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Top Kill, List Your Ideas to Solve the BP Oil Leak & Spill

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What are some possible solutions to the BP oil catastrophe? Do you have any? If so list them and lets see where this goes.
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56 comments // Top Kill, List Your Ideas to Solve the BP Oil Leak & Spill

  • Scott_Bridges
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      Scott_Bridges  
    • called BP with my idea: Cut leaking pipe above sand below the BOP. USE LONG LARGER PIPE WITH OUTSIDE EDGES LIKE A OIL DRILLING BIT FOR DIGGING INTO SAND, SPIN OR DRILL THE PIPE OVER EXISTING SMALLER LEAKING PIPE INTO FLOOR OF SAND. AT TOP OF PIPE HAVE ONE OR MORE , SHUT OFF VALVES CONNECTED, LEAVE VALVE OPEN, TO RELEIVE PRESSURE,SPIN OR DRILL DOWN ENOUGH SO LARGER PIPE COVERING LEAKING SMALLER PIPE WOULD GO DOWN 50 TO 200 FEET BELOW THE SURFACE, AND OIL WOULD COME THREW VALVE AT TOP. CONNECT TO SHIP. COULD ALSO HAVE A VAVLE THAT WOULD THREAD ITSELF SO AS YOU DIG DOWN WHEN THE FIRST VALE REACHES THE CUT ORIGINAL PIPE IT WOULD THEN THREAD ITSELF INTO THE CUT PIPE, AS THERE WOULD NO LONGER BE ANY PRESSURE AT THAT POINT OR AREA OF THE PIPE. CHOICES WOULD BE SHUTTING OFF THE VALVES A LITTLE AT A TIME, AS YOU GO UP THE PIPE, SHUTTING THE FIRST ONE JUST ALITTLE AND THE NEXT A LITTLE MORE AND SO FORTH USING 5-10 VALVES OR JUST PUMPING IT INTO THE SHIP

    • 1 year ago
  • Daniel_LaLiberte
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      Daniel_LaLiberte  
    • There may be multiple leaks from deeper in the well hole, in which case any solution at the main vent will result in increasing the pressure on other leaks.

      So I will return to my original idea (before the series of valves idea): Start by pushing a narrow pipe down through the well hole until the end is below any leaking points. (How it is determined where the leaks are is another problem.) Inside this pipe, there will be a device that can be pushed out through the bottom and automatically deployed. This device could be a rod that extends across the diameter of the well hole, for example, or perhaps a springy ring that pushes itself against the sides of the well hole. It only needs to do two things: wedge itself securely in place and block a fraction of the flow.

      Now that we have blocked a fraction of the flow, we can repeat this process several more times to reduce the flow by the sum of all those fractions. Each additional block should reduce the pressure above it, making it easier to add larger blocks.

    • 1 year ago
  • Michael_Addison
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      Michael_Addison  
    • I have a submission for an idea to guide and forcibly insert a device into the well.

      Imagine a radio tower, it has at least 3 supports anchoring it to the ground. Now mount 3 or more anchors to the sea bed, attach multiple cables to each anchor, they would be equidistant from the center of the existing vent. With this foundation, it would distribute the force/weight and be able to wench or pull a device/tower/rod/cap/whatever into or onto the vent itself.

      There are several ideas on how to stop the well, but none on how to guide that device over or into the well.

    • 1 year ago
  • Daniel_LaLiberte
  • Steven_Wenke
  • Steven_Wenke
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      Steven_Wenke  
    • And as far as a "clean cut" goes...there's a bolted flange just a few inches away from the sheared pipe segment. Unbolt it...remove the bad segment...now you have perfectly machined surface in which to attach whatever fixture is needed.

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
  • Steven_Wenke
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      Steven_Wenke  
    • I think JuliusBC's idea has a lot of merit. I submitted a similar idea to BP a few days ago. I have a few suggestions: 1) Add more weight to the probe to overcome the oil pressure, maybe it could be topped with a new BOP? 2) Make some of the seals a "knife-edge" variety, in order to cut into the pipe casing and stay put. 3) Make the probe out of a high thermal expansion metal (copper?), embed heaters into the probe, and turn them on once the probe is firmly in place, causing it to swell and lodge tightly. Hopefully then the knife edge seals will cut into the casing to permanently seal.

