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Breaking News // OPEN LETTER FROM ANONYMOUS TO THE UK GOVERNMENT

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OPEN LETTER FROM ANONYMOUS TO THE UK GOVERNMENT

Dear UK government,
We are Anonymous. It has come to our attention that you deemed it necessary
to arrest five of our fellow anons for their participation in the DDoS
attacks against PayPal, Mastercard, and others, that have been carried out
in our name in retaliation for those organisations’ actions against WikiLeaks.
We understand you are planning to charge these fellow anons with offences
under the 1990 Computer Misuse Act, which prohibits impairing the operation
of a computer or the readability of data. Anonymous believes, however, that
pursuing this direction is a sad mistake on your behalf. Not only does it
reveal the fact that you do not seem to understand the present-day political
and technological reality, we also take this as a serious declaration of war
from yourself, the UK government, to us, Anonymous, the people.
First and foremost, it is important to realize what a DDoS attack exactly is
and what it means in the contemporary political context. As traditional means
of protest (peaceful demonstrations, sit-ins, the blocking of a crossroads
or the picketing of a factory fence) have slowly turned into nothing but an
empty, ritualised gesture of discontent over the course of the last century,
people have been anxiously searching for new ways to pressure politicians
and give voice to public demands in a manner that might actually be able
to change things for the better. Anonymous has, for now, found this new
way of voicing civil protest in the form of the DDoS, or Distributed Denial of
Service, attack. Just as is the case with traditional forms of protest, we block
access to our opponents infrastructure to get our message across. Whether
or not this infrastructure is located in the real world or in cyberspace, seems
completely irrelevant to us.

Moreover, we would like to take this opportunity to set the record straight
on the difference between a DDoS attack and hacking, as these concepts
often seem to be confounded when media and policy-makers talk about
Anonymous. Hacking as such is defined by the law as ‘unauthorised access
to a computer or network’, whereas a DDoS attack is simply a case of
thousands of people making legitimate connections to a publicly accessible
webserver at the same time, using up the entire bandwidth or processing
power of the given server at once and thereby causing a huge ‘traffic jam’.

ANONYMOUS PRESS RELEASE
January 27, 2011
It is clear then, that arresting somebody for taking part in a DDoS attack
is exactly like arresting somebody for attending a peaceful demonstration
in their hometown. Anonymous believes this right to peacefully protest
is one of the fundamental pillars of any democracy and should not be
restricted in any way. Moreover, we have noted that similar attacks have
also been carried out against Wikileaks itself, yet so far, nobody has been
arrested in connection with these attacks, nor are there even any signs
of an investigation into this issue at all. Yet, we know exactly who was
responsible for that attack. Anonymous believes it is unfair and hypocritical
to attempt to put these 5 arrested anons to trial without even attempting to
find those who DDoS’ed a website which you oppose. We can therefore
only assume that these arrests are politically motivated, and were being
carried out under pressure from the US government. Anonymous can not,
and will not, stand idle while this injustice is being done.
Furthermore, the maximum sentence these 5 anons could be given under
the Computer Misuse Act is 10 years imprisonment and a fine of up to
£5000. We want you to realize just how ridiculous these sentences are,
especially given the exact nature of a DDoS attack and its lack of permanent
damage to the target website. To hand out these kinds of harsh sentences
(even to minors!) would effectively ruin their life, taking away their chance
at higher education or even any kind of proper future, simply because they
participated in a peaceful cyber-protest and stood up for their rights. A fine
as high as £5000 would also put an incredible strain on the minors’ families.
We hope that you consider changing the legal framework for what is, at
worst, a minor offense.

And last but not least: The fact that thousands of people from all over the
world felt the need to participate in these attacks on organisations targeting
Wikileaks and treating it as a public threat, rather than a common good,
should be something that sets you thinking. You can easily arrest individuals,
but you cannot arrest an ideology. We are united by a common objective
and we can and WILL cross any borders to achieve that. So our advice to
you, the UK government, is to take this statement as a serious warning from
the citizens of the world. We will not rest until our fellow anon protesters
have been released.

Awaiting your action,
Anonymous

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115 comments // Breaking News // OPEN LETTER FROM ANONYMOUS TO THE UK GOVERNMENT

  • Aurik
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      Aurik  

    • I think some of the posts here themselves are proving to be even more interesting than this letter, nothing against the letter mind you. But as for the topic itself, I have mixed feelings about Anonymous.

      As pointed out the key strength and weakness of the group is that they are anonymous, unfortunately just like any government or business that is not transparent or accountable the group runs the risk of winding up very much like the institutions they claim to target. How do they intend to separate well intended anons from those who wish to exploit the group for their own ends?

