Tech | December 12, 2010 | 139 comments

Colossal "rape mine" where more than 300,000 women and girls have been brutalised

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Hundreds of women and children were raped over and over during 3 days in July, another incident reported in August... estimates indicate many thousands of women and girls are brutalized each year on a gross scale ...for the creature comforts of civilized society. Efforts to combat illicit mining of coltan and other minerals are gaining traction, as politicians in Canada and other Western governments look to establish tough penalties against the practice. When we glance at the holocaust in Congo, with about 7 million dead, the clichés of Africa reporting tumble out: this is a "tribal conflict" in "the Heart of Darkness". It isn't. The United Nations investigation found it was a ****war led by "armies of business" to seize the metals*** that make our 21st-century society zing and bling. The war in Congo is a war about you.

(Mash-Quoted from various articles included below. When you see 5.4 million quoted, that is up to 2007, estimates for up to today are at 6.5 to 7 million.)

"Dr. Mukwege [see below] believes the number of women who have been raped since the beginning of the conflict is far higher than the U.N. estimates of 200,000-300,000, saying the real figure is more like half a million."
Over 6,000 rape incidents a year (in recent years) are conservatively estimated based just on what gets reported.
And we do not see the continuing dismemberment and murders (possibly decapitations), nor much footage from the few doctors you may read about working in the tranches.

"Exploited African oil, coltan, chocolate, bauxite, gold, coffee, platinum, chromium, iron, gas, flowers, agriculture and animals are dripping in the blood of African people, making billions of dollars for Europe and America. "
"In the end, it will be consumer education and pressure that will make the difference."

Lets wake up. There's more we can be doing...

Over 10 years, and its still going strong... "The mining industry in that country relies on slave labour, violence and sexual assault. Since the popularity of smartphones has risen, warlords in the country have taken control of the mines to retrieve the precious metal, then sell it on the international market to manufacturers of the gadgets that will ultimately end up under our Christmas trees." more at this link-->
http://www.care2.com/causes/human-rights/blog/smartphones-the-new-blood-diamonds...

Consider how much of this is about our cell phones and laptops, DVD players, computers, digital cameras, video games, vehicle air bags, jewelry (gold and diamonds), chocolate, and more... all the things so many feel they cannot live without [sic].

And so what can we do? What are we doing? Are we forgetting to keep an eye on this?
The main article prompting me to post is marked as such below. I have included a lot of links to other interesting articles, almost all within the last couple months. There are a couple of key things we all can be doing...
- we need to keep an eye on manufacturers and govt actions behind the statute in the Dodd-Frank bill discussed below
- there's a really provocative video in my third post below, please check it out... the ideas expressed there seem to make very good sense for changing things that matter.

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Q&A: DR Congo conflict (first, a little down and dirty overview)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11108589
"In November 2009, a report by UN-commissioned experts said UN involvement had done nothing to quell the violence - with rebels continuing to kill and plunder natural resources with impunity and claims the rebels are supported by an international crime network stretching through Africa to Western Europe and North America."

Timeline: Democratic Republic of Congo
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/1072684.stm

Prevalence of Rape in E. Congo Described as Worst in World (sep 2007)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/08/AR2007090801194....

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MAIN ARTICLE
IPS: Activists Slam World's "Grotesque Indifference"
http://www.ipsnews.net/africa/nota.asp?idnews=44965
The following are Excerpts - go read the article:
"TORONTO, Canada, Dec 3 (IPS) - International lust for the enormous mineral and resource riches of the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) abetted by international indifference has turned much of country into a colossal "rape mine" where more than 300,000 women and girls have been brutalised, say activists."

""Rape is being used as a deliberate tool to control people and territory," said Eve Ensler, a celebrated U.S. playwright and founder of V-Day, a global movement in 120 countries to end violence against women and girls."

"This "blood coltan" - akin to blood diamonds -

**generates billions of dollars of sales every year for electronics manufacturers in rich countries***

and brings

****hundreds of millions of dollars to rebels and others who control the coltan-producing regions.****

Coltan is also produced in other countries, and the DRC's "blood coltan" is often transported to those countries to give it a sheen of conflict-free provenance. "


There is a lot of news brewing if you look for it. I am disconcerted to seen almost none of it on Current. So you will forgive me if I post what may seem like to much information... I don't think you can have too much of this information and awareness about this.

What is ailing them is not isolated to "them over there". WE are a strong hand in their lives, and deaths, and suffering, by what we do, and what we fail to do.

Do you think it matters to be making an effort during your news sojourns 'out there' to find and read some news in/on Africa?
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139 comments // Colossal "rape mine" where more than 300,000 women and girls have been brutalised

  • Divide_Conquer
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      Divide_Conquer  
    • the only solution is back to the stone ages
      this news will justify the comming things in 2012 and beyond

      if not then we will need a few more thousand years to evolve past this crap
      untill the immmoral practices die out

    • 1 year ago
  • twohawks
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      twohawks  
    • *When we engage apathy, we betray ourselves...
      cantucwearebrothers said, "How do we remove ourselves enough to make an impact? Is it possible? Do enough people care to make a difference or have we, as some would suggest, become too comfortable with our life styles to make the changes needed?

      What changes can I make personally that would make a difference? Is it enough? I do not have the answers."

      Wow.

      I think there is significant difference between what is ineffectual and what is not....

      I think Jan makes a very insightful statement, "We actually are one of the most important components in working to stop these horrific abuses."

      I would emphasize... -each- one makes a difference.

      And I feel her question, like yours, "How can we ever reconcile the immensity of the human suffering that greed causes?" succinctly begs the true question plaguing many. If I get your meaning, Jan, this also implies/asks-- our disease (greed) and its affects are so rampant and deep, being so buried in it how do we -reason- holding out hope with anything we may presume to do?

      ---------------
      Science indicates that everything we think, do and say has an effect (on our reality as a whole)... and a -mounting- effect when we are constant and perseverant.

      So in a manner of speaking, we could say that our thoughts deeds and words exist like drops of water collected in a pond... as a whole.

      Picture a single drop falling into a pond..., each thought (drop), sends a ripple on throughout and eventually touches everything in that pond. It may -seemingly- fade to nothing eventually, but not -actually-.
      Further, any other ripple resonating on similar frequency amplifies the power and potential affects of that -type- of ripple. Of the thought that generated it.

      Plain and simple science, really.

      Personally for me, it is very challenging to understand how not to feed my hate, and thus the ripples of hate in the greater community (the world ;^) to which I am inexplicably connected.

      Seems to me that it is inevitable that... each thought you hold for compassionate participation can be as powerful as the thought of hate powering the swing of a machette, or the devastation of a bullet or a knife or a dick... (etc)

      However, one has to -hold fast- and constant in order for the droplets of our thoughts (carrying our notions and desires from the lofty clouds of our dreams) to collectively sustain the effects for how we are envisioning the reality.

