Chinese Missile Could Shift Pacific Power Balance
source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100805/ap_on_re_as/as_china_us_carrier_killer
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1) Severe food and resource shortages for the majority of people in both countries.
2) Heavy casualties on the battlefield and high seas.
3) Unpredictable refugee migrations which would disrupt the lives of nations allied with either country.
4) Long-term environmental damage.
5) The end of international Internet communications as a result of both countries destroying satellites, and, as a result, a return to pre-1990 conditions in terms of communications.
6) Human misery on a scale not seen since the Second World War.
What can we do to prevent such conflict from taking place? Since American public opinion is devalued in China (as a result of heavy Chinese government censorship and organized propaganda), Americans with ties to Chinese citizens must reach out more to strengthen the ties of common interest and friendship. Americans must press their military leaders to become more innovative and adaptable in facing new forms of threats from China and other nations. This must include reassessment of the top-heavy and bloated American military-industrial complex which does not currently provide us with a reliable defense system. We must also become more self-sufficient in producing our own food, clothing, and shelter, so that if the nation's infrastructure is destroyed, we can survive to fight on.
War is an obscenity, and planning for war is a sickening and disheartening task; however, those who refuse to face real threats end up imprisoned, enslaved, or dead.
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morehead163
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Hey guys what a black humor, what if a super force equipped with mass destruction weapons cruising arround south florida or east/west coast?
What is your thought? Maybe the super force will say US missile could shift pacific power balance?galwayman ayipis
you know the history of tibet? If your logic is correct ,why don`t you say russian invaded far east asia?
At least i know the population of current tibetans is 3 million and there was no massacre in tibet.
Tibetans Vs Native Americans what happend to them?
What a disgusting white supremacy! - 1 year ago
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I believe America is on the verge of being financially shut out by the other Superpowers (Russia/China). If they want War, it's over. We in the South learned a painful lesson in manufacturing capacity. China could easily throw a million troops on an ''objective'', backed by the largest manufacturing network in the World. War at our level is simple mathmatics.
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War is not happening, lessons were learned in the previous world wars. But Americans need to understand that they will not be the worlds' biggest country in a few decades from now. I don't think China will be an aggressive country, they are only focused on getting more developed.
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Pedroptz:
Dang man, we better start boning [up on colonial law if we're going to be an outlying colony of China]. What Rights do we retain and which Rights do we lose? Does it help us if we claim ourselves to be a satellite store? Do we get extra extra credit for having more Wal-Marts? How many children are the Chinese going to allow us to have and what age do we have to be to have them? What kind of paid health care can we expect from our new & glorious Leaders?
Can we keep our currency with the pyramid thingy & the eyeball?
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Gravity_Man:
Is the US doing that to China now? Because that seems to be your logic.
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Gravity_Man
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That's Nuthin. We have a troop transport plane that does not use fuel so we can strap parachutes on all of you guys and drop ya wherever we need ya. Without wasting fuel on you.
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ayipis
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Military build up is always good business..come on guys..why would china want to mess around with us?? we are pretty good cash cows..
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ArchDruid:
During the police action in Korea 200,000 Chinese troops invaded to support North Korea this invasion took place on Christmas Eve 1951,they killed a ton of American and UN troops as they weren't prepared and the Chinese had them outnumbered! Also look at what the Chinese have done in Tibet! So the Chinese have invaded a country in the last 50 years so you are wrong!
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ArchDruid:
Tibet, Korea...wait its been over 50 years.
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ayipis
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ArchDruid:
china invaded tibet and still in tibet..still violating rights..Tibet is still waiting for the UN
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ArchDruid:
How is that even remotely relevant to a discussion about weapons systems and balance of forces ?
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ArchDruid:
You're right was concentrating on the China part of your Question,however for the US we can start with Vietnam, Cambodia,Chile,Panama,Iraq,Cuba[failed that time lol],North Korea,[till the Chinese drove them out],it is a long list and most nation building pure and simple,so if you are keeping score the US list is much longer,but I'd rather not have seen us become a communist country, just as I don't want us to become an Islamic one,or a corporate dictatorship! I stand for the freedom for every reasonable person to have the right to determine for themselves their own life's course,without government interference! none of the above political systems allow that as we are now finding out here in the US,where the rights granted us by the Constitution are being taken from us! I exempt Islam from this as they are pure evil! The Chinese on the other hand have to have a balance of power,but this new weapon,and the ICBM's they have capable of hitting anywhere in the US go over the line,and while communism for now is a sleeping dragon it is still a dragon capable of mass destruction and are capable of using these weapons if pushed into it!