      As far as the DDoS attacks and the legality of it, of course its illegal but that doesn't necessarily mean that it is wrong or unethical. There are plenty of protest tactics that are "illegal" but they are effective and perhaps that's why they have become illegal. In many parts of the country it is illegal to organize strikes and its illegal to launch unauthorized demonstrations. Now while this is certainly great from a pro business and stability view it robs the masses one of the few tools we have against the powerful.

      Sometimes it isn't enough to vote, because all the major contenders are already hand picked for us by the establishment, its almost impossible to run for office with out being in bed with the same people one seeks to challenge. It isn't enough to simply bring awareness. Sometimes the only option the people have against our ruling class is to speak in terms they understand: Money. DDoS, like an old fashion sit in makes it difficult to operate, it is difficult to make money and that forces an organization to either sit and wait it out, costing them great sums of money, or negotiate.

      With that said DDoS cannot nor should it replace physical protests, but I would imagine they would go hand in hand beautifully. Think about it, so what if protesters one day seized the Head quarters of a business or institution in an old fashion peaceful sit in? I would imagine it wouldn't be hard for businesses to just continue business from their homes and offices. But a DDoS, if successful, would make that incredibly difficult.

      With that said, protesters need to understand this, actions have consequences and no matter how just a cause is, the law is the law. Martin Luther King new that, and happily went to jail for what he believed in and he certain wasn't the first or the last. You should be prepared to do the same thing if the need arises. A lot has changed from the civil rights era to today, but the risks and dangers of facing the powers that be have only grown.

      I wish you the best of luck, to any one who fights for our rights and liberties and hope someday I can rightfully say that I did too.

    • 1 year ago
  • Rogi_Riverstone
  • gerardange
  • hombre76
  • adamvelvetu
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      adamvelvetu  

    • What bugs me about this is it continues to create this impression that anonymous is some cohesive movement with a central leader or even message. A more effective message would be to say: Ok, now go after the people that made attacks on the Wikileaks server.

    • 1 year ago
  • Stever_B
  • DeliaTheArtist
  • ArchDruid
  • gerardange
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      gerardange  
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    • ArchDruid:

      I have been under DDoS attacks from the Department of Defense Server in Columbus Ohio as we feel were in direct response to a Litigation we had against a government contractor with deep government connections. So, I know what is like to be hit by DDOS and Hacking on our website & email. - First Hand.
      Our Government and Department of Defense (DoD) has the all tools and bandwidth for cyber-warfare and a long history of using DDoS attacks as a cover for Hacking into websites for retrieving information... As was also the case with Wikileaks servers being hacked at the start of all of this... leading us all to where we are today... .

      Yet today Our Government tries to ignore their past track-record. Now acting like they're policing the internet to make is safe for all it's citizens. WELL...DON'T BE FOOLED... Our Government is the biggest offender of internet security out there.. Not Anonymous or Wikileaks...

      Our Government Now Brings in its Muscle and Enforcement tool "The FBI" to go and Terrorize these so called Criminals and lock them up!!! But, as we can see, they are locking up "Children". This is more of and act of terrorizing supporters of free speech and supporters of wikileaks and Anonymous. Warning 10 years in Jail.
      If our Government wants to lock up the real criminals.... Then they should start thinking about arresting themselves!

      THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE HERE BETWEEN >>> HACKING & PROTESTING

      What were are talking about here with "The Anonymous Movement" are only temporary internet sit-ins on Cyber-Streets That is... "NOT HACKING!!!" And That is "NOT THEFT!!!

      THESE ARE TEMPORARY SIT-IN-PROTESTS - To stand up to corruption... and say "NO.

      Today Governments everywhere are nervously looking for ways to stop the truth from getting out... and looking for ways to stop this global movement from moving forward... Our Government here in the USA even brought out the old "Espionage Act of 1917" again as a tie to Capital Punishment and to Wikileaks.

      And Now we can see that the FBI is Arresting Cyber protestors on the Internet.
      ~ HOW FAR DO YOU THINK OUR GOVERNMENT WILL GO TO PROTECT "THEIR OWN STATUS QUO?" ~

      Our Right to Protest:
      Similar to the civil rights marches and anti-war marches & protests of the past ~
      Today... nothing is changed The same ideals the same objections the same people trying to do something good! The same solidarity... The same look in their eyes... The sound of people marching... shouting to let the world know that they should pay attention to what is going on...! The only difference is the in 2011 is.... the people marching are on the "Cyber Streets" these are just as meaningful and just as valid as the Marches of people of the past... These are the marches and the protests of today 2011 Virtual Marches of tens of thousands of people blocking "Cyber Traffic" protesting against Fascism and Oppression... Anywhere it exists...

