Gulf Oil Ecocide: Most toxic oil still in water columns?

You are not allowed to think.

You are to believe what you are told. You are not to question what you are told.

Your purpose is to work your entire life to make money to buy and consume what you are told to buy and consume.

We will tell you what to buy and consume, and what to believe.

Now, get back in your place, be quiet and get back to work.

LOLROTFPIMP

You will now buy some new pants.

Over something so sad I am sitting here quite literally laughing my ass off crying that was SO funny, you r the man

glad you liked it tommic---we all need a good laugh now and then

wetdog if the bacteria ate all the methane how come bacteria the size of volkswagons are not floating around and exploding all over the place when those southerners lite up their cigarettes NOT serious

Because, everyone knows that good ole southern boys chaw their tabaccy----they jes took some long poles and pushed them over inflated bacteria back into the Gulf Stream to float up north where they belong----along with the other over inflated wind bags.

we're in rare form tonight LOl

Where are the buffalo? Where are the passenger pidgeons? Where are the eastern cougars? Where is the eastern elk? Where is the Carolina parakeet?

By my count, 39 species have become extinct since 1963. Over 450 since the white man arrived.

These are entirely the work of humans.

As for the deep ocean---we don't even know what species are down there. We may have wiped out species we'll never even know about.

--------" I think an oil rig blowout will be no problem."-------

Of coarse you wouldn't. There are over 27,000 oil rigs, both active and abandoned in the Gulf of Mexico.

All the buffalo in the United States are descended from wood buffalo brought down from northern Alberta. Humans hunted the plains buffalo to extinction---all 80-100 million of them in about 20 years. Same species---but smaller sub species.

------------" Besides, none of them died out because of oil spills. Do you always come up with such irrelevent questions to try and derail the topic?"--------

It is not irrelevant at all----your answer is the perfect illustration of my point. Human greed and exploitation killed off every single one of those species----in just a few years. The Passenger Pigeon were present in flocks that numbered in the billions. There was a report of a flock that flew over Baltimore in 1870 that took three days to pass overhead. By 1910, they had disappeared in the wild. The last Passenger Pigeon died in a zoo in Cincinnati in 1914. Killed off by greed, exploitation and apathy----just like yours.

And now, even species we depend on are going extinct. Salmon for instance. And we are destroying habitat and poisoning our own habitat at an unprecedented rate.

And the organs that all these toxins destroy first are the brain, liver and kidneys.

So, what other prediction have I been wrong on? So far as I know, all of the extinct species are still extinct. And I have not seen one shred of evidence from you that crude oil does not contain a witches brew of toxic components.

Trying to convince us that pouring hundreds of millions of gallons crude oil and disperants into the Gulf fishing grounds, tidal marshes, estuaries and beaches of the Gulf of Mexico is a totally harmless thing, and has no impact?

Please----a three year old has more brains and common sense than that.

----"...why beleive your side now?"---- indeed, why?

----" A report marking the twentieth anniversary of the spill has found oil still persists in the region and, in some places, quote, “is nearly as toxic as it was a few weeks after the spill.” The report was put together by the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill Trustee Council, which oversaw restoration efforts. It states, quote, “At this rate, the remaining oil will take decades and possibly centuries to disappear entirely.”
And twenty years after the disaster, litigation against Exxon continues to drag on. In 1994, an Alaskan jury found Exxon responsible and ruled the company should pay $5 billion in punitive damages to some 33,000 plaintiffs. Exxon appealed. In 2006, the 9th US Circuit Court cut the award of punitive damages in half to $2.5 billion. Then, in a 5-to-3 ruling last June, the Supreme Court cut the amount of punitive damages again and ordered Exxon Mobil to pay just $500 million in punitive damages, one-tenth of the original jury’s ruling. That equates to about four days of Exxon Mobil’s net profits. "-----

And BP is doing the same legal maneuvering right now.

The people and the environment lose.

You are supporting their actions, and you don't even get one penny of the enormous profits. Kind of hard to even imagine a stupider stooge isn't it?

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/3/24/20_years_after_exxon_valdez_oil

Well..........let's see, whom should I believe? The Marine Toxicologist who lives in Cordova, Alaska, overlooking the coast and has an advanced degree in such matters---or---the unemployed locksmith in North Dakota, whom I doubt has ever even seen the ocean.

I think I'll go with the Marine Toxicologist.

-------" Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."------

Yes. It would appear to me that Exxon and BP have fooled you about 10,000 times.

Shame on you.

You wouldn't know ecological damage if you tripped and fell into it face first.

How would you know? You've never even seen the ocean.

You went swimming in the ocean once 28 years ago, and you ate at a seafood restaurant---------some expert!

I think I have the facts straight enough----LMAO!

