Tech | March 20, 2011 | 34 comments

Internal Combustion Engine Could Soon Go Bye-bye

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Engineers at Michigan State University led by Norbert Mueller have unveiled a "Wave Disk Generator" that could eventually replace the internal combustion engine. The new design boasts an up to 90% reduction in auto emissions in addition to being 400% more fuel efficient.

A typical car engine only uses 15% of the gas it consumes to move. In contrast, the new engine will use 60%. The new model contains no pistons, valves, crankshafts or transmission system...making the generator far cheaper to maintain over years. The invention also benefits from potentially being able to use gas alternatives such as hydrogen.

Naturally, this engine technology could revolutionize pretty much the entire world and its logistical systems. Everything would become much cheaper in transportation, requiring drastically less fuel and maintenance. Professor Mueller hopes that his engine model might reach the streets in 3 years.
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  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • I smell a three-year-tall PINATA filled with engine parts & promised carrots. It goes nicely with the MIT solar magnifier and the Italian cold fusion next month and the Tesla Roadster NO ONE CAN AFFORD cause they lost their home and their Credit Score along with it. Pity the fool [in the mirrah].

      => Damn this false Christmas Tree in Springtime!
      => Damn this false Christmas Tree in Springtime!
      => Damn this false Christmas Tree in Springtime!

      Think I'll order the movie Carousel from Netflix and spend my time with real people doing real singing => Shirley Jones and Gordon MacRae. When they acted and sang THEY DELIVERED CONTENT. Praise God they did that otherwise we'd be an empty hole in the ground filled with rat-diseased cloned rat droppings.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Gravity_Man:

      There's a very good reason we'll NEVER get the Mueller engine, a "rule of thumb" => God Provides Satan Deprives.If Mr. Mueller's engine is worth its salt Satan will target it and shoot it down real quick.

      Just like the old rascal does everything Good. Simple. It's another prime example of elimination. It also works the other way too. We don't need more radiation so we get gobs of radiation. It's a rule that never fails Americans.

      Remember Pearl Harbor!

    • 1 year ago
  • mikem0487
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      mikem0487  
    • Hopefully this can be the bridge gap between inefficient internal combustion engines and EV vehicles! We really need efficiency to start coming into the main stream from every aspect of human life from water usage to insulation of residential and commercial building!

    • 1 year ago
  • Slingingstones
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      Slingingstones  
    • Neat. I hope to still be alive when this comes to fruition; but, in the meantime, I fully expect to see Big Oil fight this "change" to their status quo.

    • 1 year ago
  • dreamsenvoy
  • drewsuf721
    • +1
      drewsuf721  
    • Video is from 2009, so that means it may be on the roads by 2012? Not sure if it's been incorporated into the Volt or another EV, but I wish him luck. Efficiency is always a worthy research goal.

    • 1 year ago
  • altair83
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      altair83  
    • Yes, fuel efficient engines might be a big hit to the economy but we have to start changing the technology or soon we won't have any planet left and we will have to literally eat our money.

    • 1 year ago
  • Wetdog
  • simplecj
    • +3
      simplecj  
    • So this is intended to run the electric generator for an electric car like the Chevy Volt... that makes more sense. I was wondering how you would get any usable torque out of that thing at low RPMs...

      Still though... I want to see it running! Won't believe it till I SEE it... looks promising though!

    • 1 year ago
  • kgMA
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      kgMA  
    • Many products like this end up being purchased by the oil industry and dumped in a trash barrel some where never to be found. This is a great idea but the reason it will never make it to market is because there are still billions of barrels of oil to sell at $100+ each! Also, if this came to market, the need to bomb around the globe would be less and the MIC would suffer! Can't have that now, can we? Too many politicians would also miss out on their MIC paybacks!

    • 1 year ago
  • simplecj
    • +2
      simplecj  
    • kgMA:

      We're broke and peak oil is said to already be upon us. There will still be plenty of uses for oil that this will not replace. Why does everyone seem to think that gasoline is the only thing that drives demand for oil? We make TONZ of stuff out of oil, gas is only part of that and demand for gas isn't going to diminish overnight, even if this revolutionary product was already hitting the production line. It will take decades to replace all the currently used gasoline guzzling vehicles on the road.

    • 1 year ago
  • Wetdog
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      Wetdog  
    • simplecj:

      Black liquor is a by product of pulp making using wood. Black liquor is the biological equivalent of petroleum crude oil. Anything made with crude oil can be made from black liquor using the same processes.