      What we see happening today.... is "FREE SPEECH" ~ Not hacking... But, The peaceful right to protest... weather it be Marching down the Boulevards or, Marching down the Cyber-Streets with DDoS protests targeted against the ones who threaten our Democracy.... THESE ACTS...ARE ALL PEACEFUL PROTEST... Directed at The forces of Corruption, The forces of Oppression and The forces of Fascism.

      THE REAL THREAT:
      The Real Treat from Terror is not from Wikileaks or from Anonymous... But, from our own Government and from the FBI and the Patriot Act & from FEMA....

      Whose strong armed & iron fist Act today is Targeting it's own Citizens and It's own Children! Where will it stop???

      AMAZINGLY... The FBI refuses to go after Real Corruption and Real Crime with Real Named Government officials and " it's Own Government contractors".
      HERE IS A 2009 VIDEO DEPOSITION:It is very shocking the video testimony of the FBI's own Whistle-Blower who testifies under oath of High Ranking Names and large Amounts $$$ and how the FBI turns a blind eye to blackmail, bribes & espionage...from within the Government.

      So.... See for yourself...Here is the link to the FBI Whistle-Blower Video Deposition ~ http://ow.ly/3g1Uw (It's well worth watching ALL of this "eye opening" & shocking video deposition!)
      Yet...The FBI will chase & terrorize 15 year olds like they're hardened criminals.
      It is a very sad state of affairs... When The FBI is now... Terrorizes Children!!!
      WE SHOULD ALL BE ASKING OURSELVES..... WHAT IS NEXT???

      ~

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • gerardange
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      gerardange  
    • ArchDruid:

      First, great post archdruid!

      (1) As for my knowledge of the Anonymous Movement with The Church of Scientology... Hadn't a clue that these guys even existed... prior to Wikileaks finances being targeted by MasterCard Visa Paypal & Amazon... It was after that point when I had any knowledge of Anonymous .

      As to use The Church of Scientology to establishing a valid working model of a success or failure... I think that is weak comparison - at best. Solely on the fact that the Church of Scientology is not a Democracy...
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      (2) [quote] But the fact is, in the UK DDoS attacks are illegal. What do these attacks create in the end? Nothing! [end quote]

      That is open-ended question... Unless you understand fully what the objectives were in the beginning you can never know if those objectives were reached or not. so to conclude " Nothing!" is purely presumption on your part.
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      (3) [quote] Weather The Church of Scientology still exists or not [end quote] " Unless you understand fully what the objectives were in the beginning you can never know if those objectives were reached or not. so to conclude anything! is again pure presumption on your part only.

      After looking into the ongoing Scientology & Anonymous connection... I still don't get it... And actually I couldn't care less about The Church of Scientology... So with that said... I will move forward to what I really care more about... Freedom and Fighting Corruption.
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      (3)[quote] The action of a DDoS is "an attack" and Anonymous frequently use phrases like "declare war" both the DDoS attacks and these kind of statements will give reason to governments to increase their control over the use of the internet.[end quote]
      In the world we live today....Any Government will do what ever they want to do... they don't need words as an excuse to do anything...

      Net-Neutrality it wasn't killed by words... I was killed by Corporations and Government leaders working against the interests of their citizens.... and making billions at a loss to public interest.
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      (4)[quote] Online petitions, demonstrations outside the offices of PayPal, MasterCard, Amazon etc? Flash crowds would be another interesting one..[end quote]

      Yes those methods you mention are options of protest as well. as in the rule of normal business principals. But let us not forget that their attacks against the finances of Wikileaks were "first unjustified" and second "a violation of Due process and the principals of democracy". The involvement of PayPal, MasterCard, Amazon and Visa... was not a Business or commerce related issue. (though it was disguised as such.) Their action started as a fascist attack economic attack on the truth by [Joe Lieberman ] against wikileaks. To put it politely Lieberman's mob like backroom attacks were not becoming to a free and just society. I can see and feel the outrage of many people out there... and their desire to come to the aid of the defense of wikileaks...

      But.... that is all behind us now... we need to look forward to the future.
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      (5)[quote] WikiLeaks should have been aware more than most, that before they published the recent leaks that their servers would be attacked, and taken actions, to prevent it from happening & What was WikiLeaks thinking when they thought they could release the US documents from a server from a private company like Amazon. [end quote]

      By saying that... you also say "that our government systems are corrupt to the core... and we live with the cloud of "Fascism" without any just Judicial rule of Law.
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      (6)[quote] Anonymous should be attacking the governments who requested/demanded those private companies pull the plugs on WikiLeaks.[end quote]

      That fact Wikileaks even under verbal death threats and cyber & economic attacks ... Wikiuleaks or, Julian Assange never attacked back... That says so much... Regardless of what "Spin" the guilty and gullable put on all of this... The fact is... This is all about "content and data" wikileaks is an orginzation that collects data & content and distributes that data... Wikileaks is a model of non-violence that Gandhi would be proud of.