      ...if you will.

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      I think we have an obligation to hold out hope (thru what we think do and say) for ourselves, our dreams, and in this case the ones suffering..., or how will we ever lend, and reap, any meaning to/from the powerful forces we are linked into, that we are a part of, that are affecting the disparagement or healing of, lives we are connected to?

      To presume to invalidate the larger connection is plainly delusional.

      So I see our choices, however small, as inescapably meaningful ...no matter which way you want to dream it.

      I say, don't let apathy suck you into betraying yourself and what you love.

      Just my two-sense about it.
      niso’kawaiksi
      TwoHawks

    • 1 year ago
  • DIMPLES83
  • cantucwearebrothers
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      cantucwearebrothers  
    • This makes my heart hurt and my head spin.

      Reading the comments on this post is quite revealing.

      I agree that having all of this new gadgetry has made us less content, but we've come to a point where it's integral to most of us surviving. How do we remove ourselves enough to make an impact? Is it possible? Do enough people care to make a difference or have we, as some would suggest, become too comfortable with our life styles to make the changes needed?

      What changes can I make personally that would make a difference? Is it enough? I do not have the answers.

    • 1 year ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  
    • cantucwearebrothers:

      You and no one else will change this abomination of a continent. The leaders are corrupt to the core with no concept of sympathy for the downtrodden. This is a dog eat dog world and woe to those that do not understand it. Rape of young girls occurs throughout the continent by brothers, uncles, cousins, fathers, and friends. But to my knowledge no rape case has been presented and prosecuted in Africa, unless it involved a white man, where the police could collect money. We are dealing with the most corrupt and heartless people on this Earth.

    • 1 year ago
  • tverdell
  • MoonLoon
  • hammywill
  • Brendan_Rosen
  • alexandrek
  • MoonLoon
  • MoonLoon
  • cantucwearebrothers
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      cantucwearebrothers  
    • hammywill:

      I've re-read my comment and can't see where I specified personal devices, but since that is what you read into it that is what I'll address.

      I personally do not own a computer at home...I don't have cable or the internet either (my kids LOVE it...Ha). As far as a personal cell phone goes...my job requires it. I could do without it for sure, but I am required to respond to emails and be available when I'm not in the building or 'on the clock'. Most of the people that I know are in the same boat. So take away my cell phone and you will take a way my employment. Then what? Find something else? Something that doesn't use any of these electronic devices...that's impossible.

      I also happen to know quite a number of people who, in this dying economy, have been backed into the position of being self employed which also requires the use of all of these items to maintain a livable income.

      So...I stand behind my statement...my opinion. In this day and age it's an accurate assessment.

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
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      hammywill  
    • cantucwearebrothers:

      My father lives in Montana, and he lives off the grid. In fact, when we first moved up there, we were REALLY off the grid, no power, no running water, etc. Went to the bathroom in an outhouse, grow/grew our own food and traded locally. We walked into town, where a number of people also rode horses into town.

      Of course I am not advocating this as a way of life for everyone, or even anyone neccessarily. My point is that your assertion that these things are required is simply not true. It is a choice. Incidentally, my father is not employed, and has not been for the last 20 years and seems to do just fine.

    • 1 year ago
  • Monkey_Films
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      Monkey_Films  
    • hammywill:

      The problem is that the Earth can only handle so many people not making the choice your father has. Not enough will or plan to in the future so instead the Earth will adjust and as it always does it will get rid of the virus...us. Then the Earth will heal and the cycle will begin again. We can all dream and hope to avoid this but the comments here prove that our gadgets and remaining comfortable in our careers and lives are blinding too many of us to the reality of our condition.

      The wars on all continents and the rapes mentioned in this article are all signs of greed and over consumption and we ignore this at our own peril. America's, and other countries' roosters will come home to roost all over this planet as we are now seeing both financially and ecologically.

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • hammywill:

      All things are doomed to change and disappear one way or the other. It is the impermanence of all things that is one of the pillars - and even the main pillar - of Buddhist teachings.

    • 1 year ago
  • cantucwearebrothers
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      cantucwearebrothers  
    • hammywill:

      Ok...so your father decides to live off the grid, you decide to live off the grid and I decide to live off the grid (which I would actually be quite comfortable doing)...what impact is that having if the collective 'we' are not making those same decisions. Am I to simply feel good that I am doing what I should be doing, though I am certain it's having zero impact on the lives of the women and girls mentioned in the article.

      It's a collective stand that needs to be taken. It's a nation realizing that their actions have consequences outside of 4G speeds and an up to the minute Facebook status.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Monkey_Films
  • hammywill
  • hammywill
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      hammywill  
    • cantucwearebrothers:

      The collective starts with you. I agree it will take a collective effort...but are we going to wait around until "he does it too?" Lastly, it is not about "feeling good that I am doing what I should be doing." It is doing what you SHOULD be doing because it is RIGHT, regardless of how it makes you feel.

      Look, I am a hypocrite I know. Here I am on my computer in my apartment in the Bay Area. I just don't want us to start acting as if WE (you AND I) do not have a part in the blame here. We share a portion of the guilt.

    • 1 year ago
  • Juas
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      Juas  
    • The more I learn about african societies, the more I realize the act of rape in many African countries is not seen too much of a crime, is more like as a "social malpractice"

      Just like littering. Is something people frown upon but definitely not a crime.

      The problem of rape in Africa, is a societal and a completely moral one.
      A young man in this places in Africa is almost encouraged to go over and rape some women "because thats what men do"

      Men joke about raping each other, women joke about getting raped. Some women actually find attractive the act of rape.

      Of course, my point of view has nothing to do with the slavery of the mines and the fucked up multi-national companies eating whole countries, whole societies and minimizing moral grounds for a stable life in Africa.

      At the end, its everyone's fault. Including themselves

    • 1 year ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  
    • Juas:

      Most girls are raped shortly after reaching puberty. Many before puberty, as these idiots think that sex with a virgin, protects them from HIV and gives them special juju powers.. I am not joking or lying. You are suggesting conversing with a less than Stone Age mentality when it comes to women. Women are meant to be used , abused, and discarded if they become troublesome. That is the way most Africans see their women. The African man sits under a shade tree smoking his pipe, drinking his beer, bullshitting with his fellow elders, while the wife labors in the field, growing the crop, cutting the firewood, selling goods in the market. Then at night he fucks her and goes to sleep, while castigating her for being lazy. This is the way life works in Africa.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • MoonLoon:

      Which specific African country and ethnic group or tribe are you referring to? Africa is a huge continent, you can't broad-brush that way. I don't think you've ever been to any country in Africa, because your comment is very ignorant.

