2045: The Year Man Becomes Immortal
source: http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138,00.html#ixzz1DiEM3YDO
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True? True.
So if computers are getting so much faster, so incredibly fast, there might conceivably come a moment when they are capable of something comparable to human intelligence. Artificial intelligence. All that horsepower could be put in the service of emulating whatever it is our brains are doing when they create consciousness — not just doing arithmetic very quickly or composing piano music but also driving cars, writing books, making ethical decisions, appreciating fancy paintings, making witty observations at cocktail parties.
If you can swallow that idea, then all bets are off. From that point on, there's no reason to think computers would stop getting more powerful. They would keep on developing until they were far more intelligent than we are. Their rate of development would also continue to increase, because they would take over their own development from their slower-thinking human creators. Imagine a computer scientist that was itself a super-intelligent computer. It would work incredibly quickly. It could draw on huge amounts of data effortlessly. It wouldn't even take breaks to play Farmville.
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Pawper
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Don't throw the human nature baby out with the transhumanism bath water
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Pawper
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UtopianSky
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I posted this article too, btw.
http://current.com/technology/92980810_2045-the-year-man-becomes-immortal.htm
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UtopianSky
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rodstradamus
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I'd rather be a human than a robot. Just b/c you're a loser, who hates your life, doesn't mean we all have to become slaves to the technotronic era.
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rodstradamus
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vinicius
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rodstradamus:
Based on your response I'd say we're already there.
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vinicius
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UtopianSky
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rodstradamus:
Why do you consider freedom to be slavery?
Why do you consider wanting immortality to being a loser?
I would think a loser would want to end it all, and a winner would want to extend their life more. - 1 year ago
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UtopianSky
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XasthurNortt
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXw6znXPfy4
A little too much Singularity is Near shiznit aye!
- 1 year ago
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XasthurNortt
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Saladin
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The problem with this line of reasoning is that it assumes that computers are "getting smarter."
This is not the case.
Computers are already "smarter" than people in a sense, since the entire reasonwe use them is that they can do a million calculations a second whereas it can take us 30 seconds to do just one.
But that's not relevant because computers, believe it or not, are MACHINES. In the literal sense of that word.
Even if we made a computer a billion times more powerful than they are right now, you would not develop an AI. A computer would no more develop intelligence because of speed than your car become autonomous because of an engine a million times more efficient and fast.
Computers run on algorithms and logic gates, they take in input and spit out output.
Until we can literally redesign them to emulate human intelligence, which can learn and reason on its own, then it doesn't matter how fast a computer is, it's not any more intelligent than your toaster is.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the coming singularity. I'm a tranhumanist. But we need to be realistic about when we can actually expect AI, and the bottom line is that we can't expect it at all until we figure out how intelligence and the human brain works, which we're still a ways off from doing.
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Saladin
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XasthurNortt
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Saladin:
There will be no need for humans, the non-biological entities will not allow you or any human to be upgraded nor uploaded. Well.......... maybe the first human to become a post-human machine will be linked to everything via absolute grid of information and network....
lol
But He/She (most likely a him and rich) will have gained a god-like power while the human side will become greedy and eliminate any threat/opponent that will challenge it's new superior shell. Becoming a master to all living and non-living (robots) slaves and be a god among insects.or I'm wrong c==3
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XasthurNortt
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UtopianSky
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Saladin:
I agree- I'm betting more on the biological singularity then the technological one.
We can achieve more by upgrading the organic computers we already have inside us rather than building new electronic ones from scratch.
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UtopianSky
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lightningthunderfox
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i understand how self awarness leads to consciousness, and computers will someday get that (or already have). But while we are in humanities 101, how does this fit in with the Floating Man thought experiment. that is would the computer realy ever be able to become real.
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lightningthunderfox
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Ophiuchus
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In this age of aquarius, as we go threw the navel of time, our understanding will seem to speed up, along with our inventions like computer's. Among the Indigo, Crystal and Rainbow children like www.AkianeKramarike.com there are millions like her and somehow are unaware that they exist. We seem to think that an Avatar has a blue face, but like the India Avatar, or 'Indigo', they have [blue] Aura's. While many of the children born after 1948, when Israel became into being again, many of those children communicate on the 'grid', which some call telepathy. To say computer's will out smart us, is only true to those that don't know who we really are. To understand this, one can Google Indigo Children and learn what an Avatar really is. P.S., I am new to this site, and am trying to learn my way around here.
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Ophiuchus
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vinicius
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Ophiuchus:
WTF?
P.S. Avatar? Really? - 1 year ago
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vinicius
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UtopianSky
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vinicius:
Not the movie- the original Hindu religious concept of an Avatar is a god's manifestation on earth in human form.
Krishna is an avatar of Vishnu.
Jesus is an avatar of Yehveh. - 1 year ago
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UtopianSky
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Ajoyshop
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I love how this author relishes in the thought that humans could one day be replaced by machines. I myself would like to see a day when human intelligence is expanded so that we don't require machines as much. Our focus should be human intelligence, ascension, actual immortality even. I see a future with a harmonious relationship with technology where humans are the grander. Not some sky net type future where we practically ask the machines to annihilate us by putting them in control of our entire military and nuclear arsenal. How foolish!
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Ajoyshop
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therealpixie
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Unless they develop an ego, I think we'd be okay.
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therealpixie
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LivingPong
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Many assumptions about the progress of technology are often subject to inaccuracies. As time passes, unforeseeable events may occur that can drastically alter ones vision of the future.
There are many variables that could hasten or slow the advance of Artificial Intelligence and computing. Lack of resources, war and human opposition could hold back development. On the other hand, breakthroughs in fibre optics and photonic circuits could rapidly speed up development.
The major problem is actually creating an Artificial Intelligence that can even begin to learn in a similar manor to a human. All the computing power in the world could not even compete with the complexities involved with the learning abilities of a four year old child. Trying to create an AI that could reason somewhere in the vicinity of a mature adult is a staggeringly difficult prospect.
A robot vacuum cleaner is a simple task. AI comparable to a human intelligence is akin to a grain of sand compared to the entire solar system. It's a momentous challenge. Though humans never cease to amaze me with their ingenuity.
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LivingPong
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uptop
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Two words: Battlestar Gallactica.
So basically, we can destroy the human race ourselves or let them save it, then enslave it. Either way we're fucked.
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uptop
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Mr_Brainwash
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Machines have been replacing humans by the thousands ever since the cotton gin was invented by Eli Whitney. Our lives are not better for it, people are literally starving in American streets and the richest men seem to create... well nothing really. I think it is plausible to think computers will proliferate in the "Sci Fi" manner you mention. The effects of that are already known.
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Mr_Brainwash
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lightningthunderfox
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Mr_Brainwash:
if we werent slaves, we could use tech. to make life badass. everyone would have what they needed. food would not be under lock and key were we have to work 8 hours a day to get it... no one would need to work because the little upkeep on the machines would be a volunteer service. (fans of Daniel Quinn)
p.s. Mr brainwash the artist sucks, he nothin more then a follower and a narcasist. Banksy saw he was a failer but helped him succeed to get more money.
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lightningthunderfox
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Mr_Brainwash
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lightningthunderfox:
Agreed and Agreed. I'm really a long time Banksy fan, but the mistake he made was creating a zombie that can't be killed, which makes me lol.
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Mr_Brainwash
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remanns
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Heh - - -Just upload me into the "cloud", and reboot me when I am a god !
+^d
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remanns
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Pheena187
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remanns:
Have you read information on "the cloud"? What do you think/feel about it?
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Pheena187