    • 1 year ago
  • Richard_Lane
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      Richard_Lane  
    • A relatively simple and inexpensive way to stop crude oil from escaping from the
      BP offshore well-head is to explode a "bunker buster" type bomb that can be
      lowered to a strategic position just above the opening and detonated by remote control located on a safely positioned ship, boat or low flying aircraft.

      The bomb would literally pulverize hundreds of tons of soil and seabed material in the immediate vicinity and gravity would do what gravity is famous for doing, i.e., it would attempt to drive the debris towards the center of the earth and in
      doing so it would unquestionably seal the hole drilled by BP operators.

      Any loss of sea life in the immediate vicinity would pale by comparison with
      the disastrous losses that have already occurred.

    • 1 year ago
  • Joe_Raines
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      Joe_Raines  
    • How much it weighs is probably crucial along with the taper of the seals.I don't think they have had good success with a clean cut or shear on any pipes they've already done.I think the cleaness of the cut would seriously matter too.It may come to a point we don't get another chance to cut the pipe with success when we finally cut it to the seabed floor...

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
    • Joe_Raines:

      You are absolutely correct on every point here.

      What I envision is in order for them to cut the pipe with any level of precision they must use a different process than what has been used so far. The blowout preventer (BOP) needs to have an adequate upward tension in order to keep it pulling away from the saw. This can be done by either or a combination of both of the following.

      Obviously the easiest but least desirable way is by connecting to it with a ship and crane from above. However, I am not certain, but I think this is what they did when cutting the pipe, unless they were suspending the pipe by use of a submersible. The problem with using a ship is the up and down, side to side motion of the waves that impact the ship even if they are minute. (The submersible is obviously far from adequate). This can be compensated perhaps by using a bungee or coiled spring type of apparatus connected between the ship and the cables that go to the bottom. This would still be fairly unsatisfactory due to the probable movement. If the tension is fairly extreme so the upward pressure always exceeds and compensates for any of the intermittent downward motion of the ship then it might work.

      The second option and probably the more preferred, would be to have cables attached to the BOP and on the upper end have it connected to a flotation device that is a few hundred feet below the surface of the ocean. Essentially, it would need to be capable of lifting much more weight than the BOP and cables combined. Having it far enough below the surface should eliminate much if not all of the wave effect. They would still want to connect this flotation device to a ship above which would serve the function of a tag-line putting some pressure to one and only one direction causing a slight pull or angle.

      This tag-line would be much like the concept of cutting down a huge tree. They would want to make a partial cut through the pipe on one side; this would be the same side in which the direction of the tag-line pulls. After this initial, partial cut is made, approximately half way through, they would then add the tag-line and create some directional pull. A bungee or spring device is needed between the ship and the tag-line as well.

      The next step would be to put the saw on the opposite side of the existing cut and proceed to cut the rest of the way through the pipe. The directional pull of the tag-line would tip the BOP away from the saw blade as the cut nears the finish. This would eliminate any binding or pinching of the blade like what was experienced on the pipe they cut previously. The lift of the flotation device would lift and separate the BOP from the well casing and the saw blade as the BOP begins to tilt in the direction of the tag-line. Once separated, the flotation device would lift the BOP up until the flotation device surfaces.

      The pipe or well casing may need to be cut a second time to true up the surface as well as the angle. However, due to the environment, distance and method of cutting this pipe, I would highly suggest the design of a device that will assist them in this cutting process. This device needs to be such that it can be clamped around the well casing and robust enough to meet the task. It would be sort of a C-clamp design for ease of installation; much like that of a pair of hand-cuffs. It would need to be able to clamp tight enough so that it will maintain its position on the well casing without slipping. The saw would have the ability to travel (360 degrees+) around this C-clamp device. This apparatus would force the saw to make a straight cut by holding the saw at a true 90 degree angle to the well casing in any direction around its circumference. The saw is actually attached to the C-clamp on a track which will only allow it to go clockwise or counter-clockwise in a circular but lateral direction. The C-clamp needs to be configured so it can be attached and removed by the submersibles. It may need a pull pin in the configuration to insure its release as a backup or fail-safe. Once this has been done the rod should be able to be installed.

    • 1 year ago
  • Joe_Raines
  • JuliusBC
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
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    • This is an updated version of my initial concept posted somewhere below approximately in the middle.