    • 1 year ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  
    • Vierotchka:

      I am typing to you right now from Lagos, Nigeria. My home for 5 years. The minority of educated Africans are better, but the villagers are just as I described. A man here has the right to toss out his wife and children, without support, if he finds a younger more attractive woman. I have a number of girlfriends that suffered this fate. I see the little village ladies and children carrying huge loads of firewood on their head to the roadside for the charcoal manufacturers to buy. Farming is considered woman's work. I have plenty of photos to share if you doubt me. Having a wife and several girlfrieds is a sign of status among the better educated business men. Don't blame me, you are the one that posted about. the crimes being committed against women in Central Africa. North and South Africa are different and my knowledge of them is limited. Rape here is extremely common and happens to many, many young girls. I shop in a local market almost everyday and there is never , not one man working there. It is always women and children. So what part of Africa are you familar with? And why do you doubt that I live here?

    • 1 year ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  
    • Vierotchka:

      Sorry, I forgot to answer your question. I was referring to Nigeria; the Hausas, Yorubas, Igbo's, Ijaws, Ikwerre, and Ogoni's comprise most of my experiences, although both of my cooks were from the Repubic of Benin and have lived with me in Lagos for 5 years, I do not know their tribal background.

    • 1 year ago
  • Juas
  • Jweezy
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      Jweezy  
    • MoonLoon:

      What a liar!!

      Shame unto you, you are misrepresenting Nigeria and the rest of west Africa. If you can prove it, if you can produce eye witnesses - then someone can be prosecuted for rape…in west Africa that is. Specifically, in Nigeria. I’ve heard and seen folks/ men prosecuted and found guilty of rape. In the country side/boonies/villages it is harder to prosecute due to the distance of the local police stations to lack of communication and illiteracy.

      A rape is a crime in Africa, if …and only if you prove it. The local cops there are not reliable. If you need justice done, it is going to cost you. Justice in Africa ain’t free for everyone.

    • 1 year ago
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  
    • Jweezy:

      You presume to give me a lesson on Nigerian Justice? When charges are filed, the police will then demand money from the victim, in order to arrest the accused. They will then arrest the accused and demand demand money from the accused to release them. All witnesses will also be arrested and not released until someone pays their bail. What village girl's family has Naira 20,000 to pay the police for pursuing a case? The girl is raped with no recourse to Justice. If it goes to court the judge is then bribed for a favorable decision.
      I have been a victim of robbery in Nigeria and am well informed on the corrupt process followed by the police. You clearly are clueless. How many rapists perform their act in front of eyewitnesses? You need an education before supposing to lecture me.

    • 1 year ago
  • Jweezy
  • MoonLoon
    • +1
      MoonLoon  
    • Jweezy:

      I certainly hope that you can get a refund on your "education". First off "Garri" is not a drink, it is boiled root of the cassava plant. A starch, much in consistency like dough before cooking. It is rolled into egg sized balls with wet fingers and then dipped into pepper soup and eaten with the fingers.Any one that has been in West Africa is familar with Garri, so I must suspect that you are a fraud. Maybe you are confusing it with "Kai Kai"? Locally made alcohol or "Palm Wine". Perhaps you are unaware of the recent case of the Muslim Senator from Northern Nigeria "purchasing" a 13 year old girl from her "Saudi" father for $100K to be his "wife". This is strictly against Nigerian law and many protested, yet he was allowed to do it. He paid off the authorities of course.
      In five years I have employed 30 Nigerians in professional positions at very good salaries and also, contracted to build the first sanitary landfill in Nigeria. Funded by the World Bank near Ijanikin Village, North of Badagry.
      Any fool can Google information on West African Gov'ts. and any fool can claim a "lifetime" spent helping families in the villages. You do know, of course that the village chiefs skim off most financial aid before it ever reaches the people. Just this Christmas I received the demand from "King" Odum from Oginnaba Village, demanding 5 large cows, 10 goats, 50 large bags of rice, 10 cartons of beer. assorted alcoholic beverages, and N500,000 ($3,000), as "settlement to his Royal Majesty" for allowing me to employ the people of his village.
      Thanks for confirming that you know nothing and are either a dupe of the Gov't. or are living some sort of fantasy about Nigeria, far removed from actuality. By the way, please continue your education. You need it.

    • 1 year ago
  • MoonLoon
    • +1
      MoonLoon  
    • Jweezy:

      As you are desirous of having some knowledge, please Google "Rape-the silent weapon". This article by Amnesty International goes into great detail about how rape occurs and is prosected in Nigeria. It is claimed to be endemic and frequently committed by police, military, and security forces with less than 18% being reported due to fear of retribution or lack of money for a court case. This article basically supports my original off the cuff comments.

    • 1 year ago
  • ozoneocean
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      ozoneocean  
    • They mine rape now?

      Heh, taking one aspect of this situation in the Congo so amazingly out of context and then using THAT to contextualize everything else... you just end up with a surreal and distorted image. It makes things very confusing.

      How is that useful?

    • 1 year ago
  • twohawks
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      twohawks  
    • ozoneocean:

      But is it really so out of context? Inappropriately.. Misleading?... Arrogant?.. Bigoted? Hateful? Immature?...... to presume to use such language?
      Say they are horrifically violent all by their own lonely, without any engagement with or from us. If you are making, say, jewelry based on materials you buy from them, I might feel justified in calling it rape-jewelry. It would be different if I were to, say based on that, call you a bastard... first of all, I don't know you well enough to know if you are one, so its highly presumptuous and its carelessly degrading and defamitory, and it does nothing to facilitate communication between us, or change toward the better, so what's the point?

      Well I would guess that the point would be my thoughtless arrogance and bigotry for one. Possibly my fear of you. Presumption to try to make you look bad and cloud up the conversation so I can promote my own ideas thru subterfuge rather than honest ideas, perhaps. Maybe I am afraid of you and am looking at ways to invalidate you without really bothering to pay any attention, or for promoting a partisan (strongly polarized) agenda. Could be a million scenarios...

      It would certainly serve for teaching my kids validity for thoughtless hating, and acting out of their fear, and some other ill-productive character traits I could come up with.

      But to call the wares you are selling rape-jewelry... well sure, why not sound it out. Lets put a light on it and see what's in its reflection. I see maimed and raped and dead people. I don't want that hanging around my partner's beautiful neck, or off her precious ears. I don't want it sparkling in the precious innocent eyes of my children.
      And that, my friend, is not arrogant, or bigoted ...unless I have no verifiable information, or have not bothered looking at it, but I do, and I did.