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galwayman:
1951 eh? December you say? They were obviously trying to prevent the world from learning I had been born one month earlier (11/26). Psst! Hey Buddy. Pass me some more of those megalomania pills they're GREAT.
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ArchDruid:
I'm not saying your geopolitical point cant be debated on its merits,.....but this a discussion of arms types and quantities and relative strengths and utility of the forces ; it doesn't matter what the character and motives of the powers in control of the respective military forces are, they could both be nihilistic fascists ,...it simply is NOT germane to the focus of the discussion.
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remanns:
"Hit n run back stab voters" struck again. Care to name yourself ?
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The pentagon has known about this for quite some time...and I don't think they have been sitting on their hands, waiting for american sailors to be tits deep in the south china sea before responding.
I suspect this scenario might be why they are currently pouring funds into lasers...strap one of those babies on a carrier and china will have to retire their carrier busters...
when they get it to travel faster than light then Taiwan is fucked...
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Sexirobot:
I agree. +^d
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remanns
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Still waiting for the anti-anti-anti-missile-missile myself.
p.s.-------this is humor - 1 year ago
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remanns
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M.A.D. --- all you have to do remain prepared to die.
( simple really )
p.s. while this is "dark humor",...the principal is entirely serious,...and the statement was meant entirely seriously.
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remanns
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rofl even china is outsourcing the production on its products... oh wait...
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tommic
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Chinese military power is going to be to blunt the military presence of the United States in the far east theater. I doubt war will come out of it. The Chinese have way to much to lose now. Hong Kong is still the financial capital of the far east.
The Chinese leaders are savy people they understand the world better than most. I have several freinds who work there and one who has invested heavily in cell phone technology in China, he's the guy that enabled Chinese people with cell phones to use them like a credit card or cash when they shop. The Chinese want our technology plain and simple - 1 year ago
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MrMxyzptlk:
durrrrr. but to think that the Chinese are not our equal technologically is foolish at best.
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MrMxyzptlk:
China doesnt create technology they steal it or buy it usually.
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MrMxyzptlk:
Not entirely true. Aircraft Carriers project power about the globe,...and ships can blockade and sink oil tankers.
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Tyr
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As the Roman general Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus said " Si vis pacem, para bellum" when translated means..., "If you wish for peace, prepare for war"
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Nephwrack
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hopefully we can weaponize THC before it's too late to save the world from hate.
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Nephwrack:
now that's an idea. did you see this animation? 'Watch: What a Legal Pot Economy Would Look Like' It's fantastic. Cheers,
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Nephwrack:
THC is a weapon..it renders the person...stupid
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Deltone
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Has anyone ever see a Sci-Fi movie called Serenity? The future scape suggests a merger of the two super powers rather than a conflict. Everything from language, architecture, culture and race become one in the same. I think this future scenario is much more plausible simply because both nations are smart enough to know that a war on this scale would surely doom us all. And yes, between the US and China we are fully capable of destroying all of the worlds satellites in a matter of days.
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Deltone:
probably what will happen.
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galwayman
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General MacArthur was right! we should have invaded China during the "police Action' in Korea they had no nukes then and Russia would not have entered the war on China's side like Truman and his advisors thought! If we had this problem wouldn't exist! Communist China is a bigger threat then Communist Russia ever was,and are much more likely to use nukes against us!
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galwayman
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galwayman:
Why is China such a big threat?
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Nephwrack
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we would be foolish to underestimate china as a military power.
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Nephwrack:
We should only be scared of them in a numbers scenario. Most of their shit is trash, our weapons systems are way way in front of them.
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Satellites are not used for 99% of the Internet, undersea Fiber and cell towers.
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toyotabedzrock:
Thank you.
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toyotabedzrock:
However, our cellphones would be f-ed to shit.
You're still right, though, and thankfully, that shouldn't be a problem... well, as long as any natural disaster doesn't destroy those cables.
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CalPal
