Scientists expected to unveil the discovery of dark matter

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Ryuu88
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im no scientist but the god particle has like nothing to do with dark matter atleast from the books ive read. maybe googe before posting next time?
- 2 years ago
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Ryuu88
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ryan8566
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they were walking around the Congress at the time.
- 2 years ago
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ryan8566
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couldntfindausername
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Oh dear, something terrible has happened. What happened to the olden days when people had the decency to either educate themselves about scientific topics before commenting, or staying quiet?
- 2 years ago
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couldntfindausername
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Gravity_Man
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couldntfindausername:
Ah yes, you mean the 1950's when nobody talked back, just sat their reading the textbook like it was a stone tablet. Yeah. I think the Internet has dashed that god to pieces forever. Whew, and now that so many major scientists fell into twisting or otherwise obscuring data to keep their high-paying jobs it may just be an open field for new experts.
- 2 years ago
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Gravity_Man
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Gravity_Man
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couldntfindausername:
If they ever find out I designed an engine in 2005 that defeats Entropy, or that my car engine is a new layer of Physics above the crippling thermodynamic laws, you'll need a telescope to see them then.
But for me to do all that I had to set their stone tablets over to the side.
- 2 years ago
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Gravity_Man
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couldntfindausername
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couldntfindausername:
No problem with people critiquing information or "talking back" - my problem is with the morons who insist on spewing twaddle on science stories when they know less than very very little about the issue.
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couldntfindausername
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Gravity_Man
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couldntfindausername:
Hmm. In many respects a savant can be called a moron. Maybe you have set too high an expectation for this new forum where people state their opinions freely. I see a great opportunity for you to set up a new type of forum, perhaps even a new Internet where many hall monitors slash and burn people's stupid comments.
You could regulate the Blacks again too, and make sure no Native Americans put any more Hopi prophecy videos online. Hmm, but then people might start calling you names too, so that would be bad. In the past I've encountered blogs where people decided whose comments got posted and whose did not.
Current seems to have attracted people who didn't like the Chinese method. I don't know how we can possibly hope to stop it. They seem to be a rather great crowd no man can number.
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Gravity_Man
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Gravity_Man
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couldntfindausername:
Keeping people quiet is an interesting idea. I've had people trying to keep me quiet all my life, certainly a longtime before any Internet got here. I'm very familiar with having relatives even step on my creativity as if I was a cigarette butt needing to be smashed out at all costs stop the kid. I was chased off a piano seat, chased away from playing with my BLIND COUSIN"s new Erector Set.
When I came up with a summer project for myself to carry dirt from our basement and get the other half of our basement to a condition where we could use it I was told no, somebody won't like it. Another year I learned how EASY it was to start a home business raising nightcrawlers but was told no, no can do that. A year and a half later a family not a mile from us started a business that took care of their needs quite well for decades.
They were raising and selling earthworms, not just for fishing but for replenishing nutrient-depleted soil. What I wanted to do.
Coming up towards today, after several smashing accidents in 86 and 89 where terrific amounts of energy went through me being smashed by heavy weights I suddenly saw how to get half this world's electricity from lightning, specifically by catching the induced magnetic field that pops off the front of a DC current down a conductor, in their case a metal pole (lightning rod).
That was in 1989. Yep, there were plenty people around still standing on my neck so what once was just stopping me became stopping everybody else. In 2000 I designed a new type of Wind Power device that doesn't spin; instead it reciprocated back & forth. I "protected" it in many numerous -and supposedly powerful- ways but another inventor used it to fill in his invention's gaps. One was a military plane that flies without fuel. I doubt you've heard about it but it was coming off the production line over a year ago. They can deliver munitions, payloads of ordinance to any place on earth.
Or food supplies and medicine.
In 2003 I made an engine system that used air + water in a neverending cycle, like a Weather Engine, a canned Tornado explosion that produces no exhaust (as in no pollutants whatsoever). Instead of combusting fuel it uses conplimentary laws of Physics that I called Imitation Energy in 2004, and in 2007 or 2008 I began calling it "Physics Fuel".