      They need to cut the Blowout preventer off from the top of the well and lower the rod into the well casing. Remember this rod is approximately 25 feet long and just under 2 feet in diameter just below the ball valve. This rod is extremely heavy which is what will overcome the oil pressure from the well. The tolerance of the outside diameter just below the ball valve is just a few hundredths of an inch smaller than the inside diameter of the well casing. This is what creates the seal. A one degree taper is suggested on the diameter that extends below the ball valve. This will assist in the resizing of the well casing and to help eliminate any rough edges that may protrude into the pipe or casing.

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
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    • This is an updated version of my initial concept posted somewhere below approximately in the middle.

      They need to cut the Blowout preventer off from the top of the well and lower the rod into the well casing. Remember this rod is approximately 25 feet long and just under 2 feet in diameter just below the ball valve. This rod is extremely heavy!

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
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    • This is an updated version of my initial concept posted somewhere below approximately in the middle.

      They need to cut the Blowout preventer off from the top of the well and lower the rod into the well casing. Remember this rod is approximately 25 feet long and just under 2 feet in diameter just below the ball valve. This rod is extremely heavy!

    • 1 year ago
  • pecan757
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      pecan757  
    • My idea isn't as high tech as others..Why not clamp off the end and re-route the line.....and better yet not consult with a surgeon(s). They may offer some "surgical" techniques that can be applied mechanically to stop the flow of oil.

    • 1 year ago
  • VCP
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      VCP  
    • I have been in the Oil business for 30 years, we use a tool called a self tapping carrot plug. We plug holes on pipes and tanks as an emergency procedure. These have worked well for us. These carrot plugs are made with supper hard steel with fine self tapping threads. I believe one can be made to fit the BOP with a 5 to 6 " service hole to flow oil upward, once the carrot plug is in the BOP you start turning it to make threads on the BOP. Along with that, about 5ft above you put a relieve valve to keep the pressure down while threading the carrot plug to the BOP. I truly believe this will work! Contact me if you would like a drawing to review. Please HURRY OIL SPILL IS GETTING WORSE!

    • 1 year ago
  • Joe_Raines
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      Joe_Raines  
    • VCP:

      VCP ...I swear you are spot on.....I spoke with an engineer that works for EOG and he seemed to think there was to much pressure from this artesian oil geyser.He sort of blew me off and said it's not his companys problem....He also said they do not do any deep well diging...I swear it is only logical yhat this way with the carrot plug and an oil release port to connect to when it is installed just makes perfect sense to me..Are you in contact with BP at all.......Dude you gotta' get that out there to them......

    • 1 year ago
  • Joe_Raines
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      Joe_Raines  
    • VCP:

      JuliusBC also has this same idea but his idea was with O=rings to hold it in place.This self tapping carrot top seems ideal.I see a mangled cut on that geyser pipe opening though...Could make it way hard to insert it..The pipe is for sure not round anymore......

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
    • Joe_Raines:

      Actually, the o-rings probably wouldn't hold up and the seals are somewhat questionable as getting them into the pipe past the jagged edge would be sketchy. However, the addition of the o-rings and/or seals serves no function of holding the rod in place. Their function is solely to help seal the possible space left between the rod and the well casing.

      The only thing that will hold this rod in place is the effect of gravity due to the massive weight of the rod. It will be in the well casing vertically and it can weigh up to several tons. The tapered design is for ease of insertion and to allow the oil and pressure to by-pass as the rod is lowered down into the well casing. Once the larger diameter of the rod (where the seals are located) reaches the top of the well casing it will act as a resizing die to force the well casing back into a round shape. Any deformities and/or jagged edges that protrude into the inside diameter of the pipe or casing will be forced off or made smooth.

      The weight and the tolerance of the rod are most significant to the effectiveness of my idea. The O-rings or seals will probably serve very little to no purpose at all. They may help if the tolerance is a bit loose but I am talking a few hundredths of an inch. The outside diameter of the rod needs to be built close to the same tolerance of the inside diameter of the well casing. A one degree taper on the final diameter of the rod wouldn't be a bad idea as this would aid in the re-sizing and sealing effect.

      The flow through design has two advantages as it will allow the oil and pressure to by-pass more freely. Once the rod is in place the valves can then be closed to shut the flow off or they can attach to it and pump their oil or both. If there is some seepage past the outside of the rod they can pump a bunch of ground up or shredded old tires and cotton mop heads down through the rod and into the well. Once they have pumped a fair amount then shut off the valve and this stuff will be forced towards the seeping areas. This debris will get jammed and the seal will be final. They can once again open the valves once they have attached to the end of it with the appropriately configured fittings and proceed with pumping their oil.

