Record low Arctic sea ice extent for January
source: http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Record_Low_Arctic_Sea_Ice_Extent_for_January_999.html
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This image shows the average Arctic sea ice concentration for January 2011, based on observations from the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer for EOS (AMSR-E) aboard NASA's Aqua satellite.
Blue indicates open water; white indicates high sea ice concentrations; and turquoise indicates loosely packed sea ice. The yellow line shows the average sea ice extent for January from 1979 through 2000.
NSIDC reported that ice extent was unusually low in Hudson Bay, Hudson Strait, and Davis Strait in the early winter. Normally frozen over by late November, these areas did not completely freeze until mid-January 2011. The Labrador Sea was also unusually ice-free.
NSIDC offered two possible explanations. One reason is the Arctic Oscillation (AO), a seesaw pattern of differences in atmospheric pressure.
In "positive" mode, the AO includes high pressure over the mid-latitudes and low pressure over the Arctic, setting up wind patterns that trap cold air in the far North.
In "negative" mode, air pressure isn't quite as low over the Arctic and isn't quite as high over the mid-latitudes. This enables cold air to creep south and relatively warm air to move north.
The AO was in negative mode in December 2010 and January 2011, according to the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).
At mid-latitudes, the negative mode resulted in extremely cold temperatures and heavy snow in Europe and North America. At the same time, warm air over the Arctic impeded sea ice growth. NOAA has forecast that the AO should return to positive mode in February 2011, but for how long was unclear.
Another factor in the low Arctic sea ice extent, NSIDC explained, could be that the areas of open ocean were still releasing heat to the atmosphere. Due to its bright appearance, sea ice reflects most of the Sun's light and heat back into space. Dark ocean water, by contrast, absorbs most of that energy and reinforces the melting process.
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arbil333
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maybe the space aliens have some way to get water,since they can fly millions of miles threw space? we beter hurry up and get in touch with them. were running out of time !
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arbil333
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theres just to many problems in the world.there really is
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arbil333
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arbil333
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now that we know,now what?
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arbil333
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arbil333
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dont look good...........for our great geat greast great great grand kids
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arbil333
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arbil333
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so why not go make it rain over there.we do know how to do that
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arbil333
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arbil333
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so is it gonna be a drout or not?
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tommic
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I had read this earlier and failed to post it great post, the air circulation around earth is changing the climate change is bringing about wilder swings in jet streams and ocean currents and temps, changing its no wonder change is happening while we all still argue about it
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tommic
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coolplanet
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tommic:
The U.S. government won't take action until geoengineering the atmosphere is a last resort.
We must INDIVIDUALLY take action by driving as little as possible in a hybrid vehicle, turning off lights and TVs when leaving a room, cutting back on eating beef, installing a reflective roof and, most importantly, planting as many evergreen trees as possible. - 2 years ago
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coolplanet:
geoengineering is certain death, messing with nature acting as its master is sure to end in disaster
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tommic:
When you really think about it we have been geoengineering the atmosphere for centuries with our industrial greenhouse gasses.
And, technically, planting forests is a form of geoengineering the land and sky.
We must learn as much as we can about all forms of geoengineering in order to know what we are talking about.
Agricultural biochar and Arctic cloud whitening are not bad ideas. - 2 years ago
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coolplanet:
touche' I like your out of the box thinking, actually truth to what you say, its just now magnitudes greater with ever bigger and crazier solutions to self made problems, with proactive thinking such drastic solutions would not be necessary in the scheme of things, but you are right, expecting man to be proactive is a futile lesson in despair.
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tommic
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Persecuted
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now where are the nay-sayers that say global warming doesnt exist because its cold in michigan in february?
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Mr_Brainwash
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Persecuted:
lulz I luv those guys. "what do you mean global warming!? look at all this snow!"
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Wolverineusmm
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As long as we have greedy lobbyists and big business making the rules, all we can doing is voice our opinion and hope we get enough people to do something about it. Until then, the masses are content with American Idol and Fear Factor.
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coolplanet
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Wolverineusmm:
To get enough people to do something about it why not throw a tree-planting party with free beer?
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coolplanet
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alleyhopper
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coolplanet:
You bring the beer & I'll bring a tree.
I'll even plant my tree.................*¿*
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coolplanet
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alleyhopper:
Hell, I'll bring a keg of German beer, plenty of compost and 50 sequoia saplings if you bring the shovels and people!
