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GOOGLE -v.s.- CHINA

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Google's China threat is a rare show of defiance

China official's comments on Internet control
Comments follow Google's threat to quit China over censorship and hacking
By Chris Buckley

updated 42 minutes ago
BEIJING - A senior Chinese official told companies to support the government's Internet controls on Thursday, suggesting scant room for compromise with Google after the company threatened to quit China over censorship and hacking.

Here are key quotes from Wang Chen, the minister of the State Council Information Office, who did not mention Google in his comments, which appeared on the office's Web site and in state media. The Information Office is a public relations arm of the Chinese government.

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"China's Internet is entering an important stage of development, confronting both rare opportunities and severe challenges.""The Internet is bringing massive changes to social life, as well as making life much more convenient for many, but at the same time problems with Internet security are increasingly stark."

Wang said the main security problems on the Internet included "the severe threat to the physical and mental health of minors from Internet pornography." He also listed hacker attacks, and Internet viruses and fraud.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34860637/ns/technology_and_science-security/
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-Joe McDonald and Michael Liedtke, AP Business Writers – Wed Jan 13, 4:07 pm
BEIJING –

Google's threat to end its operations in China over censorship and computer-security concerns could embarrass communist leaders who crave international respect. Yet it appears unlikely that many other companies would follow suit and try to change how business is done in China.
"As long as you aren't involved in politics, the media or pornography, the government will leave you alone," said Siva Yam, president of the United States of America-China Chamber of Commerce, which primarily represents U.S. companies in China.
Such high-tech companies as Microsoft Corp. and Cisco Systems Inc. had no comment on Google's announcement Tuesday that it would stop censoring results on its Chinese search engine at Google.cn and might leave the country entirely.
Yahoo Inc. said it was "aligned" with Google's position, though it's not clear what that would mean. Yahoo closed its offices in China several years ago when it sold much of its business there to the Alibaba Group. Yahoo retains a 39 percent stake in Alibaba, and Yahoo spokeswoman Nina Blackwell declined to say whether the company would consider selling its holdings.
Google angered free-speech advocates when it created its China search engine, Google.cn, in 2006 and agreed to exclude links to sites blocked by government filters, popularly known as the Great Firewall of China.
Now Google's decision to confront Beijing might help repair its image.

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8 comments // GOOGLE -v.s.- CHINA

  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • @JohnnySoftware--

      I don't think Google is anything like a monopoly either. At this point I am very very very sorry I chose that graphic to post this. I REPENT! The idea was simply ,...for me,...that Google was/is "PART OF" a big game of financial shuffling and battle for control of "the game". I would change it [the graphic] but I sort of like it. I wish the pdf were still available to download. I would print it up as a poster.

      p.s. Actually,...upon request,....I WILL change it. Slander was not my intention,...and if its taken that way,...then F it. Down it goes.

    • 2 years ago
  • remanns
  • JohnnySoftware
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      JohnnySoftware  
    • Steve Ballmer has announced Microsoft is not leaving China because it is a big market. Microsoft's MSN search engine was already measured as doing a lot of censoring in China. In fact, Yahoo, Google, and MSN were measured censoring the vast majority of results on certain searches in China.

      Microsoft is a software monopoly, Google not a software or search monopoly (80% market share and good ethics does not make you a monopoly).

    • 2 years ago
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • When I posted this,...the top link created itself,.....AND WILL NOT LET ME CHANGE IT. Weird as hell. The "functional" link is below the first block of text. (Sorry,...couldnt get it to edit.) IT IS HOWEVER 'interesting'.

    • 2 years ago
  • JohnnySoftware
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      JohnnySoftware  
    • Google is not a monopoly in any way in China, nor worldwide. China operations bring Google a tiny amount of revenue so far. Google tried to bring users in a big Asian country world-class searching capability. Google has tenaciously held onto its principles of doing good, not evil.

      Some other companies have not really started to do that. In this case, the trigger issue was malicious hacking done to Google mail-users & code repository owners (or users) PCs via a flaw in Adobe Acrobat.

      Google turned info about those crimes over to authorities. Here is info about some of the crimes - http://current.com/items/91898886_google-hackers-targeted-source-code-of-more-th...

      Google's official blog has more information on the reason for Google being infuriated by the hacking. It is a stark difference to the stance banks have taken when their online banking customers get infected with Windows spyware, and subseuqently get _their_ assets infiltrated/taken. Google is at the opposite end of the moral scale. Plus, Google has 80% market share - not 90%. They are not very close to being a monopoly.

      I am digging this article down because the graphic is a slur. I checked, and the image is not even hosted on the site or even the domain where the article is. In fact, instead of linking to that article, the submission links to the google.cn web site.

    • 2 years ago
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • JohnnySoftware:

      When I posted this,...the top link created itself,.....AND WILL NOT LET ME CHANGE IT. Weird as hell. The "functional" link is below the first block of text. (Sorry,...couldnt get it to edit.) IT IS HOWEVER 'interesting".

    • 2 years ago
  • remanns
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • Google could do worse-
      Yahoo once handed over e-mail account information that led to a jail sentence for a writer — prompting U.S. Rep. Tom Lantos to tell Yahoo executives in a congressional hearing that "morally you are pygmies."

    • 2 years ago
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