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      If you are my friend, and you are conducting yourself unwittingly like a total fool at my house and you just aren't getting any of my hints, I might pull you aside and say something like "stop being a whore" (as a for instance). Now I don't mean to be degrading or condecending or hateful, and I am not being. What I am, is getting your attention with the truth... in a form that may be seemingly off-center and/or harsh, but I am beeing uncannily direct because I love you, I feel the need for getting your attention for waking up and growing up.

      Lets wake up and grow up, shall we? Hey, I agree, lets not be hateful or presume to use subterfuge. We don't need cowardly weapons. But not embracing hatred doesn't mean being a pussy.
      If you wish to be passive, I have no issue with that. Everybody has a place in the community, the pacifists as well as the warriors. Just don't presume to volunteer to be a guard for the community if you are a pacifist. And neither need judge the other as invalid. We need the warriors to be the guards, etc, and we need the pacifists to help enlighten us in our gentler virtues, etc.

      Considering how bull-headed we sometimes can be, using harsh and/or colorful language is sometimes appropriate for getting a point across. It is unfortunate that sensationalism in headlines often times truly employs the use of highly misleading, even deceitful, language, and promotes partisan dissention trather than humanitarian peace.

      *I am as prone to arrogance, bigotry, hate and fear just as much as anyone else, so its possible I am deluding myself; however, I honestly don't feel this is one of those instances. Not convinced of it yet, anyway, but I am trying to listen and hear everyone's point of view as best I can.

    • 1 year ago
  • twohawks
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      twohawks  
    • ozoneocean:

      hey ozoneocean, I was just rereading my reply to your comment and I can see how one might misconstrue a cloaked personal attack there, wow...
      To clarify...
      I hope its plain that my using "you" in my example was in no way intended for 'painting you' or directing any attitude "at" you in some hidden or trying-to-be-crafty manner.
      Far from it... I found you question most appropriate and important to be speaking to, and I am grateful you posted it.
      I will try to be more mindful in future. I apologize if the way I crafted my comments threw or unsulted you, or anyone else, in that regard.
      Pila maya.

    • 1 year ago
  • twohawks
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      twohawks  
    • I need time to learn more about the potential benefits and pitfalls in the "The Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act" that is going into affect (first referenced in the "Lessons for Canada" [poorly labelled] article in my 2nd post, and cited in several other articles. If there is anyone reading here who has some plain insights on that it would be nice to hear your thoughts on it (politics and bills and such are not my strong suit).

      It sounds/feels encouraging that we will have information made available to consumers about the trail of where the resources that are used in the 'goods' we are dependent upon are coming from, and for aiding in efforts to make manufacturers expose their propensities more readily in this regard, and eventually, hopefully, compell them to seek out alternatives, ...which appears to be being mandated in the bill.
      --Wish we had this for gmos!--
      Its a sad affair that so much suffering has to manifest before our leaders can be compelled to collaborate to do something about it.
      Obviously, it will be up to us consumers to see to it that it manifests anything meaningful.

      And I also feel encouraged by the creative ideas being put forth in the schooltube video.

      These 2 things (at the very least) feel like potentially tangible assets we can all participate in for influencing change in a positive direction.

    • 1 year ago
  • twohawks
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      twohawks  
    • Image
    • This piece was fairly well advertised. I wonder how many people are aware of it though?...

      Congo: The Horror (excerpts)
      Ed Caesar
      GQ, 7th January 2010
      http://www.edcaesar.co.uk/article.php?article_id=36
      ...
      "The International Rescue Committee estimated, in 2007, that 5.4 million people had perished as a result of Congo’s wars since 1998, making it the deadliest conflict anywhere since WWII. It continues to kill 45,000 people a month, almost half of them children. Most die from disease. Around 980,000 people in North Kivu province alone remain "internally displaced" by the insecurity, and live in squalid camps under straw and tarpaulin. Meanwhile, a disturbing number of Congolese women (and, as I discovered on my recent visit to the warzone, an increasing number of men) are subjected to extreme and baroque methods of violent rape and sexual torture by gunmen."
      ...
      "Masika said she had been raped several times herself. Once, in 1994, she watched soldiers murder her husband, cut him into bits "like a butcher", and throw his limbs around the room. Then, she was asked to rearrange him, as if he were an anatomical puzzle, before she was told to lie on her dead husband while the soldiers took turns to rape her. After the assault, they asked her if she was hungry, and forced her to eat her dead husband’s penis."
      ...
      "What is to be done? The situation in eastern Congo is, as Alston says, a human rights catastrophe. But it is much more than that. Congo, in general, is a profound civic disaster – a place where everyone wants a bribe and nothing works. Drive around the lava-blackened roads of Goma and the state of the failure, and the failure of the state, strikes you pungently. It is a town propped up by aid, where the rubbish mounts in the street, where every second car is a 4x4 belonging to a Western charity, where the only brightly coloured buildings are shops bearing mobile phone logos – a town where electricity fails, but where, if you know the right man, you can buy high-grade uranium on the street.

      Amid this chaos, what chance of a resolution? MONUC talks of small victories against the FDLR, of demilitarising a significant number of moderate fighters and sending them back to Rwanda. And, no doubt, the rebels have been weakened – but not enough. They may only be a force of six or seven thousand, but they continue to wreak havoc and, more importantly, they continue to recruit. Indeed, they may soon have fresh allies. On my last day in Congo, a local journalist told me he had been contacted by a new warlord called Checka, who claimed to have 4,000 armed men at his disposal, a friendly relationship with the FDLR and a list of grievances against the government. Meanwhile, the FARDC (the UN’s boys, our boys, shamefully) have proved themselves a cowardly, criminal outfit. If there is a military solution to the FDLR, they are not it."

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      Other links:
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      Compendium of articles
      http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address...

      Conflict minerals in your gadgets
      http://www.bangkokpost.com/tech/technews/207862/conflict-minerals-in-your-gadget...

      Conflict minerals" and political instability in eastern D R Congo
      http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/public/story_page/028-106188-337-12-49-903-20...

      http://www.smh.com.au/world/bought-from-the-barrel-of-a-gun-20101126-18ao4.html

      Bought from the barrel of a gun
      November 27, 2010
      The West's appetite for technology and drugs leaves a bloody trail, writes Dylan Welch.
      http://upcoming.current.com/search?q=coltan&x=0&y=0

      The doctor who heals victims of Congo's war rapes
      Gynaecologist Denis Mukwege operates in a war where sexual assault is used as a weapon
      Alex Duval Smith in Bukavu
      http://www.global-sisterhood-network.org/content/view/2515/59/
      In this volatile environment, 55-year-old Mukwege and his team have surgically repaired more than 20,000 women out of the thousands who have been war-raped in the Congo's Great Lakes region. "Rape," he says, "destroys women beyond the bounds of the describable."

