The beautiful mathematics that Benoit Mandelbrot left as his legacy

Wicked pissah vid! Thanks.

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Excellent!!!

Thanks for sharing!

Nice vid!

Waves and fractals . . . heh

How?

I assume you meant how does fractal mathmatics disprove ID, not how was Mandelbrot a major influence on me.

Proponents of ID claim that pattern indicates a designer, that natural step-by-step processes only result in chaos, not structure.

Fractals are created by simple formulas that are iterated recursively; meaning the result of the calculation is then plugged back in as the values for the formula.

This simplicity results in incredible, infinite complexity.

Fractal mathematics proves that a simple step-by-step process, one building on the other as evolution does, results in complex patterns with no designer involved.

no designer ( necessarily ) involved. +^d. aint it kewl !

I am interested on his impact on your life if you care to talk about it

Sometimes its the deceptively simple things in life that turn out to be amazingly complex. To most people things they really dont understand are assumed to be easy to do or understand.

Well, I meant professionally, not so much personally or anything. :)

I'm a Technologist, and I got to that point by being a computer programmer and computer graphic artist, and I do a lot of procedural graphics- the code generates the graphics, models, etc instead of just importing them.

Like Spore, but a whole lot more primitive. :)

rather than scan a picture and map it on a model, I'd generate textures like wood, marble etc so they would be seamless, and be fully 3D- the veins or grain would cut on the model the way they should cut.

I've written fractal generators, including 3D generators (old ones in 16bit Windows that don't run any more), and came up with some of my own theories about the Mandelbrot and Julia sets.

I'm currently reteaching myself stuff I have not done in a long time, like OpenGL. Back when I did OpenGL, it was just GL. :)

I am a big fan of Occam's Razor myself just not sure it applies here. Personally I have seen nothing in science that truly disputes religious belief except in the cases of fundamentalists who insist on taking the Bible to be 100% literal truth. How can man truly comprehend a God? The whole lame concepts of infallibility or God guiding the hands of the monks copying the gospels is a cop out to establish the Church bureaucracy as the only authority on faith.

It applies because if the concept of God is so complex and incomprehensible, and we can explain everything in the universe without that concept, Occam's razor slices it off.

If the little we can't explain is so minor to the big picture, any magical being that may be responsible hardly qualifies for the label "god".

I wrote a logical proof that God does not exist:

http://current.com/news/92697338_earth-being-prepped-for-first-contact.htm#92699...

Ignore the part about color, and the rest of the back and forth- I was arguing with a Fundamentalist Creationist on that page.

Awesome! I was wondering i was trying to make a list in my head like hmm you could be a math professor, computer generator, or just love to disprove ID! lol

I dont think that we are in a position to say that there are only a few things that we cant understand. Science still cant explain how a bee flies and many of the maths we cite in our explanations of the universe can only be understood by a handful of humans on the entire planet. Whose to say that the equations even really exist? You are taking it entirely on faith that they prove what they say that they do.

The devil is in the details. Just good enough or almost still doesn't equal total certainty. you are showing "faith" that science has the answers.

Science! Just add logic and stir!

Okay fine I agree.........

But tell me this...... where did it all came from?

the raw materials of this existence.

The Big Bang.
That came from the interaction of M-Branes in the Bulk.
Where the M-Branes and the Bulk came from, who knows.

Like I said- if we don't know an answer, we don't know an answer.
It's unknown.
There is no need to make up an answer about some magical being from ancient folklore.

That is the response I was looking for...... what was before the big bang baffles me in torment.

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It's the same answer as to where do you go when you die....the place you were before you were born. Right?

The last # of Pi is your answer.

It's 42. :)

all that stuff is pretty random and seemingly unrelated, though i must admit it kinda feels like you might have something there..