      At the outset of WW2, the US needed to produce a LOT of war materials in a hurry. But we faced a critical shortage of rubber due to German and Japanese Uboat activity.

      The answer was butadeine---artificial rubber. Made from ethanol produced from wood logging and milling waste in a factory in Wisconsin using the Scholler process.

      Take a look at some pictures of WW2, all the rubber parts on all those ships, airplanes, tanks, trucks, jeeps, even the soles of the boots the troops are wearing was made from ethanol-----ethanol produced in Wisconsin out of wood.

    • 1 year ago
  • August_K
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      August_K  
    • kgMA:

      Don't know why your comment was voted down?

      You are absolutely right though. Many a good invention was purchased and basically removed from the market and all traces of it would just vanish.

      If anything challenges the military industrial complex and their pursuit over the domination of world resources they would see it as a big threat.
      If we didn't need to fight to dominate via military action or via puppet rulers in those countries with big oil reserves there would be no need for a massive military budget and all those "defense" contractors who get rich on wars and all those central banks who fund both sides of each conflict.....well..... they wouldn't make money and that's a threat to a lot of powerful groups.

      Reminds me of when Kennedy ordered the Treasury to issue over 4 Billion in Silver Certificates ....bypassing the FED and their control over our monetary system.
      It was Debt Free money backed by silver....not borrowed money from the private central bank....aka the FED. Kennedy had a lot of enemies but a lot of scholars think this was one of the major things he tried (not letting the FED control our money) that led to his assassination.

      Most folks simply don't understand that the worlds "central banks" ...including our own FED are private institutions. They are not owned by our governments. They loan our governments money and keep us all in debt. Governments CAN take back control of their monetary systems but that would be one hell of a battle and there would have to be a major uprising by a lot of world governments for it to be truly effective.

      These "central banks" are dangerous and have become way too powerful and they use our very own military to control governments that refuse to buy into the whole "let us, the central banks of the world" run your monetary system game.
      They demonize those countries and tell us that they are evil, radical and threatening.

    • 1 year ago
  • August_K
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      August_K  
    • simplecj:

      We're already decades behind....the time to innovate and reduce our dependency on oil should be more important than almost anything now. The problem is that there are too many rich players who are interested in short term profits and power ...nothing else.

    • 1 year ago
  • Wetdog
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      Wetdog  
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    • August_K:

      We have the means to get rid of petroleum right now----and we always have had the means right at our fingertips for well over 100 years.

      The very first Model T Ford that Henry Ford introduced in 1908 could be ordered with an adjustable Holly carburetor that could be switched from gasoline to ethanol.

      Biofuels can do anything that petroleum can do, better and cleaner.

      With one exception.

      Biofuels can not be monopolized. Biofuels can be made from any organic source. There are just too many ways to make biofuels from virtually any feedstock available to be able to monopolize a biofuel energy market.

      THAT is why petroleum companies fight so hard to keep biofuels out of the market and unavailable to consumers. They would lose their de facto monopoly status if consumers had a choice of what fuel they use in their vehicles.

      It would not be hard to do. In fact, it is already being done in Brazil and Argentina. The Fiat Siena Tetrafuel runs on gasoline, gasoline and ethanol mixtures, pure hydrous ethanol and/or compressed natural gas. All in the same vehicle.

      http://www.goodcleantech.com/2007/08/new_fiat_siena_ttrafuel_runs_o.php

    • 1 year ago
  • Jared_Hildebrandt
  • mapczar
    • -5
      mapczar  
    • This could also 'backfire' with unintended consequences [pun intended].

      Our current economic system -- global corporate capitalism is empowered by one thing - cheap transportation. In the name of maximum profits the environment is raped, people's labor is cheapened, jobs are lost, resources squandered, social structure destroyed, democracy marginalize, small enterprise is crushed, diseases are spread, war are created and fought -- because we have cheap transportation. Without cheap transportation, all global corporate capitalism comes to a halt.

      While more efficient and less polluting transportation may have some merit, cheap transportation may not be an overall good thing.

      We should proceed with caution.

    • 1 year ago
  • Houshalter
  • August_K
    • 0
      August_K  
    • Houshalter:

      We were told many of them were hoaxes because it would upset the agenda of a lot of powerful groups.

      If we can land on the moon, send space ships with cameras towards other solar systems surely we have the intelligence to create good alternative inventions that don't require our current massive consumption of oil.

      We only have 300 million people in the USA but we consume 25% of the worlds resources and there are nearly 8 BILLION people on the planet.
      We can't continue on that path for much longer.