      Momentum building to tackle coltan mining
      http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/momentum-building-to-tackle-colta...
      Efforts to combat illicit mining of coltan are gaining traction, as politicians in Canada and other Western governments look to establish tough penalties against the practice.

      Coltan: a new blood mineral
      http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2010/12/10/coltan-faq.html
      The controversy surrounding blood diamonds from the Democratic Republic of the Congo has made headlines over the past decade, but a relatively obscure mineral is also prompting international concern.

      Conflict Minerals: the New Blood Diamonds
      Teri Schure, May 16, 2010 (lays out some good info)
      http://www.worldpress.org/print_article.cfm?article_id=3834&dont=yes

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      http://www.friendsofthecongo.org/

      Hope you are celebrating a rape-free-consumer-products holiday.
      Pila maya,
      TwoHawks

    • 1 year ago
  • twohawks
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    • twohawks:

      http://friendsofthecongo.org

      Oh, and credit/thanks to teto for posting the friendsofthecongo.org initially. I had it in my notes for posting as you see it there.
      And someone mentioned hollywood. As you all know, or rather, it is pretty well known Ben Affleck's involvement for, what, 2 years now (?)... anyway, he's been trying to raise money to do a movie, but there's no hollywood money interested in it.

    • 1 year ago
  • twohawks
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    • PROXY WARS IN CENTRAL AFRICA?
      Profits, Propaganda and Luxury Goods for the West --
      Pacification, Rape and Slavery for the Rest
      by keith harmon snow
      http://ww4report.com/static/proxy.html
      "Brigitte Botsi is a seven year-old girl living in the village of Yalisenge, in Equateur province, Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). At 4:00 PM on April 30, Brigitte was raped by a soldier. Related directly by e-mail from a humanitarian aid worker based in the area, Brigitte's rape went otherwise unreported. (The aid worker's life would be endangered if name or position were revealed.) The soldier, loyal to the DRC transitional government of President Joseph Kabila, remains unpunished. "

      ^^load of info in that article there, really worth checking out^^

      ...I hope you take a moment to visit each one though, really...

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      Congo-Angola Mass Rapes Draw Scant Notice
      http://www.womensenews.org/story/war/101122/congo-angola-mass-rapes-draw-scant-n...
      By Amy Lieberman WeNews correspondent Tuesday, November 23, 2010
      "Some mass rapes attract more outrage than others. Two recent atrocities-- separated by just a couple of months--suggest U.N. peacekeeping jurisdiction can decide the degree to which the violations of hundreds of girls and women are noticed."

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      The Coltan Miners’ Slaughter: the Congo Holocaust(s) for Absolute Beginners
      by Lorette C. Luzajic
      http://thegirlcanwrite.wordpress.com/2009/10/23/the-coltan-miners%E2%80%99-slaug...
      I was walking with a friend with whom I seldom see eye to eye. Usually, I don’t need to agree with someone to get along with him or her, but what came out his mouth was unbelievable. I offhandedly mentioned something about violence against women, shamefully having been recently made aware of the situation in the Congo, where women (and men and boys) are being raped as terrorism. Stunned at his apathy, I said, “There’s a genocide going on there right now.”
      To my amazement, my pal said, “That’s what happens when you let Africans run a country.”
      Check out the full article at the link provided

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      Rape in Congo: 'I'm not sure I'll ever get over it'
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/dec/03/highlighting-rape-in-congo
      "In a sprawling refugee camp near Goma in the Democratic Republic of the Congo in the summer of 2009, Chris Jackson met a woman who had been violently raped. "She was pregnant at the time of the attack and her unborn baby was slashed from her. And there she was, in this huge, claustrophobic refugee camp without any treatment, and the only thing I could say to her was 'sorry'. It was so pathetic."

    • 1 year ago
  • twohawks
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    • Indicting Rwanda on Congo crimes is attempt to justify the 1994 genocide
      Tuesday, 23 November 2010 10:06 by patrick karuretwa & stephanie nyombayire
      http://www.independent.co.ug/index.php/news/news-analysis/79-news-analysis/3672-...
      Excerpts...
      "The October 1 mapping report on the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) from the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights serves both goals so poorly, it raises serious questions about the authors’ motives."
      ...
      "Indeed, the weakening Front Democratique pour la Liberation du Rwanda (FDLR), a rebel group comprised of many perpetrators of the 1994 genocide based in DRC, has leapt on the UN’s new allegation of “possible genocide” as the ultimate evidence that the RPF was always the true villain of the story. The FLDR supporters all over the world have embraced this campaign, which implies that it may have a legitimate cause to fight Rwanda. "
      ...
      "Once again, the stage is being set for more deaths and destruction in the region.

      The report claimed it would “help [the Congolese people] build a better future where impunity has no place.” After decades of catastrophic failures by the UN in the region, given the “leak” and subsequent release of this report at a time of relative stability, it is hard to see how the report can achieve its goals."
      ...
      "The attacks on the refugee camps in Zaire were not a surprise. They were the predicted and preventable consequences of a situation created and sustained for two years by international humanitarian organisations."
      ...
      "Time and again, “reputable” international organisations have put everything in place for the eruption of bloodshed and then turned around to claim legitimacy and capacity to deescalate the resulting cycle of violence, often downplaying their own role in further worsening the situation."

      --------------------- and where's the effing news crew on this ?? ------------
      On 26 November a round table discussion entitled “Remove the veil of silence about the Congo. The massacres in the DRC and the plundering of resources in the recent UN report” was held in Parma. This is a report of about six hundred pages, by the UN High Commission for Human Rights, officially published on 1 October 2010, entitled “Report of the Mapping Project on the most serious violations of human rights and international humanitarian law, committed between March 1993 and June 2003 in the territory of the Democratic Republic of Congo”.

      UN report to show Rwanda massacred Hutus in DR Congo, says Le Monde
      http://www.english.rfi.fr/africa/20100827-un-report-shows-rwanda-massacred-hutus...
      "Friday's Le Monde newspaper has seen what it describes as "an almost definitive version" of a 600-page UN report. The document investigates human rights abuses in eastern DRC, between 1993 and 2003.

      Over a million Hutus fled to the DRC in the wake of Rwanda's 1994 genocide, which ended when President Paul Kagame's RPF forces took control of the country.

      Le Monde says the report identifies "systematic attacks" against these Hutu refugees by the Rwandan army - and the Congolese rebel group the AFDL - in the years 1996 to 1998.