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
  • Patrick_Heckenlaible
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      Patrick_Heckenlaible  
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    • Drydock an old 50 to 60k ton tanker, modify flat hull with containment structure as per diagram, perform level and controlled sinking over Deepwater Horizon well using GPS and multi-anchor system, close (ram type) shear guides around well-head, receive oil at surface or pump cement down to seal. Preperation time required approx 10 days to 2 weeks working 24/7. no leaks and no permeation of oil into seabed. All technology required already available. worth a try?

    • 1 year ago
  • pravdiv
  • Chris_L
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      Chris_L  
    • Perhaps the methane-hydrate crystals aspect could be alleviated by using ultrasound to break-up/dissolve them? There would also be a slight heating effect.

    • 1 year ago
  • Matthew_Forgues
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      Matthew_Forgues  
    • cut the pipe and have a cap with a big steal lid and weld the cap on before you close it and it would be a quick fix, you can also weld another pipe on after and then open it.

    • 1 year ago
  • Joe_Raines
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      Joe_Raines  
    • How about an insert grommet that can be tightened to expand and apply outward pressure to the inside walls of the pipe. It could work like a freeze plug grommet that you use on a car engine when a freeze plug blows out.I am sure it would have to be enginered with special sides on the grommet that would stick and be very rough to grip the sidewalls of the pipe.The grommet would also probably have to be long enough to grip a large bite into the inside of the pipe.I understand about the pressure at those depthe,but I just thought I'd offer my idea,and I am bt no means an engineer,but I am the king of fix it with what you have to use on hand.......

    • 1 year ago
  • Ron_Huggard
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      Ron_Huggard  
    • Pressures at this depth is enormous, maybe as much as 10,000 psi, or more, that kind of pressure will cut steel. No expoxy or paste would harden in time without blowing out first. Placing mud in the hole, I have to wonder if kids are running the show down there. The leaker has to be shut off with a valve capable of handling this pressure. A pipe a little bigger than the leaking pipe and several feet long with such a valve on the end could be placed over the leaking pipe with the valve open. Once the pipe is over the leaker, weld it in place while keeping the valve open to not create pressure. Once welded solid, close the valve SLOWLY to prevent awesome hammer and case closed.

    • 1 year ago
  • Daniel_LaLiberte
  • Harold_Rhodes
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      Harold_Rhodes  
    • I'm sure this has been thought of, but in case it hasn't her goes. If its possible to pick up the sunken oil rig thats 1500 ft away, it could then be moved and placed over the leak using just one of the massive 4 legs of the rig as a bell cap. It's already down there, cant we figure out a way to put it to good use? Its designed to compensate for buoyancy, has it completely lost that ability at 35k+ feet deep? I think that this rig could serve one last purpose. How apropos it would be.

    • 1 year ago
  • Mike_Dason
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      Mike_Dason  
    • What about using the original unit that they lowered down to cover the well and pump it full with the concrete that they use in pilings for bridges. The concrete thats sets in water. It may not completely shut the system down, but it should slow it down enough to drill the relief well.

    • 1 year ago
  • David_Reck
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      David_Reck  
    • One more thought. Thses pipes are very very long (miles long) carring the oil to the surface as we know because the platforms are floating and held in place by GPS driven devices. Could you not pick up this pipe and at least bring it closer to the surface where it is more manageable, perhaps where divers can get to it or submersibles can work more efficiently?

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
    • David_Reck:

      The pipes are connected and go down an amazing distance. I have seen numbers but I don't know how accurate they are. I think I read something about 15,000 feet. I honestly don't know. So no, they can't actually pick up the pipe.

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
    • David_Reck:

      Much of the information any of us get is sketchy at best but from what I have been told, the 20,000 psi is from out of the well. The pressure from the depth of the water is pretty high but I don't know what that is. The rod can either be solid stainless steel or it could be hollow. If it is hollow, then it needs to be longer so the loss in weight would be regained. The weight will force the rod into the well pipe and cause it to seat. This would seal the well as there would be no place for the oil to pass.

