Swiss find that gamers commit war crimes
source: http://nexus404.com/Blog/2009/11/24/swiss-find-that-gamers-commit-war-crimes-study-finds-tha...
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Two Swiss human rights organizations got together and tested a set of 19 war games, with the goal of looking for ‘virtual’ rights violations and the breaking of the Geneva Convention. Not surprisingly, they found that most war games don’t follow the Geneva Convention.
Released on the heals [sic] of ‘Modern Warfare 2′ (which featured a segment where players could kill several hundred civilians in a Russian airport), the report from the Swiss claims that games are sending the wrong message to the world’s youth. They claim that games today promote the idea that wars today are waged without limits and that counter-terrorist operations have no legal or moral limitations.
The Swiss found that the following things were currently allowed in popular war video games, killing civilians, torture, unnecessary destruction of buildings, killing of combatants who surrendered, the use of heavy anti-vehicle weapons on on-foot combatants, and finally, the destruction of churches and mosques.
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sbspoons
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ibrake4rappers13:
holy crap. HAHAHA
- 2 years ago
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sbspoons
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ibrake4rappers13
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PWNING n00bs is not a war crime.
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ibrake4rappers13
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dusty_red_rivet_head
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ibrake4rappers13:
This had me rolling on the floor laughing.
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dusty_red_rivet_head
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flyingkick
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ibrake4rappers13:
i lol'd
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flyingkick
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Thargor19
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ibrake4rappers13:
pwn'n noobs takin gamertags
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Thargor19
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Giganticus
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ibrake4rappers13:
LoL! Pure win.
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Giganticus
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MizPiz
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ibrake4rappers13:
http://www.noobstore.com/prodimages/tshirt-m-che-jeremy-Green-art-280.gif
It is your mission in life - 2 years ago
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MizPiz
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jubal
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Games are embedded with subliminal messages, sociological messages, they transmit attitudes and elevate the heart rate as well as other metabolic functions. They are the perfect media for indoctrination of ideologies. They aren't "just games."
I saw the huge difference in my nephew's behavior change from age 5 to 6 after his dad brought home the game DOOM and taught him how to play. My nephew became more aggressive, started acting out violently, and became obsessed with guns; granted they are air guns, but he got into the whole thing, including camouflage gear and face mask and boots. Now he is 16 and you cannot tear him away from his war games, unless you are offering a really good home cooked meal.
My other two nephews gave up college plans to play Warcraft.
I know from first hand observation how powerful and destructive video games can be to weak minded individuals. How addictive they are and how much time they consume. These kids you could hardly get them to stop playing and even go to a movie, unless the movie was as or more violent than the games.
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jubal
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Eddie_Miller
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jubal:
doom wasn't made for 6 year old children. these games have rating systems just like movies. of course a game will have some effect on a person. so does a movie. so does another person speaking to them. holy crap, maybe we should ban anything that may possibly influence our children.
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Eddie_Miller
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jubal
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jubal:
"Doom wasn't made for 6 year old's" Try telling that to my former Brother n Law. This guy is a video game addict as much as he is a drug addict, too.
The video game violence and the exposure of those games on my sister's children was one of the major causes of their divorce; their disagreement on how to parent the children.
But the effect of the game on the 6 years old mind is undeniable and easily observable, even in family videos. You never saw such temper tantrums in your life.
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jubal
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hayden_augustus
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jubal:
Maybe you have weak genetics, bad sibling parenting skills, or they have a grumpy ole uncle. It is never one thing that makes boys aggressive and blaming video games is nothing more than a scapegoat.
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hayden_augustus
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artemis6
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jubal:
There is only one game I have exposed my 7 year old to "journey to wild divine " . This sort of game can strengthen internal controls . The developing brain of a child is constantly strengthening neuro-pathways . The emotions you experience and level of adrenalin become what they need to feel normal . Out of balance intensity is not a good place to live and make wise choices . Kids play video games too old for them in my neighborhood . I do not believe this is healthy for them . Their inner emotional balancing thought patterns are not developed enough . Many will loose their psychological balance and become drunk on emotion and addicted to this state . Life is too wonderful to be swallowed up by something that is not a genuine human interaction . Especially if it warps your mind to hypersensitive perception of aggression and belief that violence is an actual problem solving method .
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artemis6
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PureEm
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jubal:
Well then you can blame the father for being an unfit parent. Although gamers may not agree, the ESRB ratings on games serve a purpose: to ensure games are only sold to the proper age group.
And about games being destructive: I've been playing games like SWAT and Tekken since I was a little kid. I've been a gamer my whole life and I do play those shooting war violent etc games. And you know what? It's fine for me. Call of Duty 5 gave me a deeper appreciation for the courageous feats of our armed forces. I found it wrong to commit actions in games which are contrary to the Geneva Convention.
Despite having a played violent video games, I'm still someone who actively works with humanitarian organizations and volunteer groups. I seek out information about the Geneva Convention and International Humanitarian Law. I still want to work for an NGO in the hope of making a positive impact on the world once I graduate. My cousin played the same games I did. He's now in university taking his masters in engineering.
You can't take an example of a parental failure and use it to generalize. It ultimately boils down to the person and whether or not they have the mental capacity to handle these sort of games.