In 2005 another system that would give everyone on Earth their own home-based power supply. You aren't getting them either eh? Gee. That's too bad. But it's the story of my life and also the story of yours too, the days you stood pumping $4.00 a gallon gas lining the pockets of corporate mobsters, or perhaps as a poor child watched your Mom pumping.
I have also come to understand there are others just like me, that this vaunted damnation of strangulation of a political system has stopped them too. Point of fact is friend they were here ahead of us watching for us and knocking us down each time they saw one of us appear on their radar scopes over at the Department of Energy and also stationed on watch screening through the new Copyright applications to see us and mark us to be stopped.
In 1989 I authored a poorly-written mini-novel as I was very ill yet from the multiple blows I took in March. In it I included a way to use heat of the sun in Badwater near Death Valley (maximum rate of evaporation there), to evaporate massive amounts of water out, leaving ocean gold. By now in 2009 had my system been used instead of stopped we'd be rolling in gold standard currency.
You will go far in this world. Just stop people who lack the proper credentials to invent. Be a bonus in it for ya if they happen to be of a religious group or if they're part-Hopi.
- 2 years ago
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Gravity_Man
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royulery
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if dark matter were found it would validate the current model of the universe. the current model could easily collapse as it is based on a number of assumptions that could easily be fantasy. there is another model, the steady state model which could just as easily be true. inventing a particle to make the math work is too easy.
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royulery
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Gravity_Man
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royulery:
Yeah roy, a shame somebody doesn't harness all that energy. A real shame.
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Gravity_Man
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Energy is released from the singularity of a black hole in the form of a Gamma Burst. Its a huge stream of particles in the form of radiation, like when a star explodes, a black hole implodes... Now, Dark energy is the remnants of all these happenings like the dust between your keyboard buttons. No really, Dark Matter is detectable like sunlight is to the Earths atmosphere, Because even though it has no real mass or structure, its STILL ENERGY (that also possesses Gravity). Theory states that only mass contains gravity.
So Riddle Me This, When the energy from the Sun passing around the Earth is not only in light radiation but also in electromagnetic fields that effect our atmosphere in numerous ways because these particles of energy are protons and neutrons that are forced to pass around the Earth. You may know this as the Aurora Borealis- or the Northern Lights... Now when we learn (gain technology) to utilize or gather or even collect these particles like nose hair collects dust for boogers, then we WILL see that what we thought the galaxy is doing IS not just moving randomly and bumping into one another from eon to eon, Our existence is a magnaminous, Yet odly-orchestrated-syncronicity filled with unlimited potential. If Dark Matter contains Gravity yet shows no mass-meaning Why Cant WE SEE it , then why does it warrant to be called MATTER at all???
Scientists claim that without Gravity then All things would continually expand and have no form @ all... therefore Dark Matter is NOT Matter @ all. It must be a form or point of energy- Like a numerous grid of subatomic particles moving infinitley fast across the same axis, and this form of energy appears to be @ a place that we can pinpoint yet Who Knows what or where this 'Matter' is when the energy of the Cosmos is flowing all around eternity. - 2 years ago
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tyce56
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The God Particle is another name for the Higgs bosson, or the Higgs particle. The Higgs particle is hypothesized to the be the extension of the Higgs field, an invisible field that essentially gives mass to matter in the universe. The Higgs particle would complete the standard model of physics and fill in the gaps of quantum physics (This is the goal of the Large Hadron Collider and another particle accelerator in Texas).
Dark matter is a completely different beast. Dark matter is the undetectable mass in the universe that has been observed only indirectly through its gravitational effects on galaxies.
So... God Particle gives mass to matter
Dark Matter is invisible matter - 2 years ago
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tyce56
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manfreddrake
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Can anyone speculate on what would happen if a probe where sent into the dark matter region?
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manfreddrake
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RaceBannon
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science is awesome! Imagine if this thing turns out to be legit, that someday in the future science labs in schools will have hands on lectures on dark matter. Dammit I need to find the fountain of youth or something..
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RaceBannon
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Gravity_Man
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RaceBannon:
You rang? http://tinyurl.com/200yearsyoung will help you.
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Gravity_Man
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Follow_me
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Im not so glad since you know their just gonna use it for some type of weapon or something
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Follow_me
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jcamille
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awesome
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jcamille
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bailey78
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Isn't this what happens after last call and there is only the ugly chicks left if it's dark in the room then it don't matter? That is the dark matter ya'll are talking about right ? anyway I hope they find what they're lookig for.