      The report suggests that there could be a basis for a charge of genocide."
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      UN claims possible genocide in DR Congo
      Oct 2, 2010 5:14 PM | By AFP
      http://www.timeslive.co.za/africa/article686843.ece/UN-claims-possible-genocide-...
      "The report, covering massacres carried out between 1993 and 2003, also implicated the armies of Angola, Burundi, and Uganda, provoking angry reactions from their governments. "

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      RENEWING ARMS EMBARGO ON DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO, SECURITY COUNCIL SEEKS MANDATE EXTENSION FOR EXPERT GROUP MONITORING RELATED SANCTIONS - resolution 1952 (2010)
      Source: United Nations Security Council
      Date: 29 Nov 2010
      http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900sid/VDUX-8BNQTY?OpenDocument
      "Condemning the continuing illicit flow of weapons within and into the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the Security Council today renewed until 30 November 2011 the arms embargo and related sanctions on that country, and requested the Secretary-General to extend the mandate of the Group of Experts monitoring those measures."

      *Bemba War Crimes Trial Begins Monday 21 November 2010
      http://www.voanews.com/english/news/africa/Bemba-War-Crimes-Trial-Begins-Monday-...
      A spokesperson for the Hague-based International Criminal Court (ICC) told VOA the trial of former Congolese Vice President Jean-Pierre Bemba on charges of rape, murder and crimes against humanity begins Monday in the Netherlands.

    • 1 year ago
  • twohawks
    • 0
      twohawks  
    • twohawks:

      That ^^ was some stuff I was sorting out for added news relevant to my initial post there.
      Following next are some interesting, albeit disturbing, stories, I think we do well to hear.

    • 1 year ago
  • Sarah_Honea
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      Sarah_Honea  
    • The only way this is going to change is by:

      The UN getting of its FRAKING ASS and Calling the corporate community[ sic. Amerika and the EU spade of spade.i By spying on them
      and getting the dirt to Drag them to The Hague.

      Wholeywood actually taking a leaf from their past and making a film moving enough to get the average couch potato out of the theatre and on to the streets.

      You and I using our current techno good till they expire after maintaining them for a dogs age.

      Till then: For every gadget you buy, 150 women/children were raped so you can text/listen/email.

      enjoy.

      PS. The Coltan Mines in Africa were named as a National Defense Zone By Bush and perehaps adopted by Obama. Thanks Wikileads.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • Stoneyroad
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      Stoneyroad  
    • nice post twohawks. .Open their eyes.

      But i'm sure we will find someway to ignore this outrage while simultaniously thinking we are helping.

    • 1 year ago
  • toastyguy11
  • unimatrix0
    • +6
      unimatrix0  
    • We should be careful where we place blame. These women and children are not abstractions. There are real, individual, and particular men who choose to engage in this abominable criminal behavior.

      I don't think we do the victims any favor by blaming their plight on vague abstractions like international corporations and western consumption. They are not being raped by abstractions.

      At some point we must hold the human beings who are there on the ground accountable.

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
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      hammywill  
    • unimatrix0:

      The rapist is ultimately the one responsible. But when we supply him with duct tape and handcuffs to give him the capacity to rape the victim...even though our intention was not for him to commit rape..of course initially we are not responsible..but once we know that the person we gave those things to is using them to commit rape...then, if we continue to supply him with the incentive or supplies to commit the rape...at that point we are complicit.

    • 1 year ago
  • MoonLoon
    • 0
      MoonLoon  
    • hammywill:

      "Hammy", these bastards are using AK-47's, not duct tape and handcuffs. If the flow of arms into Africa could be stopped then some of the warfare would subside. However, keep in mind that they have killed hundreds of thousands with machetes and maimed many others. The only way to inhibit African leaders is to put in place Global banking regulations that freeze any account that cannot be proven to be legitimately earned and seizure of their foreign assets. Then force the G-7 countries to require enhanced financial reporting from the industrialised world companies. This will never happen.

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
    • 0
      hammywill  
    • MoonLoon:

      OR...we could stop buying the products that use these minerals. Either one would work, but let's not sit here and try to assuage our own culpability in this. We have a part in this, we share a portion of the blame.

    • 1 year ago
  • tverdell
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  • FtheBULLSHT
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      FtheBULLSHT  
    • tverdell:

      "What if a soldier were to rape his sisters?"

      "If I knew that she was raped for a good cause, I wouldn't do anything, because I know it's for the sake of helping the Congo."

      What.The.FUCK!

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
    • +4
      keithponder  
    • tverdell:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3w2mGQ7V3Q

      Though ignorance is never a defense for committing atrocities of this nature, I'm painfully disappointed in the behavior of these African soldiers. A large segment of the people on the African continent are still caught in the old myths of the land. This is still a 3rd world continent for the most part.

      American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan don't have this (magic potion) excuse for committing the same type of behavior.

    • 1 year ago
  • tverdell
  • MoonLoon
    • +1
      MoonLoon  
    • keithponder:

      Hello Keith,
      You have a valid point that rape has been used as a weapon of war for thousands of years, not just in Africa. Tverdell's tape on interviewing the young soldiers was painful, but enlightening. They all were justifying the rapes to prove their "magic potion". Not one was willing to accept personal responsibility for committing this offense. But we must consider that a "juju man" or "witch doctor", is the one selling the potions and directing them to rape. Therefore, they feel obligated to do his wishes. I know that I can sound condesending and racist, at times, but please bear with me. Animism and belief in "magic" still has a stranglehold on most Central African people. Even the Oxford educated graduates have a basic fear of charms, curses, and juju. So of course these uneducated soldiers are much more prone to belief. That is how they are controlled and pushed to rape and murder by someone behind the scenes. African leaders are extremely intelligent and wise to the ways of the Industrialised world. If a buck can be made they will make it. Which off course plays right into the hands of unscrupulous global businesses. However, you and I are both apalled at the human carnage created by the soldiers and their seeming lack of compassion for their victims. It is hard to reconcile this fact with the genuine love and kindness exhibited by most Africans.

    • 1 year ago
  • keithponder
    • +1
      keithponder  
    • tverdell:

      I blame both. Every individual involved in war, at some point in time,must be held accountable for their own actions. The proof is in their responses to the questions ask about the own sisters and mothers being raped by other soldiers.They know the difference in right and wrong. The weapons that soldiers carry gives them feelings on invincibility. They choose to do whatever they want to do.

      Do anyone of you remember n American soldier by the name of Lt. Robert Callie?

    • 1 year ago
  • MoonLoon
    • 0
      MoonLoon  
    • keithponder:

      "Vietnam,Lt. William Calley', I remember him well and the atrocities he committed in the name of the U.S. Murdered innocent men, women, and children, and then tried to hide behind the U.S. Military, claiming them to be Viet Cong.

