scientists! He made some mistakes. It took me 3 days to figure out what he did wrong. //
A few months later I had it online and began posting about it, being drawing a disability check not having any funds or backing to do anything else. I was verbally shouted down online by engineers PAID BY GEORGE W. BUSH to get in the way of anyone claiming Global Warming was Real. //
At that time I hadn't even heard of GW. I had a better engine occur to me again suddenly, in 2005 but I held it back since my car engine experience with paid assassins, but after Katrina I realized that was a "sign" for me to put it online, again for free. All my engines produce ZERO POLLUTANTS and they've been purposely kept from the world even by the Dept. of Energy in their ignorance. //
But boy, when they want to spend $9,000,000,000.xx on a collider or anything else they just crank the US taxpayer spigot as far open as they want. European taxpayers ditto. New magnetic-driven railguns that fire a million powderless metal bullets a minute for "crowd control" (angry taxpayer control). 30,000 pound bombs that blow a hole through 200 feet of solid concrete. Remote control strafing drones blowing up homes and children to force them to accept a new way of life we approve them to have. //
Everything but zero emission engines. My engine systems are of a level that qualifies them as a miracle and the ruling class that is trying to pry us lose from {ugh} religious thought refuses to work on them. Humanity gets what it gets. After the Pope went beyond scripture last week -agreeing that life probably exists off earth when he had NO RIGHT to open his mouth beyond his station- I don't believe we have an overmuch time remaining. //
The Pope has shown the world's politicians he is writing his own scripture now, a clear violation of Revelation 22:18 that says "If anyone makes an addition to these things God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll ". //
The Pope is no longer the head of Christ's church on earth if he ever was to start with he's lost that designation. In throwing his papal hat into the ring with the dragon and wild beast of Rev. 16 he has identified himself to be the 3rd leg of an unholy alliance => the false prophet. In other words, the Catholic Pope is compromising with and joined to the system (2 Corinthians 4:4).
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Gravity_Man
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bethopea
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bethopea:
It was crazy like a real person crazy - like when you realize that your parents are not perfect , that they make mistakes just like you - and after reading the news about the vatican acknowleging that there may be life in other universes, well it was kind of like that.
To concede that all this talk of 2012, the mayans, little grey men, is simply a misdirection of prophecies in order to make sure we do not pay attention to the real propecy is to be labeled in the alienation category...no no no, not alien nation like I have a ray gun and want to take over your nation hmmph, but that is the test - to stick to your guns, especially since Jesus came packing? Tis the ultimate Test.
After getting confused with all this jargon, a video came into sight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dAO4t-pGFc and it smoothed some thoughts over.
I like to think there is still hope (time, not so certain of) - that the world can come to know those non-polluting thingymagigs you built...infact, just the other day the carborator went kaput and it would be very dandy indeed to replace it with the Z.P....though it is not about the need - it is however about acceptance and knowledge.
*remember - backups are you friend, so are external HD's (1TB preferably)
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bethopea
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Gravity_Man
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I wonder why the scientists seem so driven to reach 7 billion volts by 2012? => http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/24/science/24collide.html?_r=1&th&emc=th
Have they all converted to Mayanism? Blowing up Planet Dirt to stop the asteroid~meteor threat I dunno, call me CRAZY, but it seems like there should be a better way to win a contest than reversing Creation.
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Gravity_Man
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bethopea
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Gravity_Man:
winning the con-test means finding the 'secret to life itself'
shush...it's a secret and secrets don't make friends.I see your 7 billion and raise you 7 trillion electron volts.
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bethopea
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Gravity_Man
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Gravity_Man:
Was it 7 trillion not billion?! Hmm, nope, can't happen; that would mean I made a mistake. But that slip wouldn't be anywhere near what the Pope did in forming a earthly trinity with the dragon & wild beast. Oh well what th' heck. They all like holding all the money so they belong together.
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Gravity_Man
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SirSalem
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This is the epic nerd invention of all time. Glad to see it is still coming along. I know there has been a lot of time and money invested into it.
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Gravity_Man
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The Bible has lots of fearsome creatures => a dragon, wild beast, locusts and scorpions. But in Chapter 16 it mentions the appearance of FROGS as signaling a big step forward closer to "the End" (Armageddon).
I notice the Hadron collider has lots of green in it. Just a thought.
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Gravity_Man
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bethopea
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Gravity_Man:
the poison dart frogs i live with on a daily basis are not green, infact they are red and blue - kind of like this fellow: http://synthreferee.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/poison-dart-frog2.jpg
...perhaps God will send green ones, hopefuly the non-poisonous type =) maybe their combined colors will be that of the color green...?
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bethopea
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Gravity_Man:
He looks like a baby frog after its parents wandered through a Hadron collider... so maybe it won't destroy us after all, just make us lots of new colors like Dolly Parton's coat.
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bethopea
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Gravity_Man:
The Technicolor Dream Coat! Which kind of turned out bad for Joseph...
(o_o)Fun Mnemonic Exercise Time!