    • 1 year ago
  • David_Reck
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      David_Reck  
    • In addition I wanted to add. The relative "ease" of puting this cupling in place as you have so well demonstrated tonight. You are not working with or against the high pressure and velocities of the oil leak pushing your mud around or as Julius here thinks you can actually stuff a rod in it like putting kleenex in a bloody nose. The cylindrical cupling is hinged at the bottom and closes at the top via hydraulic wrenchs, screw shaped devices that pull the device together. The circular saw is rotated by high pressure hydraulic motors perhaps. Listen if they can cut off the nose of a sunkin Russian Nuclear submarine you can cut through this stuff. What ever you decide to use as a sealant, pressure alone should force the cement into the realatively small seems if you have matched your components to the dimesions of the pipe. This is CRITICAL! The tubes or pipes with the sealent can be attached to the device before you send it down or more difficult injected from above via long pipes.

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
    • David_Reck:

      Actually, my idea is if they decide to cut off the Blowout preventer that sits above the well which then would expose the raw shaft into the well. It is vertical without any bends or debris. The rod I have shown is tapered so it will allow the oil pressure to bypass the rod initially upon insertion. Once it has entered the pipe the weight of the rod is more than adequate to overcome any of the oil pressures being exerted as it is approximately 20 to 25 feet long and about 21 inches in diameter at the sealing end. The well pipe will guide the rod accordingly down the throat of it due to the telescoping shape of the rod. Once it bottoms out the seal will be complete. The well will be plugged permanently and It still has the ability to be removed if needed.

      I am not sure what kind of sealant you would use to seal 20,000 psi with as it would blow out long before it had a chance to even get to it's destination let alone to cure. Putting sealant around a door jam doesn't even last that long and it is easily accessed and under a far less aggressive environment.

    • 1 year ago
  • David_Reck
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      David_Reck  
    • After observation of tonights video it is apparent that you are able to grab this pipe. Because of the pressures involved you should not cut or snip this pipe at this time. You should be able to surround the pipe with a large cupling hinged at the bottom, sort of like the device you are using but wider and cylindrical in shape. C-SHAPED. The center of the cupling should have a slot open all the way through the center of the device to insert a circular saw blade. The inner diameter should match the outer diameter of the pipe. Once in place you need to use the circular saw and cut through the pipe leaving the blade in place to become part of the "valve" to seal the pipe. The blade itself should be the same diameter as the cupling. Once the pipe is cut, do not withdrawl the blade as it will be used as part of the sealing process. Then inject into the cupling an epoxy cement or some cement like chemical to bond the whole device together and seal any minimal amount of leaking oil. The injectors can also be attached to the cylindrical cupling as well. This will work.

    • 1 year ago
  • Ron_Huggard
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      Ron_Huggard  
    • Insert a bag like fire stations use to lift heavy items into the 19” pipe deflated. This would probably have to be built stronger still due to the pressure. Anyway before inflating, insert a "jaws of life" type of 3 way spreader above the bag and have it open to wedge itself into the pipe and can't be pushed out. Now inflate the bag through hydraulics and it will seal the pipe and can't come out due to the wedge above it. From the pictures, the water pressure at this depth is almost equal to the oil pressure and this insertion could be done!

      I think we need to avoid any explosives as this could cause the pipe to be damaged so badly to be unable to seal in the future as well as softening the ground and it also wouldn't seal again. This could maybe even cause the ground to break away above the oil reserve below and it would ALL come out at once, a real disaster.

    • 2 years ago
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
    • This is just an "off the cuff" idea. They cut off the Blowout preventer that sits above the well which gives them a straight shot down the well. Next they take a huge rod made of what ever metal is applicable, (perhaps stainless steel), and lower it down into the hole. This metal rod is telescoped in design so that it is smaller on the tip and gradually graduated into a larger diameter. The final diameter is fairly close tolerance to that of the well pipe. This end of the metal rod has a series of O-rings that will help to seal the final stages. The top of the rod will basically have an oversize head on it so it will stop the rod from descending any further down the well than is desired. The rod is heavy enough to overcome any pressures being exerted by the oil from below. This would be a permanent fix and the cost should be relatively inexpensive as compared to the all of the other attempts they have made. Once they have a proven method to re-attach to the well and continue pumping oil if so desired, they could re-connect to the giant ring on top of this rod and pull the plug to the well and re-connect.

    • 2 years ago
  • JuliusBC
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
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    • JuliusBC:

      Updated version with flow through rod if BP can't do anything without some oil harvesting involved with what ever they do.

      Upon further thought, if bridging is a problem caused by freezing hydro-carbonates then the flow through tube would actually be better with four to five fluted runs up the perimeter of the lower diameters. The flutes would port into the rod once the top larger diameter is reached. This would actually be easier to build anyway. I can't draw it with paint to show it in the diagram. The ball valve housing is roughly shown but the valve is not included in the drawings.