W H I T E W A S H.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65L6IA20100622

How much oxygen was also eaten?

"(Reuters) - As much as 1 million times the normal level of methane gas has been found in some regions near the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, enough to potentially deplete oxygen and create a dead zone, U.S. scientists said on Tuesday.

Texas A&M University oceanography professor John Kessler, just back from a 10-day research expedition near the BP Plc oil spill in the gulf, says methane gas levels in some areas are "astonishingly high."

Kessler's crew took measurements of both surface and deep water within a 5-mile (8 kilometer) radius of BP's broken wellhead.

"There is an incredible amount of methane in there," Kessler told reporters in a telephone briefing.

In some areas, the crew of 12 scientists found concentrations that were 100,000 times higher than normal.

"We saw them approach a million times above background concentrations" in some areas, Kessler said.

The scientists were looking for signs that the methane gas had depleted levels of oxygen dissolved in the water needed to sustain marine life.

"At some locations, we saw depletions of up to 30 percent of oxygen based on its natural concentration in the waters. At other places, we saw no depletion of oxygen in the waters. We need to determine why that is," he told the briefing.

Methane occurs naturally in sea water, but high concentrations can encourage the growth of microbes that gobble up oxygen needed by marine life."

So, what species of bacteria ate all the methane, and where are they now?

In the bowels of some birds and fish perhaps? Flowing through the ocean conveyor belt around the continents?

Not likely Jan. The only species of bacteria I know of that utilizes the KEGG cycle, metabolizes methane, is Archeus. A very ancient and slow growing bacteria. I have seen reports estimating the reproductive generation times of Archeus at between 100 to 2000 years.

The report that ras-menelik cites was written in Oct., just two months after the well was capped. It was published in Dec. To propose that Archeus species completely metabolized the enormous amounts of methane in so short a time seems utterly preposterous to me. The metabolic rate for Archeus would be so slow as to be completely off the scale in terms of the time frame for other species. Besides, just the detritus alone would produce shear mountains of waste. Even if it were consumed by bacteria----it had to be changed into something else, it would not "just disappear".

Just like every other article I have seen about the Mecondo blowout since the well was capped in August:
-----" So how much methane blew along with 4.1 to 4.4 million gallons of oil?"-------
gives me a clue. Every article I've seen starts off with this same ridiculously low estimate of the amount of oil released. Any sane person looking at the live feed videos running for 4 months on CNN would know this figure is pure hogwash.

Since fines can be levied on a per gallon released basis, and we had reports of BP placing hundreds of scientists in the area under contract even before the capping of the well, it is my belief that what we are seeing is the BP legal team working overtime to sell the idea that this oil spill was as harmless as dropping a quart of orange juice.

Don't expect any impartial coverage from the media----it seems clear to me that the media is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the BP legal team at this point.

Absolutely. As with everything else, it's all about money. And I agree, it is preposterious, and IMO criminal.

Now NOTHING just dissapears, I didn't fall off the turnip truck just yesterday. That much methane was not eaten by bacteria, if that was the case the bacteria would either be the size of volkswagons or there would be a reproductive explosion of bacteria that would end mankind, oh wait maybe I'm on to something. LOL But there is something going on and its not good, that for sure

Would you like a nice tall refreshing glass of gasoline to go with your gulf shrimp with crude and dispersant sauce?

Yes, there are natural things in the environment we should avoid. But that doesn't mean it is OK to go around destroying the environment by filling it with toxins. The environment is the environment. What is there naturally, we and the environment are evolved to handle----industrial toxins just stay in the environment---and make it toxic.

If you live in a toxic environment, you will get sick.

If you live in a toxic environment, you will get sick.

It seems as if there are only a handful of regulars on Current that demonstrate enough courage and spiritual insight to challenge the media and our government's position on this animal loss catastrophe.

I'm glad that you're here Jan.

Thank you. Glad to have you here too. It is our duty as citizens to question government regardless of party especially regarding matters of life and death, which this is definitely one. I am very disturbed that this is getting no play in the media anymore.The people who also live there are being gagged as I simply cannot believe all is back to normal. Look at what happened after Hurricane Katrina over five years ago and many stilll live in FEMA trailers!

Very interesting video Jan. Dated 12/10/10

I never saw this report on any of the major media outlets. At all. This is the first I've seen of it.

"BP is working hard to make it right------for ourselves."

BP-----"We want our profits back!"

Thanks for posting that-----I think that is worth posting as separate submission.

Keith----I completely agree with you, thanks for saying so out loud.

And now your buddies want to take it away again.

Maybe because liberals only say it is corrupt when it actually is corrupt? Like giving bribes and parties to MMS employees to not enforce safety and environmental rules.

We will live the effects of this for decades. And BP gets to rebuild their image and drill some more. Where the hell is the justice?