;~} - 2 years ago
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coolplanet
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All I can say is... buy some heirloom seeds. They're ridiculously cheap, and could save your life before it's all said and done. I live in an apartment, but am starting a patio garden this year. AnniesHeirloomSeeds.com and BountifulGardens.org are good places to start. A water distiller would probably be a wise investment, as well.
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beSustainable
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extracrazykiwi2008
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Once I have a yard, I will plant several fast growing trees!
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coolplanet
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extracrazykiwi2008:
I've run out of room to plant trees in my year and started asking neighbors if I could plant trees in their yards at my own expense. So far I've planted 18 in my neighborhood and offer to water and fertilize them for free.
If you live in an apartment with a sunny patio there are numerous small trees that do well in large pots. I recommend the dwarf Alberta spruce and black bamboo depending on your climate zone. - 2 years ago
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socalbrat84
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perhaps the poles are changing position?!
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twinite
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And yet there are those who still will not see....... I have no idea what the answers are here or even if we still have time to consider options, frankly I doubt it. The planet as we know it is changing...and if our only response to it is to continue the debate, then we're all screwed.
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twinite:
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'member when janis was singin live in the counter-culture revolution?
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it was environmental awareness and zpg (zero population growth) back thenpeople talking about it NOW?
kinda late to the party?
sheee at
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Mr_Brainwash
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Ok so mother nature is saying: "No more good weather for you!" Electricity usage shoots up cause nobody goes out in bad weather. What is the net effect? Less pollution or more?
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coolplanet
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I'll say this with my dying breath:
If we were to plant trillions of fast growing evergreen trees like the sequoia and tended them until they became established we could slow down or even reverse global warming. One young sequoia removes over 50 pounds of CO2 from the atmosphere every year, transpiring it as oxygen and rain clouds.
Why are we waiting for governments to take action?
In my half acre yard I have 60 huge trees (squoias, metasequoias, hemlocks, spruce, birch and maples) and 50 large bushes (Alberta spruce, ilex and yews). That alone reduces my carbon footprint by about one quarter.
Watching a blue sequoia sapling grow from one foot tall to twelve feet tall in four years is something to behold!
Also I plant lots of bamboo which converts CO2 into oxygen and silica. People object to bamboo because it is supposedly "invasive" and "non-native." That depends on the species -- there are over 3,000 (half from the Americas). Arundinaria gigantea once spanned millions of acres from the Ohio River valley down to Florida and Texas into Mexico. This native bamboo was all wiped out by farmers over the past 500 years.
If we are truly concerned about global warming we need to get off of our asses and plant enough trees and bamboos to erase our individual carbon footprints which is between 200 and 1000 sequoias per person according to my calculations. - 2 years ago
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coolplanet:
There are organizations planting trrees, millions of them... the problem is our voracious and selfish desire for palm oil and other products that are unnecessary as well as cutting down forests to grow biofuel and other non food crops unbalances the equation. We also have the added threat of drought which kills trees, the Amazon being a prime example and infestations due to warming weather such as what is happening in the US Northwest as well as stronger storms like Cyclone Yasi destroying all in its path. We can plant trees, the problem is keeping them in the ground. And even ideas presented to foster that don't go all the way in holding polluters accountable.
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JanforGore:
The problem is not biofuels. It is impossible raise atmospheric CO2 using biofuels. Every single atom of carbon in a biofuel first had to be removed from the atmosphere by a plant in order to produce the biofuel. If the carbon were not removed by a plant first---you'd have no plants to make the biofuel from. Therefore, you can not raise the atmospheric CO2 level using biofuels.
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Wetdog:
It's a problem when you need to feed people.
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JanforGore:
All of us are the polluters.
I belong to several tree planting organizations which makes me feel good. But the reality is that unless the saplings are watered several times a week in hot weather they will die. The statistics are that 9 out of 10 saplings planted will die if not tended regularly for the first few years.
My brother recently planted 500 pine saplings on his land and they were all dead the next year. - 2 years ago
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JanforGore:
Is spending nearly a trillion dollars a year and life and limbs of thousands of US service personnel on wars over oil feeding one single person?
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BKsaysAction
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Moving to Denver doesn't sound so bad now.
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BKsaysAction:
I've been holding on to nine acres riverfront the Rio Grande in Colorado since 1989 for this very reason. Paid $6000 and my taxes are $38 a year.
The region is called the Land of Cool Sunshine.