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bailey78
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Crenshaw_Brothers
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oh and why is it called dak matter im sure theres a reason any ideas?????
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Crenshaw_Brothers
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rwahrens
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Crenshaw_Brothers:
It's called dark matter because it doesn't give off or reflect light, so it can't be detected in telescopes.
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rwahrens
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Gravity_Man
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Crenshaw_Brothers:
Two words Morgan Freeman.
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Gravity_Man
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Tyrannous
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sounds delicious
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Tyrannous
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Crenshaw_Brothers
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well isnt that nice of them maybe dark matter can explain where all my stuff goes and i thought we had discovered it along time agooooooo but correct me if they didnt have any proof and it was just a theory
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Crenshaw_Brothers
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rodstradamus
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There is no such thing as "Dark Matter." Black holes, Big Bang, String Theory are all scientific hoaxes, just like Global Warming. Plasma, the fourth state of matter, makes up 99% of the universe and since it is electrically charge, it accounts for the electromagnetic forces in space, which are billions of times stronger than gravity. Yet, modern science is yet to drop the Newton-Einstein gravity only model and have created mathematical hypothesis based on formulas that don't include a force billions of times stronger than gravity. That's why they come up with these fictitious theories and pretend to know the beginning of the universe, but they don't know anything b/c they are mid-level quackademics.
http://current.com/groups/electric-universe/ - 2 years ago
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rodstradamus
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rodstradamus:
Rod, how do you know that your information is any more credible, or that your source is somehow smarter than the majority of scientists? I'm having a hard time finding information on him.
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DeliaTheArtist
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urbanwolf
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rodstradamus:
Citation Needed
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urbanwolf
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rodstradamus
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rodstradamus:
I know. Censorship is a b*tch, but the there are a bunch of sites that present the electric universe theory. Once you get into it, it totally transcends the old science. www.thunderbolts.info, http://www.electric-cosmos.org. Also, it is important to know about Immanuel Velikovsky, Halton Arp, Hannes Alfven and Kristian Berkland. Most of it is on my electric universe page.
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rodstradamus
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versasrev
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rodstradamus:
Rodstradamus
"there are a bunch of sites that present the electric universe theory."And there are a bunch of sites that present what they claim to be a theory of Intelligent Design as well; however we all know that ID is in no way scientific.
YOUR logic is as inherently flawed as the argument for "the electric universe theory," good sir!
and by the way the electro-magnetic force still requires particles to work. Positrons, Glueons, Negatrons, Electrons, Protons, Neutrons, and all the variations of quarks are proven to exist; but where a matter of hypothesis before there detection, and it is such for the Bose-Higgins particle (or Graviton as it has sometimes been refereed to as).
BTW, to claim that Dark Matter and Dark Energy don't exist would require an overwhelming amount of scientific evidence; which you and the people you support lack.
Listening to your ramblings I'm reminded of chapter 7 from Carl Sagan's Broca's Brain. In chapter 7 Dr. Sagan gives a break down for how a certain Dr. Velikovsky's theory, for the origin of the planet Venus coming out of Earth as the product of a catastrophic planetary collision, is without any scientific merit by completely breaking down his entire thesis and accurately disproving every segment of it.
The point is that inaccurate and unscientific information must be dealt with swiftly to prevent the spread of ignorance, this is one of those times.
That leaves me with ... Do I feel like making that my job in this particular case? If I don't then am I consign you to the horrid fate of wallowing in you own ignorance? Well you find the scientific right path without guidance?
Believe me when I say this, that at this moment you are ignorant, however ignorance isn't really as insulting as most people believe it is.
A wise man is aware of his own ignorance.
Just give yourself a few years, 5 maybe even 10, and I think you'll see the who you've just decided to hitch your wagon to something new and exciting, like the newest indie sensation.
But then again maybe all of this is to much to expect from someone who references Nostradamus.