      The only violence and threats of death and threats of incarceration are coming from the people who have great reason to be fearful... These people hiding behind their positions in the government who broke the trust of their positions they hold and the citizens that they represent...Their fear the Truth and that they will be exposed as corrupt.
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      If The media were in fact doing their jobs reporting all the news there would be nothing for wikileaks to expose.

      If no one had anything to fear this would be a non-story.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • Vierotchka
  • toyotabedzrock
  • noxidereus
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      noxidereus  

    • Do not let the media define the lexicon. It is a tried-and-true technique of the media that is used to control public opinion. Using the word 'hackers' or 'cyber-terrorists' to describe peaceful protesters is a prime example. It's nefarious intent is transparent, yet easily missed by casual observers: to confuse the viewer's perception of the reality of the situation, and with purposeful deceit, to actively mold the emotional response and thus the opinion of the viewer.

    • 1 year ago
  • kennymotown
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      kennymotown  

    • One of my best attributes is my sense of humor and I find that the exposure of some very week ineffective means employed by a Fascist Government whoever's Government that may be, quite hilarious! Judgment day is coming, and yes those who believe in whatever they believe will be judged. Unfortunately corrupt Government supervisors following orders from Fascist overlords will be dealt with appropriately (Nuremberg trials) You see there are no good little Nazi's in the end!

    • 1 year ago
  • good_stuff
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      good_stuff  

    • I called this. Much better to rebrand it as a protest than try to call it an attack. They need to remove their declarations of war from the letter though. That will not buy them points with a jury if they are to be tried.

    • 1 year ago
  • theblackveil
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      theblackveil  
    • good_stuff:

      Totally agree about the last point.

      This is pretty damn phenomenal, regardless. Right up until they mentioned "declarations of war," this whole letter sounded ridiculously well put together.

    • 1 year ago
  • extracrazykiwi2008
  • 63pmacp
  • Paisano1
  • gerardange
    • +4
      gerardange  
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    • Paisano1:

      Anthony, I see you're back beating the Drum for Fascism again ~ like the good soldier you are!

      And again.... You are proving yet another important fact! That The Real Treat from Terror is not from Wikileaks or from Anonymous... But, from our own government from the FBI and the Patriot Act.... WOW!!!! An Act of Targeting it's own citizens! How very, very commendable!

      The FBI refuses to go after the real corruption and crime in our government or with "it's own government contractors" even it's very own FBI Whistle-Blower testifies under oath the FBI turns a blind eye to blackmail, bribes & espionage...

      See for yourself...
      Here is the link to the FBI Whistle-Blower Video Deposition ~ http://ow.ly/3g1Uw
      { It's well worth watching all of this "eye opening" & shocking video deposition ! }

      But yet...The FBI will chase & terrorize 15 year olds like they're hardened criminals.

      Such a sad state of affairs... The FBI now... Terrorizing Children!!!

      ~

    • 1 year ago
  • CaptSutter
    • +1
      CaptSutter  
    • gerardange:

      That is really unfair. Paisano republishes the FBI Press Release and you accuse him of being a Facist. Does he have to editorialize and say "LOOK HOW EVIL THE FBI IS!" I think it is more important to know that Gov in UK and USA are doing the same, whether or not it is evil.

      Rather contradictory to denounce him and use the "Dissent is Patriotic" JPEG.

    • 1 year ago
  • gerardange
  • Paisano1
  • TGolem
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      TGolem  

    • If someone does not like a civil protest then i suggest they consider the alternative which is uncivil and violent protest. So i suggest they get used to civil protests such a DDoS and respect the people protesting's right to protest and have their voices heard, or else these people will have no real voice in this world and these people are just like you.

      You may not like it but there will always be protests in the world, civil and nonviolent ones are the best kind of protest for everyone involved.

    • 1 year ago
  • Daena_Smith
    • +4
      Daena_Smith  

    • I have to give credit to anon for standing up and taking action to fight the corrupt Govt.s and businesses across the globe. Anon is the hornet's nest and it's been stirred up...exciting times to come!

