Nissan Leaf's Polar Bear Ad Might Make You Want To Cry (VIDEO)

wtf! this however is good propaganda

Might work in NYC, and big citiest, but small rural towns are always going to need to drive their pickups.

Well, you better equip your house with solar panels before you buy it, or you're still burning coal. Not to mention the fact that the battery in the Nissan Leaf is baically an upfront carbon footprint, since the process of making it is highly toxic... and disposing of it is near impossible without a major environmental impact.

Electric cars are not the answer. I used to think they were. We need smarter cities and better public transportation. The world of the future can't have 9 billion people all trying to get around in separate vehicles that run on energy from coal plants, can they? Our population gets higher, and more people get cars, which means more traffic, which means more waste, etc. etc.

Also... here's a quote about the Leaf's battery:

"At issue is the fact that the LEAF uses air cooling for its batteries, while Tesla uses a superior liquid heating/cooling thermal management solution. By opting for the cheaper air cooling, Musk says Nissan's battery temperatures will be "all over the place". Worse yet, he says that they will undergo "huge degradation" at colder temperatures, and literally "shut off" at warmer ones. Competitor GM has stated that its 2011 Chevy Volt EV may have similar issues."

and if COST is the issue, then check this out:

"The Nissan LEAF costs $32,780k and is supposed to have a 42 kWh battery pack and 100 mi range. 80,000 miles means 800 recharges. It can be charged to full in 20 hours @ 120 V and 20 Amps, which is 48 kWh (87.5% charging efficiency). To get the overnight electricity rates, you will need the 8 hour 240 V 40 Amp charger (54.7% charging efficiency) which consumes 76.8 kWh to charge the pack. At $0.06/kWh, 800 charges to full will cost you $3686.40.

Looking at similar compact gasoline cars, I'll compare to the Civic since it's the most popular car in the size class, expensive (helps the LEAF out in the comparison), and gets about average gas mileage for the class. 25 city, 36 highway, call it 30 MPG average. Costs $16,255. Over 80,000 miles it will burn 2667 gallons, which at $3 gal will cost $8000.

So @ 80k miles, the LEAF has cost you $32,780 + $3686.40 = $36,466. The Civic has cost you $16255 + $9600 = $25,855. It's only after you factor in the $7500 federal tax credit, a $1500 state tax credit, and factor in $3000 for maintenance costs on the Civic that the break-even point is at 80k miles."

Don't buy the bullshit! Riding the bus is still better than making an investment with these asshole companies trying to sell you salvation in pandora's box.

exactly. electricity is not clean if it is produced from coal or nuclear power.

Just do a little research and you'll see that its still a less wasteful then your full gas or hybrid. Even if its using coal its still 30mpg vs 300 mpg with the full eletric, and in some places you can opt for wind and solar energy, we just need to demand it more and start the green economy!

nuclear power is clean, but the waste that is produced is impossible to get rid off and not safe. who wants a bunch of nuclear waste stored next to their neighborhood? not me!

You know what's even LESS wasteful than that? Supporting clean(er) public transportation!

Population grows, more cars on the road, more traffic, more emissions, etc. It's not just the waste of GAS... it's the waste of resources. Does each man and woman need several tons of steel ( a nonrenewable resource that requires tons of energy just to mine and refine. Not to mention toxic paint, primer, flux, etc ) in their driveway just for them? No. You can't possibly, ever, in any way, make it sustainable for each person on the planet, or even 1/4, to own a car. If our cities were built just with bike travel in mind (like many European cities) then we'd already be better off... but think of cities that are designed geometrically superior to those of today... using advanced public transportation systems like maglev trains (that are already used in Japan)... then run them on solar power and "Bam!", problem solved.

On a side note, there are several non-toxic versions of steel that require less energy to make and have higher tensile strength. The factories aren't set up for them and infrastructure already has a hold on the market, though. So they stay in the dark.

Electric cars are not the answer in any way, at all. The paradigm is broken.

The polar bear would soon become a black bear.