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
  • Joe_Raines
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      Joe_Raines  
    • JuliusBC:

      JuliusBC Have you seen a response from VCP. He actually named your device needed it was called a carrot top plug..I also believe your idea and his idea are the same.I spoke with an Eog engineer today and he thaought there may be an awful large amount of oil flow from this artesian style oil geyser..but then again his company dosen't do any deep well drilling..I think BP needs this carrot top shoved up their a""es.BP needs to get this plan into operation.It just seems far too logical......

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
    • Joe_Raines:

      I read VCP's comment last night. It sounds to be quite similar. I have heard that a screw type of idea may not work because the case is quite hard. Supposedly it would take three weeks to drill a hole through it. They took somewhere in the neighborhood of 24 hours to cut that pipe off last week using a diamond tipped saw and the pipe really wasn't that big.

      I believe the current situation with BP is that they are unable to properly address the issue at this point in time. I am heavily leaning to the idea that they are trying to get the two relief wells drilled to the side to pull off much of the pressure and oil. Once those wells are in place then they can approach a more plausible solution to what is actually going on below. Currently, the flow is somewhat restricted comparatively to what it would be if the well were completely open where it enters the ocean from the ocean floor. All of the apparatuses, (up-riser, and broken pipe and now the pipe they cut off), above are responsible for the current leaks. They will need to cut all of that stuff off in order for my idea to work.

      As of right now they can't contain it because the pressure is too extreme. The leaks are all connected and if you plug one the other becomes more pressurized and nothing is actually gained. They fear causing other leaks to appear if the pressure is contained. Consequently, the spill or leakage will be increased. I think this helps to explain their hesitancy on so many other seemingly plausible options.

      Today, I was watching a short piece on CNN where Bill Nye "the science guy" was discussing some of the current concerns of BP. He pointed out that they are concerned that the well casing that is below the ocean floor is also cracked or broken. This is why they are hesitant to plug the current leaks. They fear that if it is plugged off the pressure will push the well casing up out of the ground and then the leak will be impossible to stop. It sounds possible but is it fact or fiction? Time will tell.

      This is where my idea is more applicable to this application if in fact this fear is legitimate. This is why. If the pressure is so great that it would lift the plug and a section of the pipe out of the well then my suggestion will overcome that. My idea is not using the concept of creating threads inside of the well casing but rather using tolerance, friction and gravity. If my plug is built heavy enough it can and will overcome any pressure from below. This weight would not allow the pressure to lift either the rod or the well casing out of the hole. Thus the seal would be in place and set once and for all.

      My idea can't be used until they cut everything off from above the well casing. This is what will give then the vertical shot down the well and this is when they can use what they have to their advantage (gravity). My rod idea can be made as long as necessary to accumulate whatever weight it needs to be as it is unlimited. If by chance they don't make it heavy enough they can pull it and add more length to make it heavier. I suggest a bit of overkill is warranted initially.

      In the end, no matter what method they use or what it is called, it basically equates to "corking the bottle". So the question is, what cork will work and when can they best do it? Success is the only acceptable option.

    • 1 year ago
  • Joe_Raines
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      Joe_Raines  
    • JuliusBC:

      I agree with the other wells being drilled to help alleviate oil flow pressure...I also see your point about the rest of the rigging needs to be cut away to access one main casing pipe.Yes the only solution is success,I wonder how this oil will effect our global oceanic conveyor belt..This could be the beginning of the end & I am not a doomsday scenario type person.....

    • 1 year ago
  • JuliusBC
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      JuliusBC  
    • Joe_Raines:

      I don't believe it will be the beginning to an end of the planet or human race but it is going to most definitely be an end to much of the culture and wildlife/marine life that is in that area. The possibilities of these pollutants being carried to other parts of the world are quite high as the gulf stream plays a huge role in the ocean currents and temperatures of the ocean. We are already experiencing global warming and this can only share in that event. Our ecosystem is under attack by both which will impact everyone on a global scale. Some of the effects are already being witnessed. This leak needs to be stopped as soon as possible and the clean up and containment of the spill is urgent.

    • 1 year ago
  • ANewPath
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      ANewPath  
    • First of all, think of all of the diamonds they distroy to increase the value of the remaining diamonds....