FROGS =
Free Return Of God's Son
Faith Reigns Over Gory Satin
Fat Republicans Object to Good Sex
Frogs Rain On Good Saints
Forever Raped On Green Serpents - 2 years ago
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bethopea
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Gravity_Man:
I distinctly recall when Harrison Ford was sloshing through the tunnel he said I Hate Mnemonics... altho hmm, he could have really meant Fat Republicans I guess. It was a long time ago in a world far away where I don't think they liked mnemonics either, but most everybody everywhere likes the Natalie Portman girl seems like.
Ah ha! She's the binding tie to it all. Notice how intelligently she stayed out of that crazy movie with all the flying bugs eating up the planet til what's his face changed his mind.
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Gravity_Man
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ride442
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Change could mean destruction....the current administration is a prime example.
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ride442
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dsidney
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gotta admit, it looks cool as fuck!
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marvin0022
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test
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marvin0022
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i ve been tracking the news on this cosmic machine since it began. cant wait to see what insight it unravels about the creation of our life.
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spanky07:
Funny you should mention God. It seems God has already stopped the Hadron from working twice. Now God can do whatever God wants to do is my faith, and right now He appears to be letting them have some success. We're all joking about it because it's totally out of our hands.
Most of us are joking. May as well since it looks a lot like the big A is in the pipeline... since two Fridays out of the last 4 has had near earth misses from two meteors, one at 216,000 miles and the 2nd at 14,000 kilometers. October 16 and November 5 I think they were. The solar system is drifting across a meteor field.
Asteroids or meteors, whatever, I'm not an astronomer.
I'm Dom dom DOM =>
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spanky07:
At this point learning to fly the conventional way is out, always wanted to test drive one of those A-Wings...however, let's make it simple, who needs clunky shaceships anyway.
Traveling out of the body - now that's the way to go!
Dualism anyone? - 2 years ago
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bethopea
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Gravity_Man
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spanky07:
I don't rightly know either spanky07. She seems to want to escape her body and go flying off somewhere out thataway in a two person liason, or something.
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bethopea
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spanky07:
...to infinity and beyond....wait...it all started in a galaxy far far away, and then, the thing that happened spanky07, is people grew impatient, impotent? hell, maybe they developed an impotency for life itself - not God, God is still the same as it ever was, same at it ever was, same as it ever was....so, I guess we are all just a bunch of talking heads in the melting pot...I'll take thee fish head soup in a butter-cream liaison please.
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bethopea
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spanky07:
Hiding behind the truth is okay with God? Whew. These new improved Bible versions! My Bible hasn't deleted John 17:3 or 4:23 & 24 yet. People do try to hide, as it says in Revelation they will do, except they clamor for their "mountains" to hide them from the Lamb.
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Gravity_Man
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bethopea
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i might decide to jump into the LHC at the last moment - just so ya know...
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bethopea:
You won't be jumping alone. Once they build it, they will come. You can't break a Hollywood rule of that magnitude.
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bethopea:
I think that particle beam will just burn your nuts off, like that laser almost did to Bond.
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bethopea:
We can bring in Son of Flint and stop that.
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thecoyote23
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I think America needs to invest more money in scientific research. I think the world is due for some positive scientific discoveries. Its too bad the Conservatives don't believe in science and would rather tax payer money be only used to kill people overseas.
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thecoyote23:
Taxpayers aren't too big to fail? Whew. It's rather topsy-turvy on the one hand being able to VOTE is supposed to give American citizens a tremendous edge over every other people in the world. But it seems like US citizens are first man off the plank.
Spending $700 million on the Election was a big party, like the band playing as the Titanic went down. They haven't stop playing and haven't stopped spending money ever since. If ya ask me they've all gone off the deep end.
And then spending $79 million to pop the Moon. To be honest with you coyote I think they have totally lost any concept of what money means. They think like Bush, in terms of how much percentage. He used percentages to justify military spending.
Just like this Hadron Super Collider. I'm sure there's people in Europe could use the money for food, keeping warm, but the people allocating out the monies just keep shoveling it to whoever they want to have it... and flip the people who paid it the bird.
There's plenty being spent on scientific research but the kids doing it are students from overseas, with loyalties back home, so I'm sure they tell us a few scraps but they take the lion's share of their discoveries outside the border with em when they go home.
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thecoyote23:
I think this is more of an example of how the world will be leaving the US behind. While the conservatives are turning their noses up at the scientists here in the states, some research team in the EU or China is going to come up with the next multi-trillion dollar scientific discovery. Nantechnology, biotechnology, AI, who knows, maybe something as far out as anti-gravity. That country will then use those profits to usher in a new age of prosperity for their people, meanwhile President Palin will be blaming the Great Depression II on Obama's stimulus package, and executing all the gays... or something nightmarish along those lines.
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thecoyote23:
Uhm, well, just how hard is it to leave the US behind now anyway? We've gone to almost all small businesses. Right now we're reduced to a nation of small business teepees.