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PureEm
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sbspoons
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jubal:
First off, no parent should let their 5 year old play Doom. It' s really the parent's fault for not having a handle on their kids playing games. The games have a strict rating system for a reason. When I was 13 i asked my mom to buy a m rated game, she said no, and i was alright with that, I simply waited until i was older. Second, it's NOT real. It is fiction, like a book or a movie. Yes it may be real looking but it is fiction! If you cannot tell the difference that is very sad indeed.
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sbspoons
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CalPerr
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jubal:
My behavior changed greatly after I read Anthem. Are books therefore tools of indoctrination?
The key to your argument is "weak minded individuals" and "kids" as the target. Censorship is bad but point of purchase control I am entirely in favor of. Kids shouldn't be allowed in R movies and they shouldnt be allowed to play M games. They should be watching Disney movies and playing Nintendo Games. The medium is(should be) not the issue.
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CalPerr
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jubal
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jubal:
I never said that video games should be banned. I was stating my observations. No i am not a grumpy uncle that has it in for video games. I used to play video games myself. I played Doom, I played Duke Nukem, I played Tomb Raider and then I decided that spending 8 hours a day playing video games was a waste of my time, when I could be writing music and playing with my band mates. Video games was a fad in my life that lasted 6 months, tops. Going to college and getting a degree was a much better use of my time.
What could be interpreted as being a "boor" on my part is that I am not going to economically support young adults (my nephews) by providing them room and board so they can sit for 10 hours a day playing their games. While they stayed at my house, they were playing their games from Noon until 4AM the next morning, then they would sleep and wake up and do it all again the next day. They would not help to do any chores in exchange for my financial help, except for one of them, who always worked and helped out, but he didn't play his games more than a couple hours at the most. He also played guitar and was in a band, so that may have had something to do with it.
My philosophy is live and let live. My stand is that I don't want to see these violent video games RATED M to fall into the hands of children who are vulnerable to messages conveyed in them.
I am not attacking adults. If you want to spend your life in a virtual world, have at it. Knock yourself out. I am not here to insult you or demean your art or whatever. My stand is for children: PERIOD.
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jubal
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jubal
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jubal:
@purem, I agree with what you said. There are adults who are gamers who have very productive lives. Kudos to you and to your friends who do.
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jubal
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CalPerr
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jubal:
Well your right on target with all that. The reasons you listed is the exact reason I don't play World of Warcraft any more. Eight hours a day is horrible, unless your getting paid. Personnaly, I get in an hour or two a day(if at all).
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CalPerr
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courage
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wow there are democrats in switzerland
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courage
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courage:
nope actually switzerland is governed by the socialist party
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RaceBannon
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CalPerr
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courage:
their current pres. is conservative though
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CalPerr
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Progresshiv
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The corporate fascists are brainwashing a new generation to follow orders blindly. What a ghastly gift to put under the Christmas tree.
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Progresshiv
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thea_inthecity
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hey, they've got a point.. games are supposed to be so realistic these days, might as well make them accurate.
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thea_inthecity
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regjoeschmo
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ummm, they are games.....
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regjoeschmo
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jubal
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regjoeschmo:
@regjoeschmo, they indoctrinate boys in the ways of war and of mistreating women. I thought you were concerned about the image of men in the world and improving the way they are treated. Don't you think that setting limits on games that influence men to act in improper ways is a good thing when it comes to your larger goals?
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jubal
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regjoeschmo:
considering this is a direct reply the @____ is unnecessary...
how about the parents taking a role and explaining that there is a difference between games and real life... teaching children critical thinking skills will prevent indoctrination..... You assume a lot about me jubal, and your not even half right....
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regjoeschmo
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jubal
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regjoeschmo:
I assume a lot based on how often I see you and Motherfortruth commenting on the same stories. I actually do read your posts and you do seem to be in favor of improving the way men are looked at in this country? Are you telling me that this is a false assumption?
Most parents who allow their children to play video games for hours on end, are allowing the video games to be the babysitters. Most parents who truly care about their child's well being wouldn't allow them to play such violent video games.
Also the brain cannot differentiate between reality and simulation, the physiological reactions are exactly the same. The body is being conditioned to create and maintain certain hormone levels of things like adrenaline and serotonin.
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jubal
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CalPerr
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regjoeschmo:
More than entertainment, they are art. Art should not be being used by those unable to appriciate it. In example, in part of the new Call of Duty, the player is essentially a terrorist. Technically the player is undercover as a CIA agent but the idea of the ends justifyng the means is the theme of the art. If the audience isn't mature enough to handle that, I can understand.
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CalPerr
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regjoeschmo:
It is true that games can cause the mind to react as if it was real, but again, this is something the parents have to explain to the children, so they are able to make a concious decisions when playing the games
I comment based on the inequality of expectations based on gender, you take it how you want to. but still why even bring this up in this debate?? Is it somehow relative?? Do these posts you speak of threaten you in any way??
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regjoeschmo
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jubal
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regjoeschmo:
Not at all. I agree with many of the posts that you and MFT post.
I was making a correlation with this about video games, because they are much more popular with men than they are with women.
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jubal