      Now my solution, a giant cone shape device which will be lowered down to the hole and forced into place by an explosion above it jamming it into place this cone will have a central shaft which will direct the oil straight up in a controlled manner whereby allowing leverage on the flow of oil. Little by little the device will settle. As we drive it further down with more force it will secure an anchor to the ground in which we may attach an adaptor either slid into place by tracks propelled by rockets. By the way that's slot of power we have the opportunity to harness, imagine how much electricity that would produce if we were to install a turbine to slow down the oil by turning it. Can we make a success out of it?!

      Further if you drill into the same well from a closeby location successfully would that not reduce the pressure to then insert said cone with controlled central shaft. Slowly the leak could be harnessed to controllabe manner. Scary to allow them to do it again and I don't know how long it would take but drilling a cometing hole would possibly allow for manipulation of the underneath area if we could put something into the source to stop the flow of neighboring leak??? Just brainstorming here and I'm not scientist but feedback anyone?

    • 2 years ago
  • JuliusBC
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    • ANewPath:

      They are currently drilling two relief wells a bit of a distance away from the current one to help relieve the pressure. The problem is that they say it will take til August before it is completed. My hunch is they will more than likely take much longer. In the meantime the oil continues to spew into the ocean.

    • 2 years ago
  • pravdiv
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      I can support this idea, adding some details.

      It is possible to use as a giant cone an old, second hand ship - oil transporter - 100x30x10 meters (30,000 tones), it is easy to find.
      (http://www.maritimesales.com/Ships%20for%20Sale.htm - 1-2 millions of dollars)

      Mounting in the center of this old ship a 10meters diameter vertical tube with a special stop mechanism on the bottom (under the bottom) of the ship. (after the sinking and rotating this end of the tube will go on the top)

      After we call the specialized staff (such as one used for the rising of the KURSK nuclear submarine - such as Dutch companies Mammoet and Smit International using the barge Giant 4 - also rises Mighty Servant 3) to add balloons on the both side of the ship, and under strict control to empty the left side balloons. This way, after we fill the ship with water, the ship will turn at 90 degree with the left side down. Using long strong steel cables, driving by additional power ships, it is possible to rotate the ship with bottom- up and to start slowly to direct it to sink down, slowly empty the balloons (or fill the balloons with water).
      The specialized staff is well trained to clime up this kind of ships, so this will be the vice versa case for them.

      After the ship will sink down it will completely cover the oil tube output and the oil and gas will start to go up and go-out form the central installed 10m diameter steel tube in the center of the ship.
      (the regulator - stopping oil mechanism now will be on the top of the bottom of the ship - staying on the bed of the sea - upside-down

      Than - 2 additional big transporter ship with cement and concrete will fill the sank ship with heavy concert with stones and when 10,000 tones will be inside - than the central tube can be closed and locked.

      I am sure, these 10,000 tones concrete and additional about 10,000 tones of the ship itself weight will stop totally the oil flow, and the oil will stay inside the central tube and will go out only when the output mechanism will be open.

      The oil will be captured. Than in the future some additional pipes can be added on the output of the central tube to catch the oil to the surface and to use this source for the oil production.

      Dip. Eng. Alexandar Balevsky

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
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  • 20secmacgruber
  • wynndc
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    • I think they should create a 90 degree L shaped sleeve with a super thick heavy duty rubber ring attached to one end slightly inside. Then a hydraulic hose attached to the ring that extended to the service. Then float the sleeve, rubber end side over the broken pipe. Inflate the rubber ring with the hydraulic fluid so that it fastens tightly around the end of the broken pipe, forcing the leak through the sleeve. On the other end of the L shaped sleeve attach a long hose that extends to the service, in to a tanker.

    • 2 years ago
  • Wesnology61
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    • I've just figured out the solution to the oil spill if dumping mud on it doesn't plug it up. Jack Bauer just finished his last day of work on Monday, lets bring him in to stop the leak. America once again is facing a great threat and we need Jack's help! And if BP is wanting to shut the cameras off to the view of the leak they can charge payperview rates for people can watch Season 9 of 24. It's a win win situation BP recoups some of its losses we get to see Jack save the day again. Bc i'm sure there was a terrorist plot behind this, N Korea prob shot a nuke into the erupting volcano in Iceland thereby sending shockwaves throughout the magma in the earths core which forced excess pressure to the oil rig in the gulf causing the blowout. Its simple science people! Am I only one that sees this! CTU, Jack we need your help! :)

    • 2 years ago
  • JuliusBC
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