300 sunny days per year. Minimal rain but I'm on the river with a good watertable.
I feel lucky I paid attention to global warming way back then. - 2 years ago
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Well, I have a farm in south central Georgia, i believe I will have beach front
property at some point. Probably not me but my Heirs, My grand kids or their
kids.I try to do my part to not be "part of the problem,but part of the solution"
It's not much, I do what I can. Probably the best thing I do is teach my Grand kids about global warming and the importance of "being a part of the solution". - 2 years ago
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judithann:
Cheers and applause to you. Please do not think that teaching your Grand kids is "not much'. It's huge!! If all would do what you are doing another generation of children will be wiser.
Plastic bags no...paper or cloth yes..........lesson learned young..........*¿*
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UtopianSky
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At this point I doubt anything can be done- we just have to prepare to survive.
We need to start realizing that low areas, like Florida, will need to be evacuated, and newly revealed land in Canada, Russia, Scandinavia and Greenland will need to be built up to handle the displaced populations.
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UtopianSky:
I agree, the " tipping point " has come and gone many years ago.
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UtopianSky:
Sadly, I think you may be right.
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UtopianSky:
We must accept the fact that what you speak of is now a reality.
One would think that the most intelligent inhabitants of the plant would not be the cause of its demise.
What a world...........it was.................*¿*
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UtopianSky:
We can stop burning petroleum and coal.
We have the means to do anything we need done without the use of either petroleum or coal.
We'd also avoid a LOT of other environmental damage besides climate change if we stopped all petroleum and coal use as well.
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Debra_
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When I see this , I cry, and think of all the polar bears drowning. Their blood is on your hands.
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Debra_:
Polar bears are just the tip of the iceberg.
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coolplanet:
What tip of what iceberg? its already melted.
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We all need to stop associating ourselves as right or left. Isn't it clear? The delay in unity is due to America being divided into two groups. Take Glenn Beck for instance...That psychopath ( I do believe he is one), mixes lies with the truth, in order to turn progressives and tea partiers against each other. Why? Because if they started talking to each other, outside of the media, and political puppets...justice would be done (similar to Egypt).
Climate change is real , whether man made or part of a cycle (I believe the former). It needs to be addressed by everyone. Lets stop using the lingo/propaganda that divides us and have a real talk about this.
I know both people from the "right" and "left" post here.
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The_Inglorious_Bastard:
Thank you. Politicizing this crisis is immoral.
On edit:
What is now occurring does not know of poltiics, race, sex, creed, or religion. It will effect all of us in one way or another. I am one who has always believed that what happens to one part of the world has a ripple effect like throwing a stone across a river. We may have divisions and labels put upon us to facilitate our biases but bottomline is we are all humans and a part of the human condition and a biosphere where other species that cannot speak for themselves are also suffering the effects of this. Our planet is now in distress and like a child or someone we love who is sick and needs us, she now needs us too.
Some say we have reached a tipping point. Though I think we are close, we are not all the way there yet. There is still a small sliver of time to move, but of course that will take discussing this and solutions and adaptation plans not as left or right or from the perspective of putting only our needs first, but as a people who care about this Earth because we know that to lose her means we lose us.
I don't mean to preach, but as someone who has read reports, seen the graphs, listened to the scientists, this is no hoax. We have to stop using politics as an excuse to continue this stalemate. It is a great disservice to our future and especially the future of our children and grandchildren.
As the Arctic continues to melt, we may well see an ice free Arctic in summer within the next twenty years. For many of us that will be our lifetime and the lives of our children and or theirs. It will precipitate a warmer world as we continue to emit greenhouse gases thinking they have no effect as we amplify the hydrologic cycle, the ocean currents, acidification of our oceans, as well as the poisoning of our planet through pollution. We will see more positive feedback, more drought, more floods, and a possible reversal of the Atlantic current that could drastically effect our ability to live as it decimates agriculture and water availability.
This surpasses politics and oil company profits. This crisis is a test of who we are and it is now necessary to see an Egyptian Revolution globally for our sustainability. It is the most inconvenient truth we will have to face, but our fate is absolutely in our hands. The question we need to answer seriously now is, are we up to the task? We better be. The Arctic will not wait.
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JanforGore:
Very well said.
My biggest fear is that we may have passed the tipping point, however, I will not stop practicing my every effort to assist in working for a solution. I believe in science and I believe the science that tells us we have a chance.