    • 1 year ago
  • Daena_Smith
    • +5
      Daena_Smith  
    • ArchDruid:

      And are you saying it's ok for companies to do the bidding of the US Govt cutting off anyone the US chooses? Is it OK for VISA or MasterCard to dictate to their debit and credit card customers with whom they may do business with? Freedom always comes at a cost and if it means I can't connect to Paypal for a day, then so be it.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • Daena_Smith
    • +3
      Daena_Smith  
    • ArchDruid:

      I didn't say Paypal dictates did I? Hmmmmm, let me read my post again.....nope guess I didn't. What I did say is MC and Visa dictates their debit and credit card usage. They also stopped people from donating to WikiLeaks, per the request of the US Gov't.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • mitekillem
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      mitekillem  
    • ArchDruid:

      It's DDoS. Distributed Denial of Service.
      If computers did not exist, then what would happen is you would have a group of people calling the company ad nausium, keeping actual business calls from coming in, or even jamming fax lines.

      Is that a crime?
      No. Neither should this be. It's the exact same thing.

      If Pay Pal, Visa, Master Card had a physical presence through which you could make and complete transactions, then those would not be affected. The lack of such a physical presence, such as the Book Store you referred to, is the fault of the companies, not the attackers.

    • 1 year ago
  • gerardange
    • +5
      gerardange  
    • ArchDruid:

      archdruid@ The fact is that everyone of us needs to look at the larger picture.... We need to weigh out all the really ugly alternatives and understand what future is facing all of us.... .....And think of the alternative if we just did nothing.... How would our world be like then?

      Then we should understand that because of the seriousness and enormity of what is facing all of us.... That maybe if we all sacrifice a very little.... To stop the corruption that is destroying our world. And in return..... so we still can all enjoy the freedoms of a free and open internet... and free speech ~ And, just maybe... along the way... in Tunisia, Algeria, Lebanon and Palestine and root out some of the root causes of corruption and social injustice that causes terrorism... Then, we might all be better off... Maybe then the world will be a better place.

      Unfortunately the world we are living in today is far from perfect... and in order to try and adjust the direction we are all heading... And prosecute the corrupt players profiting on the misery of innocent people.... It is a small price to pay if we have to make some temporary adjustments for the greater good.

      History shows us... that if we all keep going the direction we are all going today .... What you said above: "That being prevented from entering by a crowd at the book store door" ~ That.... will be the very least of all our problems.

      It is not easy on anyone.

      Gerard

    • 1 year ago
  • thelastwheeler
    • +1
      thelastwheeler  
    • ArchDruid:

      If you chose to go to a library that had a part in restricting free speech and you failed to push past protesters to further yours and their agenda without regard for the common wealth. Then the protesters have done there job, and YOU are the enemy.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • thelastwheeler
  • thelastwheeler
  • ArchDruid
  • thelastwheeler
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      thelastwheeler  
    • ArchDruid:

      Hardly. all i know of you is what you have written. perhaps it is hard for you to see yourself through others eyes. However I do believe (through past experience) that my words carry great weight. I caution you when revealing yourself to others. you may not like what they see.(frikn spell check)

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • Ragan
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      Ragan  
    • ArchDruid:

      I wouldn't dignify a response to your comment except read some history over the past 100 years and get with the act. This is a world supported and paid for by all people including the ANON's and has been abused and committed many crimes without being held accountable and this has been happening for the past 233 years by self serving politicians and not by the people.

    • 1 year ago
  • thelastwheeler
  • Paisano1
  • Itsbatman_Durr
    • -3
      Itsbatman_Durr  

    • boring as fuck, sorry

      part of the umm 'putting yourself out there' factor of being an uber kewl protester is the recognition that you could face repercussions for standing up for your beliefs. guess what (script) kiddiez.. youre now facing real life repercussions.

      while i support anon's right to protest and actually vaguely agree with their new definition of a cyber sit in, to threaten however carefully worded a government to release so called political prisoners is just goofy, and smacks of terrorism. the fact that any bonehead on 4chan can write a so called letter claiming to represent 'anon' or make a nifty youtube with a jolly guy fawkes mask only adds to the silliness here.

      sorry guys youre hearts are in the right place at times, but you are being hypocritical at best to not face the repercussions for having the courage of your convictions and facing the consequences.

    • 1 year ago
  • gerardange
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • unimatrix0
    • +13
      unimatrix0  

    • The UK gov is making martyrs out of the Anonymous 5. This will only further and strengthen the cause of Anonymous.

      I appreciate the work Anonymous has done to expose the fraud and hypocrisy of Scientology.