There's a lot of banks, Wall Street, plenty of Government, but the nation is reverted back to Indian days... except we're all selling Amway, Shaklee, Avon. And the Prez is cutting deals with child labor butchers if it gets him a chicken.
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trampfan
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Maybe they'll sned all of Europe back to some past time like WWII. This time let them go away.
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trampfan
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trampfan
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Maybe they'll sned all of Europe back to some past time like WWII. This time let them go away.
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LowShred
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Yay Science!
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Gravity_Man
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So, at the LAST MOMENT if you oops think I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy, the Man could accept your plea?... and not send ya to the place that's the best? Wow.
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bethopea
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Gravity_Man:
hooray! you be getting thee gist
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bethopea
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Howz that go? "Doin' the Wang-Dang Doo-doo, all night long"
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PajamaDan
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Mankind once again creates an affront to nature itself.
With something like this,... even remote possibilities should be explored and weighed.
I really don't wanna find out what this thing's collateral damage could be. - 2 years ago
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PajamaDan:
Don't you be frettin' PajamaDan. I just had me a vision. When it blows it will take all the scientists, get indigestion and stop. Hmm. Maybe it will reach out some tentacles and take whoever these people are who keep typing up 2,000-page bills.
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Gravity_Man
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this just scares me.
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Gravity_Man
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I see lots of colored molecules whizzing by already. It must me all the expectation. I've never ridden a fireball before. Thank God those scientists are predic=table and never give up, they never quit.
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Gravity_Man:
Good timing near Christmas looks like a mechanized Christmas tree. Ooh, Mommy, can I light it up this year pleez?
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Gravity_Man:
...no son, you've done enough damage this year...here, place that lump of coal Ol'Santa gave you into the fireball - watch - it has turned into anti-coal...now, it can cool instead of heat...looke - we are all turning into anti-people...finally, a home for every thought.....
geeze, the LHC really freaks me out. Can't get death out-a-the brain....Personally I think whatever happens - if/when we all die - the after life will be based on a desire of perception - Athiests will have nothing, Believers in God will have heaven or if they think they have been bad then hell...perception with expectation....for whomever....but that is another topc, clearly.
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Gravity_Man:
When you die, the brain - which is generating all these thoughts - stops.
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Gravity_Man:
Whoa! I see lots of words on the page but thoughts? Man, you're going too far now. Thoughts are supposed to accomplish something. Wait a minute. Well, hold the phone. Bailey has warned us of the coming attack from the thin wormy Moon people who fit down those straw-like front doors.
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ride442
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It will probably get cranked up real good by about 12/21/2012!
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ride442:
2012 isn't the end of the world. The Mayans believed it to be a time of change, not destruction.
And it better not take 2 freaking years to turn it on.
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Awesome! I can't wait to see what we find.
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bailey78
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I have a bad feeling about this. I hate it went things all of a sudnen get better with out the normal stress of haveing to fight it to get it to work. some times when things go easy it a bad deal for all invoved. This looks like it could really mess something up.
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bailey78:
Every car I ever had, right before the engine gives out it starts running really smooth, and strong. Well, nice knowing ya Bailey78. Since we're about to go can I start calling ya just Bailey? Yeah, that's my friend, just Bailey.
Don't worry Bailey. It'll be fun, like riding a lightning bolt just faster. We'll find out if the frogs in Revelation 16:13 are really green too.
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bailey78:
Yea Gravity_Man I know just what you meen when you say just before the engine drops a rod through the oil pan it will run better than it ever did and sence they are hell bent on destroying the earth in one swift swoop you can call me Bailey. How in the world did it go this far so quick it's not like we don't have enough to worry about.
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bailey78:
Grownups playing teenagers, working on their hotrod, singing on the bleachers with Olivia Newton-John girl from Pluto. Hey! Oh wow, they just discovered Nitrous Oxide but of course, for the benefit of all Mankind they won't use it.
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bailey78:
I had me a bottle of NoS once froze my face to it. When my lips thawed out they swole up damn near as big as my head. I had a very bad four months of eating every thing through a straw.
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They could stand that thing up out in the yard and have one good solar cooker too. We could return to the days of yesteryear, chickens in every pot and so on.
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bethopea
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Black holes - Here we come =)
actually, that picture looks like how I would imagine a black hole... - 2 years ago
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bethopea:
Black holes dont look like anything since light can't escape them, but if you could see them it would just look like a tiny star because thats really what they are.
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bethopea:
Are they? :-}
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bethopea:
Wait a minute tome_erau! If you're being pulled into a black hole at the Speed of Light and the light around you is also being pulled in at the Speed of Light, then beth should be correct. You'd be surround by Christmas bulbs and they're ALL TURNED ON.
Well shoot fire, somebody call them boys and tell em ta pour on the coal!
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bethopea:
If black holes really are going to come out of this, at least Europe's going first.
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They (the scientists) must be traveling at an accelerated rate of time.
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pjacobs51:
Good one.
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Slusho