If, and that's a huge if, we can create a global effort to stop the propaganda against the very idea that climate change is not fiction, but a reality that is threatening our very existence, we may, just may, have that chance.
I remain optimistic enough to not stop working towards that goal...............*¿*
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The_Inglorious_Bastard:
You make very good points.
Hope many will read...................*¿*
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The_Inglorious_Bastard:
Unfortunately, the politics will continue because money is involved. Take the Koch brothers [I live in their hometown, please take them]. Whether they truly believe in climate change or not will not matter. There are billions to be made continuing to burn hydrocarbon fuels and they will not give up what they worship the most -- the almighty dollar. And that is the problem. It will continue to be politicized by the money dealers.
that is our true religion ... "in money we trust."
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The_Inglorious_Bastard:
Very good post!
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When it starts to melt this spring all hell is going to break loose.
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gypsysailor:
The flooding starts this week in the US. Then refreeze.
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CaptDoug:
It feels like spring here in Pittsburgh this week.
It was almost 50 degrees F today at midnight. It is forecasted to reach 60 midweek.
This is when we used to get below zero weather.
And everyone complains how cold it has been even though it's been an unusually warm winter staying between 20 and 30 most of the time. Not yet down to zero except for wind chill.
Last winter's "Snowmageddon" here was likewise warmer than normal but nobody noticed.
Hawaiian Taro plants I left in the ground over winter grew back last spring. That should not happen here in zone 6 which used to go down to -10 below zero. Taro is a zone 9 plant.
One good thing. My giant sequoias and black bamboo love it! - 2 years ago
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Funky:
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when it becomes abundantly clear to the right
they will undoubtedly blame the elite left for not
doing something about it sooner...
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Funky:
It gets hot in summer and cold in winter.
You can't explain that. - 2 years ago
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Funky:
I learned on Fox that has something to do with the moon and the tides proving God exists.....
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Funky:
Actually the seasons have to do with the angle of sunlight rather than distance from the Sun.
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At many (not enough) dump and garbage landfills plastic is lined underground and covered to collect methane, which works well in our county.
Seems then you could cover the ground in white plastic of suspected high methane areas (could be thousands of square miles) to collect and sell it, as well as make money for the county by the lease of land. Or is this too simple to help ? - 2 years ago
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desmosabie:
I've also thought about covering the melting tundra with a breatheable reflective fabric and collecting some of the escaping methane.
Good idea! - 2 years ago
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Anything that will reduce the human blight upon the planet, I am for. Cause we are just not evolved or enlightened enough to regulate ourselves sensibly. God is great. We ain't.
Unfortunately, it looks like we are going to grab onto everything around as we drown. Personally, I am pretty confident of my survival skills short of a big meteor hitting earth or a solar flare of stuff of ELE proportions. I feel really bad for people walking around blissfully unaware of the enemy at the gate. Guess I will help as many as I can if it comes to that. At this point from what I understand of JanforGore's information and my understanding of human nature, we are doomed at our present levels. By the way, I pollute as little as I can, I do not reproduce, and I love animals and children and old people in general. Politics is part of the problem not part of the solution.
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This should stimulet the methan burp this summer
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ras_menelik:
Overdrive coming.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5DiHp76gjs&feature=related
The voice of an Alaskan native regarding the changes taking place.
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JanforGore:
Trouble is the natives have only an oral tradition that might not even go back to the last big freeze..... and ..... anecdotal information is what it is.
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telcod:
I trust the native oral tradition much more than the non-native written word. And I also trust science.
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JanforGore:
It's chilling listening to that.
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eternal_springs:
It is chilling and sad. Why can't we collectively see what our actions are doing to cultures and indigenous people who have lived for centuries with the knowledge we need to solve this? They are the very people whose wisdom we should be using to guide us out of this and we push them aside. It is a huge mistake.
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If history is any indication then despite all the evidence mankind on the whole will continue to disregard the consequences of climate change until a terrible tragedy occurs. Then and only then will people wake up and at the last minute we'll pull something out of our collective asses in an attempt to remedy the situation. I just hope it works...
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fun_size:
We passed the tipping point of no return under George W. Bush.
The CO2 released during his presidency has not even reached the upper stratosphere and will stay in the atmosphere for hundreds of years. - 2 years ago
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hindotka:
...are you high or just stupid?
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fun_size:
don't depend on people to do the right thing when the tragedy happens but if there are laws, most of us will do as we are told by an authority.