    • 1 year ago
  • Prijedor
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      Prijedor  

    • I wonder if that guy Julian (wiki owner that got arrested) will use any of his 1mill+ of money he got from the book deal to help these people that got arrested

    • 1 year ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • TaGgInUrBlOcKuP
  • Itsbatman_Durr
    • 0
      Itsbatman_Durr  
    • TaGgInUrBlOcKuP:

      what of import did wikileaks release that pretty much was common knowledge, in spirit if not in specifics? lets hear what amazing info they revealed to the world that will change something, anything for the better.

      so yeah, a media whore rapist who cares less about anything constructive than he does about his q ratings and pandering. oh and getting more women doped up so he can molest them in their sleep.

      i defy anyone to show anything in wikileaks that was an 'holy shit' moment where you were like OMG i cannot believe (fill in the blank) would have said/done such a thing, and the fact that they would NEVER crossed my mind because i had such faith in he/she/them before

    • 1 year ago
  • Prijedor
  • zHellas
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      zHellas  

    • I wonder when Anonymous will start fucking everybody over...

      Or maybe if Wikileaks leaks the private & personal info of everyone in Anonymous.

      The latter was just something funny I read in XKCD, the former is something I'm really waiting for.

    • 1 year ago
  • toastyguy11
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • toastyguy11
  • Itsbatman_Durr
  • gerardange
    • +5
      gerardange  
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    • 1Paisano1 @

      Our Main Stream Media here in the USA is a form of censorship... What should be a wake-up call to all of us in the United States: Is when the people outside of our US borders know more about what happening inside our country than it's own citizens do... "THAT IS CENSORSHIP!"

      Let us not confuse the two, like {Paisano1} is trying to do with DDoS.

      Lets put everything in a perspective... that everyone can understand.

      In 2011 ~ our world has evolved. Today, technology has taken the world to new places.... Places that didn't exist before... Today... We again find ourselves at a point of again exercising the fundamentals of the pillars of democracy... "Peaceful Non-Violent Protest"

      These are "new and exciting times".... Our need for Peaceful Non-Violent protest is still the same! But... the technology has changed....

      Just as in the days of Martin Luther King Jr. "Marching in the streets" stopping the flow of traffic. An act of protest.... Forcing all people to take notice of something of great importance to all the citizens!!!

      In 2011 we find ourselves "Marching in the Cyber-streets".... Protesting and voicing a Peaceful Non-Violent protest stopping the flow of cyber-traffic.

      AND AGAIN.... Forcing all people to take notice of something of great importance to all the people!!!

      Nothing has changed...

      Peaceful Non-Violent protest stopping the flow of cyber-traffic.

      ~

    • 1 year ago
  • Paisano1
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      Paisano1  

    • http://https://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/11407-Anonymous-Calls-UK-Arrests-a-Declaration-of-War.html

      "DDoS attacks are a form of censorship, plain and simple, and they are used to prevent the free flow of information. Distributed denial of service campaigns can incur significant costs for the targets, and also result in collateral damage to third party nodes not targeted in the attack. The fact that the attacks undertaken by members of Anonymous seek to be clandestine in nature negates any valid comparison to true acts of civil disobedience and public protest in which participants openly put themselves and their reputations on the line to fight for what they believe in. Anonymous DDoS attacks are anarchistic acts of censorship fueled by a mob mentality similar to that seen in a mass book burning..."

      https://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/11407-Anonymous-Calls-UK-Arrests-a-Declar...

    • 1 year ago
  • Swisher
  • gerardange
    • +7
      gerardange  
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    • Paisano1:

      The Costs of Fighting Fascism.... are minor compared with the Oppression, torture and violations of human rights that would continue if nothing was done...

      As some choose "like yourself" to reprimand and criticize those that do... Those (Like paisano1) who continue to criticize show us clearly... that they are comfortable being on the other-side...comfortable with Fascism, comfortable with Oppression. Their actions show all of us they support the existing "government authoritarian status quo".

      Which it is plain to see that in all of (paisano1) writings.

      Thankfully today there are those of us... who are willing to stand up ! and, do the bold thing ~ the correct thing!

      The time has come for: Marching down the Boulevards and also, Marching on the Cyber-Streets! We need to stand up to corruption... and not ignore it!

      Anonymous as do I, believe this right to peacefully protest is one of the fundamental pillars of any democracy and should not be restricted in any way.

      What we see happening today.... is IN FACT: "FREE SPEECH in 2011" ~ The peaceful right to protest... weather it be Marching down the Boulevards or, Marching down the Cyber-Streets with DDoS protests.... It is all peaceful protest targeted against the ones who threaten our Democracy.... OUR ACTS...ARE ALL... NON-VIOLENT PEACEFUL PROTEST- Directed at The forces of Corruption, The forces of Oppression and, The forces of fascism.

      This is our choice.... And, this is our voice... so let it be heard clearly and, loudly!

      Martin Luther King said: "

      The hottest place in hell is reserved for those who remain neutral in times of great moral conflict.

