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Fast track to the future

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Fast Track to the Future! (Made in China )

China unveils 'world's fastest train link' - - -

– China on Saturday unveiled what it billed as the fastest rail link in the world -- a train connecting the modern cities of Guangzhou and Wuhan at an average speed of 350 kilometres (217 miles) an hour.

The super-high-speed train reduces the 1,069 kilometre journey to a three hour ride and cuts the previous journey time by more than seven and a half hours, the official Xinhua news agency said.
Work on the project began in 2005 as part of plans to expand a high-speed network aimed at eventually linking Guangzhou, a business hub in southern China near Hong Kong, with the capital Beijing, Xinhua added.

Sat Dec 26, 7:54 am ET
BEIJING (AFP)

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36 comments // Fast track to the future

  • Slim45
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      Slim45  
    • I was just in Europe for two weeks. Beyond knowing what city my hotels were, I deliberately left my itinerary blank. Then I bought a train pass. Every morning, I would leave my hotel in Brussels or Berlin, not knowing if I would be in Paris that morning, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Hamburg, Versailles, or Cologne. Some trains were faster. The TGV and Eurostar trains are really fast. So were the Thalys trains. The German ICE trains were not quite as fast, but at least as fast as Acela trains. I traveled to eight cities in four countries doing that.

      Boy, we are so far behind. It looks like many industrialized nations are moving ahead to high-speed trains. Our continued stubborn adherence to a nineteen century technology known as the internal combustion engine is a recipe for failure.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • Slim45:

      That is because people naively think that they are safer via their own driving than that of a train...which they cannot control. They need to be reminded of how NOT so many train accidents have occurred over th years compared to 45 million car accidents a year. If I am not mistaken trains are even less than planes.

    • 2 years ago
  • remanns
  • 1realone
  • 1DROiD
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      1DROiD  
    • The whiskey thing is funny... i hear ya China is gonna build it for us. Isn't this kinda idea in the Obama plan? i'm all for it i need a job!

    • 2 years ago
  • dewdroppunked
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      dewdroppunked  
    • WOW! That’s cool and convenient but dangerous. If ANYTHING got on the tracks the result would be devastating, but if they found a fool-proof way to make sure the tracks stayed clear like a plastic bubble (like in bubble boy, lol) I'd go on it in a heartbeat.

    • 2 years ago
  • ocanada
  • J_Jammer
  • MirrorLake
  • J_Jammer
  • jac1992
  • magic6435
  • J_Jammer
  • remanns
  • Cook1986
  • magic6435
  • NickerBocker09
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    • President Obama announced near the beginning of his term, a new high speed rail system connecting almost all the US major cities and Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal.

      The first phase will be complete by 2015, and then each phase completed every 5 years, the final being 2030. The trains would go at 220mph, a little bit faster than China's and im sure as technology goes further they can develop an even faster one.

      I havent heard much about it recently but I just looked it up again and apparently it was in the Stimulus package. I recall there being 3 plans, not sure which one they picked but regardless its a huge boost to this country's transportation.

      Heres a link. http://current.com/items/90402747_a-national-high-speed-rail-network-up-and-runn...

    • 2 years ago
  • skatherine
  • artemis6
  • Trauzer
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      Trauzer  
    • NickerBocker09:

      Amazing! This would be truly spectacular. Being from Florida, I've been watching closely the FL high speed rail votes the past few months, but I was unaware it was connected to such a large initiative. I would be all for this happening. I do enjoy trains!

    • 2 years ago
  • Giganticus
  • Minus5scenePoints
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    • Neat. and that also made me think I hope China doesn't ask the U.S for their money back! I don't think they will, ever really. And that's due to how much business we do with them. Thye have to be aware that now, if they asked for a few BILLION dollars from us, that'd distrore us as a country right now.

    • 2 years ago
  • Ihatethemall
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      Ihatethemall  
    • Minus5scenePoints:

      You must be livin in some fantasy world if you dont think china isnt going to want their 800 billion dollars back. WTF would even make you think they are just going to give us that much money. They arent democrats.

      A few billion dollars......what a hoot.

    • 2 years ago
  • treewolf39
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      treewolf39  
    • When the railroads were first built the project was overseen by congress. Contractors were paid by the mile so that the most direct routes were overlooked. The U.S. rail system has always been subsidized by the government making it impossible to become efficient. We can do better.

    • 2 years ago
  • bishopobispo
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      bishopobispo  
    • So we can't get elevated tracks, maglines, or trains in the midwest that run faster than 110mph. Could we at least work on making what we do have a bit more efficient?

      Maybe Amtrak could start by eliminating stops in small towns. I have no idea why a train from St. Louis to Chicago would need to stop in Joliet, Pontiac, Lincoln, Carlinville, and Alton, Illinois.

      When it comes to communal transit, taking a train between the CHI and STL is by far slower than airplane and bus. It's time to catch up Amtrak. Take a lesson from China.

    • 2 years ago
  • Ihatethemall
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    • bishopobispo:

      You do understand that the track is only rated for 77MPH right? In order to go 110 or faster they would need to do some serious upgrading of the tracks. They also run the same rail that the freight runs so there are slow downs for that too. In order to do what others have done they would need to put in thousands of new miles of track. Not saying it could or shouldnt be done. Just saying what they would have to do.

    • 2 years ago
  • bishopobispo
  • loupetho
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      loupetho  
    • Hi magic6435,

      This is an extract from Wikipedia ... "When electricity generation losses are included this becomes 200 watt-hours per passenger-mile, almost 4 times less than the Amtrak estimate. This is in agreement with the independent transportation researcher David Lawyer who finds that trains are approximately 3 times more energy-effective than planes".

      I can step on a train in Paris and be in London in two and a bit hours ... that's door to door ... no transport to airport ... no waiting at airport etc. It's the way to go ... imagine if the US spends it's military budget on this kind of stuff ... plus education, health etc !

    • 2 years ago
  • treewolf39
  • parisinla
  • jac1992
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      jac1992  
    • loupetho:

      All i am going to say about your comment, is that you started your main point with "Here is an extract form Wikipedia"

      Not criticising you, I just really hate the Wiki world.

    • 2 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • ras_menelik
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      ras_menelik  
    • maybe the Chinese will come build it for US and we can buy little red riding books to thank them for taking us on a ride out of the dark-ages

    • 2 years ago
  • magic6435
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      magic6435  
    • I wonder what the fuel usage is compared to a normal jumbo jet that holds between 400 - 500 passengers, this thing carries 1,200. Granted i hate flying so i would love one of these to get back in forth between Detroit and NewYork in like 2 hours or Boston. sigggh one day the US will start investing in railways once again.

    • 2 years ago
  • pjacobs51
  • J_Jammer
  • remanns
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