    • 1 year ago
  • tverdell
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  • thetrimsmith
    • +1
      thetrimsmith  
    • tverdell:

      With respect, Chomsky never forsaw politicians whoring themselves and their influence to multi-billion dollar corps. Allowing their countries to be raped of resources at an industrial scale, arming militants to remove populations from target assets. Let's try it this way: Corps induce lawlessness, which rape is inherent to. :)

    • 1 year ago
  • tverdell
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  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • tverdell:

      Those who do the raping of women and girls consist for the most part of militias from neighboring countries - they seek to control the areas rich in these minerals so as to mine and exploit these minerals themselves and to then sell them to the corporations. By raping women and girls, and by mutilating and killing civilians, they control the local populations through fear and humiliation.

    • 1 year ago
  • thetrimsmith
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      thetrimsmith  
    • tverdell:

      Corporations sow dissent and lawlessness, to better exploit the land and displace the populace. Rape is a byproduct (recreational and intimidation) of the funding of puppet governments and warlords from Corps and Inc's.

    • 1 year ago
  • toastyguy11
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      toastyguy11  
    • tverdell:

      Corps aren't causing the soldiers to rape so many women, that is caused by forces using it as a way to wage war, a false belief and probably by being in a warzone so much. Soldiers often rape women, it's not hard for some people to lose track of right and wrong when they're killing people all the time. However, it's pretty obvious that the war is what is causing so much rape, since they're using it as a weapon. Since the corps are perpetuating this war, they are responsible for the consequences.

    • 1 year ago
  • CalgarC
  • corndog67
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      corndog67  
    • We do? I don't think so. How many of you guys have cell phones? Our family has 4 of them. Lithium batteries in everything. How much is in your cars? Probably quite a bit. How many of you are willing to give these things up? I'll bet very, very few of you are . I'll admit that I'm not. Whether it's the minerals we use that need to be mined in 3rd world or undeveloped countries, or the child and slave labor that is being used in China or other parts of Asia and the rest of the world, someone is going to use the product, someone is going to profit from either making the product or selling it, or using it.

      Lots of people here seem to have empathy for the people of these countries that are being taken advantage of, or at least will say that they do, but almost none of us will do anything to stop it, after all, we are quite comfortable with our lives, and their lives have little or no value to us.

      That's pretty blunt, but it is the way I see it. If we don't see it, we aren't too concerned about it.

      Or put it this way, how many of these mined minerals/chemicals are in this computer that you are using to read this right now? Why not stop using your computer, cell phone, car, and everything else that we use to make our lives more convenient to us? I'm not willing to.

    • 1 year ago
  • KSirys
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      KSirys  
    • corndog67:

      You must be young to think no one is going to stop using the items you mentioned. 15 yrs ago, cell phones, laptops and computers were not a necessity, they were a luxury/option. Just because YOU chose not, doesn't mean everyone thinks like you.

      I'll be doing something about it tomorrow... Unlike you i can change, because these items are not my life!

    • 1 year ago
  • treewolf39
    • +6
      treewolf39  
    • KSirys:

      +^'d. Hell I have only had a computer for four years now. I found cell phones to be completely annoying most of the time and a great way to be distracted from the job at hand.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
    • +3
      Vierotchka  
    • corndog67:

      I've long gotten rid of my car and old cell phone, I walk and use public transportation, and use my simple and basic land-line phone. I don't eat chocolate, but do use cocoa that I buy in fairness shops, none of that cocoa comes from the Congo. I don't buy gold and diamonds, the only gold and diamond and other precious stones jewels I have are old family heirlooms and neither the gold nor the stones originate from Africa. I do have a computer, though (obviously) which is a necessity for me for various reasons. The batteries I do use for a few battery-driven objects are not lithium, they are rechargeable ones. I sort out my trash for recycling (paper, cardboard, aluminium, PET bottles, glass, and organic waste for compost), use only recycled paper and toilet paper, and am very sparing of water and heating. Any clothes I occasionally buy are cotton or wool and from non-polluting and ethical sources with regard to production and manufacture. I give to charities like Doctors Without Borders, the International Red Cross and Amnesty International. What more can I personally do?

    • 1 year ago
  • Monkey_Films
    • +6
      Monkey_Films  
    • corndog67:

      I plan to do so. Studies show technology has made us less happy, not more. Why have all of this if it's depressing us?

      The biggest problem is that in America you must work and use technology to live 'legally'. If you bought land, got off the grid and survived on your own, it wouldn't be long and they'd try to condemn the property for not having utilities, foreclose on the property for not paying taxes or haul you off for either being a vagrant, mentally ill or violating the copyright of Monsanto's seeds and not paying taxes on your crops.

      So much for the land of the free.

    • 1 year ago
  • Monkey_Films
  • hammywill
    • -1
      hammywill  
    • KSirys:

      You are using a computer right now. So maybe he should have asked WHEN will you start putting your money where your mouth is? So I will ask it for him, when are you going to actually put your money where your mouth is?

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
  • hammywill
  • Vierotchka
    • +2
      Vierotchka  
    • hammywill:

      I would love to - I do grow part of my own food by germinating and sprouting organic seeds, but as I live in a small apartment without even a balcony, I can't grow much more. However, I do buy locally grown organic fruit and vegetables. As for electricity, mine stems exclusively from hydro-electric plants. My dream is to have an Earthship (see video above) in which I would grow all my own food and generate my own electricity via windmills, heat-pumps and photovoltaic panes covered in artificial photosynthesis dyes (http://www.connect-green.com/artificial-photosynthesis-in-solar-cells/). I could then feed electricity into the grid and earn some extra money this way. Unfortunately, my very modest means make this dream home way beyond my reach until I win the jackpot at the lottery! :)

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
    • 0
      hammywill  
    • Vierotchka:

      I too would love to do such a thing. Though, I like you live in a small one bedroom apartment. I LOVE the local farmer's market and the produce I get there is SO delicious I can not imagine why ANYONE buys their produce from the grocery store!

      My father owns some property in another state, he pumps his own water, generates his own power, and grows his own food. Though he still has to find SOME work to pay his "rent" to the government or they will take his property away.

    • 1 year ago
  • madjik68
  • KSirys
    • +2
      KSirys  
    • hammywill:

      Am i using a computer right now? or am i magically sending this info through my brain.... hummm..... 0.o

      by the way, i did write this at the end of my comment.. "I'll be doing something about it tomorrow..." Since you're that smart to read a full comment...

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
  • Vierotchka
    • 0
      Vierotchka  
    • hammywill:

      When I win the jackpot, after having bought myself some land and had an Earthship built, I'll buy some land in your country and have an Earthship built on it, and give them to you. :)

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
  • corndog67
    • 0
      corndog67  
    • KSirys:

      Alright K, there seems to be 5 or 6 of you that are going off the grid, throwing the computer out the window, going to grow your own food from un-genetically modified seeds (no such thing any more, they're all modified), going to ride your bicycle to work, but it has wooden tires, since the petroleum used in the manufacture of rubber is destroying the world, going to start using smoke signals to communicate, etc., etc. As I recall, Veirotchka is from Europe, they actually have a real transit system there, not like most parts of the US.