      ~

    • 1 year ago
  • Paisano1
  • Vierotchka
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      Paisano1  
    • Vierotchka:

      Honestly, no disrespect intended, but I thought that Lech Walesa, Liu Xiaobo, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, and Daw Aung San Suu Kyi are real names, not aliases. Correct me if I am wrong about that.

    • 1 year ago
  • Betico
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    • Paisano1:

      [ Begin Paisano1 Quote:]
      "I am all for disrupting power centers, that is what makes democracy and freedom so powerful, but please have the guts to do it un-anonymously. The only reason you can quote MLK is because he had the courage to openly put himself on the line for what he believed in. The quote you cited would not mean diddly if it were by "Anonymous".[End Paisano1 Quote]

      Logic: Okay Why?

      We all know what happen to Martin Luther King... And we all know that assassination is a well used tool used by Fascist Governments... Yet you want people to be like MLK???

      I don't get your logic at all... Maybe check to see if your heater is well ventilated? It seems that your logic severely impaired...

      LETS TRY AGAIN:
      So what is your point?

      Are you saying.... That, everyone should make it easy on the Guilty & Corrupt Governments out there and FEMA and ~ be man enough to volunteer to paint a target on your back???? Is that what you had in mind?

      What makes the Anonymous movement so very powerful against all Corrupt Governments everywhere.... is the fact that it is an "Anonymous" Movement.

      How can the guilty or FEMA destroy the truth and with an opponent is hidden and has no one single location and thousands different locations?

      Answer: They Can't !

      Going after Anonymous is like.... trying to grab the wind...

      So with that said.... Let it be known.

      That in 2011, technology has giving power back to the people...

      This is a message to all the Fascists out there everywhere...

      Be on notice: Your day is coming. !!!

      The truth... shall set us all free!

      ~

    • 1 year ago
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    • Betico:

      Yep - and he himself pretty much predicted as much. Julian Assange could have chosen to remain anonymous, but he has the guts to put himself on the line for what he believes in.

    • 1 year ago
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    • Paisano1:

      As we are all observing today.... there seems to be a tsunami of fear coming from all directions on the Fascist side....

      As for the Non-Fascist Side... The Non-Fascist Protestors.... are just using all their brain cells. and they reserve they're "Right to be Anonymous"...

      And what is left....

      Non-Fascist Side... knows who "all.the Fascists" are.... and the Fascists don't know who all the legions of Anonymous Non-Fascist Protesters are...

      The advantage is.... with Anonymous.

      That's is a smart thing.

      And the only thing that Fascists and corrupt Corporations have to fear... Is The Truth!

      That's a good thing!

    • 1 year ago
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      Robotic091  

    • I never looked at the attacks on those businesses as protests before, and i like it! if this can be another form of protest its kinda cool that i don't have to leave my house or (w/ my laptop) anywhere i like.

    • 1 year ago
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      Masive7554  

    • This is dumb because both sides can be shown as being wrong.
      The UK Government for doing either what they think is right, or for falling for the intimidation of the United States Government.
      The entity of Anonymous for attempting to stand up to an entity that supposedly hs more power than itself, or for yelling at the government for being a big poo-head and following it's own laws.
      This entire argument is dumb, and people who side for only one side after seeing just one article are dumb people.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • Buddha2112
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      Buddha2112  
    • Masive7554:

      the dumb argument and the 'sides' you see are incorrect.

      For one, the entity of anonymous is not an entity. It is the people who are acting out in protest, albeit collectively. How can you side with a 'group' that does not exist? Siding with anything after only one argument is silly, but entirely plausible, especially when one group of peoples ideology is more in line with democracy and freedom than the actual governments persecuting these individuals. Not all laws are fair, not all laws do good, yet governments worldwide insist on enforcing bogus laws at gun point. If you sit by and let these things continue to take control of our lives, we will no longer be human. Anonymous has never done anything wrong... Ever. The only wrong doings were done by individuals who decided to unite under the banner of anonymity.

      Anonymous is anonymous... Why are people so confused thinking their an actual organization with a hierarchy? The answer lies within our media and the propaganda spewed by governments who actually seriously afraid of people uprising and using their rights (irl or in cyberspace). Anonymous is ALL of us, it is nowhere near on the level as a government, nor comparable by any means.

    • 1 year ago
  • Buddha2112
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      toyotabedzrock  

    • So they arrested 5 people in the same age group as the people who invaded the Conservative party headquarters.

      Then they bragged about them being part of Anon.

      That wasn't to smart.

    • 1 year ago
  • ArchDruid
  • Vierotchka
  • ImConcerned
  • CarlosIsDown
  • ArchDruid
  • Novek
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    • The Costs of Fighting Fascism.... are minor compared with the Oppression, torture and violations of human rights that would continue if nothing was done...