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rodstradamus
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rodstradamus:
The Venus coming out of Jupiter is such a fantastic hypothesis. No, I don't subscribe to it, but Sagan did eventually in his later years give Velikovsky a lot of credit, especially when radio waves were discovered coming from Jupiter and the true temp of Venus was found to be what Velikovsky predicted. I also don't subscribe to Intelligent Design, but religious groups do cling to it b/c it gives relevance to the biblical history. What I do is the research in as objective a search for the truth and to find amazing, intelligent people challenging the status quo, similar to Galileo and being castigated. I can't tell you how the universe started, or if man came from monkeys or if aliens exist, but from what I've learned in the past year, almost everything I thought was true, isn't. Its harder to prove black holes, the big bang and dark matter, than it is to prove the electric universe theory. Btw, Carl Sagan made his career as the establishment's hatchet-man to debunk Velikovsky. In the "Velikovsky Affair" scientists debated his theories and denied him a say. He had to watch from the sidelines as they tarnished his name and banished him in history, while holding to old science. The Big Bang is nothing more than Virgin Mary in space. Once you realize they are hiding the fact that there is FREE ENERGY everywhere, then you will know how compromised the scientific establishment is.
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php?article=wxse6f8q - 2 years ago
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rodstradamus
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rodstradamus:
rod, rod, rodstradamus, don't you know when you say the word FREE everybody's brain shuts off? And expecting anybody to be able to conceive of all us living squashed under a Energy Pressure Blanket they can't see is just GOING TOO FAR. Expecting people to accept that we are living under and inside an invisible energy ocean like deepsea fish whew, that neither.
But those who know that pressure of energy could be harnessed hmm, they
might be pretty upset to find out it's being deliberately kept from them. - 2 years ago
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Gravity_Man
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DeliaTheArtist
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Dark energy and dark matter make up the majority of the universe so the more we know about them, the better!
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DeliaTheArtist
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Arson24
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What is the picture trying to say here that the galixies are in dark matter but our telescope is not or what ????
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Arson24
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RojoGatto
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well now that we have discovered it
WTF is it? - 2 years ago
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RojoGatto
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CalPal
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RojoGatto:
whoah, hold your horses, buddy!
they haven't confirmed anything yet... wait until Natural comes out to see if they threw in anything regarding dark matter.
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CalPal
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RojoGatto:
What's "Natural"?
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LibertynJusticeforAll
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A senior editor at Nature has scotched dark matter rumour.
http://www.tgdaily.com/general-sciences-features/45011-ournal-scotches-dark-matt... - 2 years ago
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LibertynJusticeforAll
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CalPal
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LibertynJusticeforAll:
so, it was a hoax?
It's still a bit unclear to me, but it's definetely leaning to that side now...
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urbanwolf
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LibertynJusticeforAll:
I knew it was to good to be true.
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urbanwolf
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mykuh
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Where's the link?
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mykuh
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Where's the link?
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Hurtsville
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This is very relavant as it could lead to numerous things such as sub light engines, anti-gravity cars and hoverboards.
I'm deeply stoked.
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Hurtsville
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Sikander
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Hurtsville:
I'm glad I'm not the only one stoked about hoverboards
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Sikander
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Hurtsville:
I'm stoked about the sub-light engines you mentioned
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dreamsenvoy
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Hurtsville:
indeed,imagine that.
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nickgtc
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Isn't the goal here to find the "God" particle? How the hell do we scientifically study God? Wouldn't that piss him off?
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nickgtc
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nickgtc:
Are you kidding? If not, the "God particle" doesn't literally have to do with God. Sort of like MasterLock doesn't own the other locks. It's just a turn of phrase refering to the Higgs Boson. Experimental detection of the Higgs boson would help explain the origin of mass in the universe.
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nickgtc:
I am not claiming I know what God is, but I do know God is not some dude in the sky that gets pissed about stuff. If that were the case, there would be way more hot chicks everywhere.
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nickgtc:
the God particle has nothing to do with religion, the God particle is what theoretically gives mass to matter.
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nickgtc:
When you get your nails pulled in viet-cong jungle torture house, you KNOW your god is your interrogator. You will hate them at first, but they will teach you how to love them like a father over time.
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mel2
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nickgtc:
descartes, already proved gods existence.
God is a being that holds supreme perfection
existence is a property of perfection
thus god existsnice and simple lol
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Pettigrew