      As for myself, I just hit 49 a couple of weeks ago, so the being young comment is off. I'll be perfectly honest with you, I'm very comfortable with the way I'm living right now. I'm in the manufacturing industry, have been for 29 years. I work with materials that are probably mined in some of those countries. As you have mentioned, I have no intention of changing anything in my life right now. Oh, I am selling my off road motorcycle next week, but only because I'm buying another one.

      Your comment about changing, more implicitly, me changing, I have no want or reason to. I'm just being honest here. As for the diamonds and gold, I did buy my wife a diamond ring, but in my opinion, jewelry is set up to rip people off, I have no idea what I'm buying, every jewelry store that I've ever been in told me that their's was the only good diamonds out there, and everyone else's were junk, so I assume they are all crooks, and I have no idea where they were mined, either. As for the gold, gold is needed for high current connections in electronic devices and controls, so gold is a pretty necessary commodity.

      I think there are more people out there like me, trying to keep my life as comfortable as possible, then there are people that are willing to give up their little creature comforts.

      I might be wrong though.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • keithponder
    • +1
      keithponder  
    • Vierotchka:

      I did not purchase a diamond ring for my wife when we got married 7 years ago in front of the judge. She was OK with it then and she's still OK with it. We're very happy together, as oppose to most people that I know that did the opposite and had extravagant weddings.
      Most of them are divorced already.

    • 1 year ago
  • Jweezy
    • +1
      Jweezy  
    • corndog67:

      I agree… presently, there’re some of us who would not give up our gadgets for the convenient of our lifestyles. I am a network engineer for a wireless company- for that, I’m equipped with a lot of “cool” gadgets and today I can’t do without them, it’s crazy, I know. However, you being and identifying yourself as on of us who wouldn’t give up our gadgets due to the crisis [specifically] in Congo/Africa. In your opinion, what should we do to stop these hideous crimes being committed? We both know it got nothing to do with “LUCK” or “saving Congo”. We both know it’s illiteracy.

      There’s no justification in raping a mother, a wife, a daughter, or a sister. We can’t continue to enjoy the convenient of our gadgets while turning our backs to the consequences it creates. Since I can’t give up my gadgets - for some good reasons lol, I am interested in knowing what needs to be done, how can this problem be fixed?

      I believe we can continue using our gadgets without anyone getting rapped, killed, or being decapitated. Just like the diamond issues/crisis, something can be done. We can have it regulated, registered, certified… I don’t know, but something needs to be done.

    • 1 year ago
  • Jweezy
    • +1
      Jweezy  
    • Monkey_Films:

      Yup! I red an article about that few years ago… what suppose to make our lives easier ended up with us being frustrated half the time that we possessed it because it would not work as designed or expected, not doing its purpose… “making our lives easier” lmao

      Now, as far as “the land of the free” goes, that’s another topic. I’ve got so much to say about that.

    • 1 year ago
  • Jweezy
    • 0
      Jweezy  
    • hammywill:

      Yo!! hammywill, you are so OFF the freaking subject and missing the point here… “start putting your money where your mouth is?” WTF are you referring to?????

      Please leave your emotions and feelings behind and read the comments again- you may see it differently this time.

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
    • +1
      hammywill  
    • Jweezy:

      I'm not sure I follow your question. I am referring to the fact that he we are using computers and cel phones, DVD players and all sorts of other electronic gadgets that use these minerals. My question is, when will we stop buying them in order to force the issue. That is when the change will happen. When these people feel it in the bank then these practices will stop. As long as they are still profitable they will continue. So if we want to stop them, we have to end the demand.

      Give up our computers, cel phones, dvd players, etc. Are we willing to do this?

    • 1 year ago
  • corndog67
    • 0
      corndog67  
    • Vierotchka:

      Viero, I'm fairly certain I'm not a psychopath. Aw hell, I might be, but I manage to stay employed, stay married, stay out of jail, and more or less lead a happy, fruitful, life. And as far as I can remember, I have not ever killed anyone.

      And what do you mean justify myself? I was just being honest about how I feel. If you feel strongly enough to change your whole lifestyle to try to change how things are in the Congo and else where, be my guest. Personally, I doubt there is much I can do about how things play out there, no matter what I choose to do or not do.

      And Jweezy, I like my little toys, gadgets, whatever, but I don't feel that I couldn't live without them, I just prefer to use them in my day to day life.

      Keith, my wife and I got married almost 7 years ago also. But she wanted a nice ring, a small wedding, and we are also getting along famously. But that ring took me 3 years to pay for. And I still don't know if I got ripped off, and I probably don't want to know.

    • 1 year ago
  • hammywill
    • +1
      hammywill  
    • corndog67:

      Everyone who buys a diamond gets ripped off. They are not rare gems at all, they ARE precious stones, but they are not rare. The reason the price is so high is because Diamond mine owners starve the market, driving the price up in the face of such huge demand.

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
    • 0
      Vierotchka  
    • corndog67:

      Plenty of psychopaths stay employed, stay married, stay out of jail, never kill anyone nor commit a crime. However, as you have consistently shown, psychopaths are devoid of empathy and very good at imitating a normal life and personality. Oftimes, they are not even aware of the fact that they are doing this.

    • 1 year ago
  • jubal
    • +2
      jubal  
    • This makes so much sense now, I understand the real nature of the conflict. It is so cliche it hurts your cheeks...its all about money and profit. It figures it would be about corporate profits. I agree that this needs to be stopped. The only way its going to matter in the court of public opinion is if this is publicized. Like others have said it needs to be care about and fought.

    • 1 year ago
  • Monkey_Films
    • +4
      Monkey_Films  
    • Sad side effect to our consumerism. This is why I say that a simpler life is the only way we can fix all of this and save the environment. Not more technology, less. The Amish have it right.

    • 1 year ago
  • CalgarC
  • KSirys
    • +2
      KSirys  
    • So much for the God that's all loving and knowing!!

      WE need to take care of this!
      WE need to fight this! and
      WE need to stop this!!

      I added some groups as well and will be posting this on my facebook account! Thanks for the info Twohawks!

    • 1 year ago
  • ras_menelik
    • +1
      ras_menelik  
    • Clinton sad never again (@100,000 dead) when the Hutus and the Tutsi genocide STARTED and this is a direct result of that if that dose not make sense that's because of the old colonial lines on the map 7 million+ Hutus ,Tutsi and others dead!!!
      So what Clinton said then was never again will we tell the world when something like this happens but we will continue to fund it BLOODY COBALT IN EVERY CELLPHONE all from the Congo.
      I was a democrat once full of hopes and dreams then this shit started and woke me up

    • 1 year ago
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