      As some choose "to do nothing" and, to reprimand and criticize those that do... Those that do nothing but criticize show us... that they are comfortable with Fascism, comfortable with Oppression, and comfortable with the ongoing violations of human rights. Their actions show all of us they support the existing status quo.

      Thankfully today we now see more and more of us who are willing to stand up !

      I salute all of us who choose to stand up and, do the bold thing ~ the correct thing!

      We have one chance to make this world right again.... Before us... we have the tools ... And... using those tools... We have the power... To make a statement, to make social change and, to voice our solidarity! ~

      The time has come for: Marching down the Boulevards and, Marching on the Cyber-Streets!
      "WE NEED TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD GLOBALLY!" . We need to stand up to corruption... and not ignore it!

      Anonymous as do I, believe this right to peacefully protest is one of the fundamental pillars of any democracy and should not be restricted in any way.

      This is our choice.... And, this is our voice...

      As a people, we all have to look in the mirror and ask ourselves " Is doing nothing part of the problem?

      And if that answer is YES... Then, making the personal commitment and, personal choice to be "a solution to that problem". A choice to use your voice... and, the power before you.... To exercise that right... To stand up to corruption... and say NO... that isn't Okay! and... not to ignore it!
      What we see happening today.... is "FREE SPEECH" ~ The peaceful right to protest... weather it be Marching down the Boulevards or, Marching down the Cyber-Streets with DDoS protests.... targeted against the ones who threaten our Democracy.... OUR ACTS...ARE ALL PEACEFUL PROTEST Directed at The forces of Corruption, The forces of Oppression and The forces of fascism.

      This is our choice.... And, this is our voice... so let it be heard clearly and, loudly!

      Martin Luther King said: "

      The hottest place in hell is reserved for those who remain neutral in times of great moral conflict.

      ~

    • 1 year ago
  • mitekillem
  • CarlosIsDown
  • Vierotchka
  • Daena_Smith
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    • CarlosIsDown:

      Yeah...but other masks are just creepy.

      But also Guy Fawkes is symbolic for the Gunpowder Plot of 1605. It was an attempt to over throw the government of the time (King James). It's symbolic of revolution and overthrowing totalitarian governments.

      Plus the guy just looks totally suave and debonair. :D

    • 1 year ago
  • mitekillem
  • Vierotchka
  • gerardange
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      gerardange  
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    • Un hacker français de 15 ans «cerveau» d’une cyberattaque mondiale

      C’est une interpellation aussi discrète que sa cible. Le 16 décembre, les gendarmes ont placé en garde à vue un adolescent de 15 ans, qui, depuis le domicile familial, a mené avec des complices basés à l’étranger une attaque mondiale contre plusieurs sites Internet, selon nos informations. Parmi les sites visés : Mastercard, Paypal ou même celui de l’ancienne candidate républicaine à la Maison-Blanche, Sarah Palin.

      SUR LE MÊME SUJET
      L'«Opération Riposte» des hackers pro-AssangeNotre dossier WikiLeaks
      WikiLeaks : Assange placé à l'isolement «pour sa propre sécurité»Affaire Assange : 28 jours entre le mandat d'arrêt et la remise en liberté

      Féru d’informatique, ce jeune hacker gérait depuis sa chambre plusieurs serveurs dont certains hébergés aux Etats-Unis et aux Pays-Bas. Ces serveurs avaient participé à «l’opération riposte» menée par le groupe «Anonymous» pour défendre le site Wikileaks de Julian Assange, qui avait publié des documents diplomatiques confidentiels des Etats-Unis. Face à la décision de certaines prestataires comme Mastercard ou Paypal de priver Wikileaks de ses services financiers après ces révélations, les membres d’Anonymous avaient coordonné en décembre une série d’attaques qui avaient bloqué plusieurs sites.

      La division cybercriminalité du Service technique de recherches judiciaires et de documentation (STRJD) de la gendarmerie a alors mobilisé ses experts pour remonter la piste de ce jeune pirate français qui a été auditionné quelques heures avant d’être remis en liberté.

      Deux enquêtes se poursuivent actuellement en France pour tenter d’identifier d’autres pirates de la mouvance «Anonymous».

      GO TO THE STORY:
      http://www.leparisien.fr/wikileaks-tempete-sur-la-diplomatie-americaine/un-hacke...

    • 1 year ago
  • Paisano1
  • NiceN
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      NiceN  

    • I am glad that someone is watching over the corruption and injustice of governments around the globe. Thank goodness for the internet, without it we may not hold each others hands throughout the world.

    • 1 year ago
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