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fun_size:
He's ayipsis (latest guise).
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EthicalVegan:
Ahhh sounds about right.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmWOuo1qTrM
So much is affected by this exacerbated melting. Not just ocean currents or temperature or weather events, but the very livelihoods of the indigenous people who live in the Arctic. The flora, the fauna, the animals, the very rhythm of life and culture that people there have known for centuries. And yet , governments sit doing nothing, waiting for it to melt thinking they can then plunder its riches with another false choice. At what point will we get up in nations across the world to stand up for our climate future? When there's nothing to stand up for?
Can we get 1000 comments on a thread like this here?
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hindotka:
And how about you?
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The "Liberal" media all reported Sen. inhofe building an igloo last year but they turn a blind eye while Santas workshop sinks.
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BenjaminDover:
Well sure because the same oil companies that fill Inhofe's pocket pay for ad time on these stations.
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IceKat:
This is funny, because you have no point.
"And how much sunlight is there in the Arctic in January?"
Probably the same amount as last year. In fact, maybe last year the Arctic got even more sunlight. But did we set a record last year? No, because this doesn't have to do with the amount of sunlight per se. - 2 years ago
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IceKat:
It is, but the amount of sunlight is reoccurring, so your last question "And how much sunlight is there in the Arctic in January?" is irrelevant to the fact that there is a new record this year.
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IceKat:
Then what was the point of your comment?
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IceKat:
I said last year, not last January. Last year, the entire year, the arctic may have gotten more sunlight, but no record was set until now. That was my point. Why is it that this now, when there's no sunlight up there, we set a record? Of course we can't know if we'll break the record again this year until after the summer solstice.
And as for you asking "Then why tell me there may have been even more sunlight last year if this has nothing to do with sunlight?", you're the one who brought it up first. They just listed a factor, and you got all bent out of shape over it. Calm yourself. - 2 years ago
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IceKat:
I'm sorry, I honestly misunderstood sections of the article.
It turns out I was getting FOR January mixed up with IN January, like you said. My apologies. - 2 years ago
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We have a lot of work to do and a short time to do it in. There is no more time for diversion and propaganda. The problem is that we have ignorant antiscience oil drones in our Congress who think this is a political game. I am fed up with all of them.
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kennymotown
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I don't know if it can be reversed at all, we have wasted valuable time bickering with deniers! I just hope those same deniers can tread water!
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kennymotown:
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bad news kennymotown
the inertia of scale (earth)
makes reversal not possibleeven if we pulled the plug on every conceivable carbon dioxide producing
source right NOW, this MOMENT NOW
the life cycle/degradation of CO2 in the atmosphere is approximately 20 yearsi call it an industrial revolution meets over-population perfect storm
kind of an all round bummer really
but then
there's another point-of-view here
if you're into reincarnation
it means everyone's done
so
we all get to go play with lao tzu, krishna, budda, jesus and all the other
enlightened masters... woo hoo
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totally_dilapidated:
That's me in a nut shell, karmatic reincarnation nut! I find that our only hope may be the real Gods (Ancient Aliens).
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kennymotown:
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in my experience kennymotown
the light in us all that comes before all light in the end
the light of all in union
the beginning and the end eternal
the one light is
godand god gives love unending
if a person wants heaven
heaven is given
if a person wants heck
heck is given
if a person wants black
black is giventhe only condemnation in all of existence and eternity
is made and given
by the personi have found
in not wanting
truth is givensuprise suprise
what opens up your eyes!
it is nothing that can be conceived by the brain of man
only "seen" by the mind of beingand that's no cods wallop brother
mmm mmm
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totally_dilapidated:
We are one with the universe
a universal truth
and our linage comes from beyond the stars
and we will return to the place of our birth! - 2 years ago
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kennymotown:
Yesp, you have spent to much time on the internet and watching Olbermann, Stewart, and Maher. Just think of how much CO2 the libs have released into the atmosphere.
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TheAmericanPatriot:
Hopefully for your sake that bubble you live in floats!
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TheAmericanPatriot:
There's a weird phenomenon in america today. The people who yell the loudest and wave the flag the hardest are also the ones who have a bag of wet hammers for brains and are the most intolerant of others who do not think and act like them
Just freakin weird i tell ya. It wasn't like that when i grew up in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado and North Dakota. Maybe the creepy noisy flag wavin haters are in other states i didn't
grow up in? - 2 years ago
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