    • 1 year ago
  • Houshalter
    • 0
      Houshalter  
    • August_K:

      "We were told many of them were hoaxes because it would upset the agenda of a lot of powerful groups."

      There were hundreds of perpetual energy hoaxes and frauds in the late 19th and 20th centuries. I seriously doubt all of those were covered up by a massive conspiracy, but am I supposed to assume they were because I can't prove otherwise and they would have "upset the agendas of a lot of powerful groups"?

      The US is so prosperous because we used to have capitalism and for a long time.

    • 1 year ago
  • Nephwrack
  • JanforGore
    • +3
      JanforGore  
    • If it ever reaches the streets it will have Ford or Toyota on it, not Mueller. Innovation in this country is not allowed. It is stolen by the big boys. Anyone see the movies Flash Of Genius? Tucker? We spout a good game in this country about innovation, but once the big boys get a whiff of it they do anything in their power to steal it for their own. Were that it were possible this would hit the streets. It would be phenomenal.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • JanforGore:

      I'm glad to see YOU aren't easily fallen for this hyped-up hogwash. Thank goodness there's one sane person left on this planet.

      Long Live Detroit ['s crummy engines]. Long Live Detroit ['s crummy engines]. Long Live Detroit ['s crummy engines]. Long Live Detroit ['s crummy engines]. Long Live Detroit ['s crummy engines].

      Watch out for this false prophet Mueller => he's from GERMANY right? haha Mueller, Mueller?! I head that name in a movie once to => Ferris Mueller. The movie ended up the Dad's sports car smashed in a ravine, RIGHT WHERE YOU'RE HEADED.

      Whew, this March 20 Moon Madness is killing me here. Where's the Decency? Couldn't this have waited til April 1? Listen up people reading this thread it's like this. This engine might work but take a driving lesson down REALITY ROAD and think about the Tesla Roadster and how much hype it got, right?

      OK, so how much does one COST? You can't afford it! So when this hits the streets in 3 years you won't be able to afford it EITHER WAKE UP you're dreaming again, falling hook line and sinker for the Tesla all over again you fools. This is the work of a consortium of false propheteers.

    • 1 year ago
  • artemis6
  • Frosty46
  • Wetdog
    • +4
      Wetdog  
    • Long on hype but pretty short on details. From what I gather, it appears to be a turbine that he plans to use to charge a hybrid electric system.

      I could be wrong---the sound on the video was so bad that I could not make out some of the things he was saying.

      I guess we'll find out if he puts it together and it works.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Wetdog:

      Yeah, maybe so, and the reason we don't have TURBINES a long time ago is they generated too much NOISE. Don't forget Wetdog, the earlier thread about the Italian scientists supposed to reveal cold fusion in another week or so.

      That's another bunch of LIARS we'll never hear from again. They're hyping us down a sewer drain in 2011. Why isn't the Pope coming out against these people for building up people's Hope and then dashing them against the metal dashboard of a 1948 Chevrolet?

      Technology that doesn't tell the truth is a SIN to Heaven.

    • 1 year ago
  • Wetdog
    • 0
      Wetdog  
    • Gravity_Man:

      GM----don't get your panties in a bunch. I never said that it wouldn't work. From what I can tell, it appears to work on the same function principals as the pulse jet turbine, an already proven design and I know it works. How do I know that? Easy, it is the same design used by the Germans in WW2 on the V1 rocket. Simple, robust, powerful, rugged, easy and cheap to build and use(remember, it was meant to be disposable.) Small, few moving parts and it has a high power to weight ratio----perfect for a car engine.

      Let's just wait and see how it translates into an automobile engine for a hybrid vehicle. It could be, that by the time you add the electrical drive components of the automobile, you'd lose all the advantages of the pulse jet engine---------or--------it could turn out to be a better choice than what we are using now. We have no way of knowing until he puts it all together and we see some numbers on performance and efficiency.

      Wait and see.

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Wetdog:

      Today's Tripe Report brought to your desktops by the GERMAN MUELLER, wait PROFESSOR MUELLER, still a GERMAN, come to save America with a fancy schmancy GERMAN ENGINE. Can't be an American engine, has to be an old World War II they-should've-won-WW2 engine from the V-2 rocket that should've pulse-whipped our pants off and left permanent scars all down our back sides.

      Oh the humanity!!!!! Is there no Justice in the world??? Why, oh why, are GERMANS being allowed to work near any engines in the first place? It's a trap, a trap I tell you! Germans bite just like their dogs and this traitorous lie will come back to get us.

      It's a well-deceived trap to keep us tethered to oil wells! Beware the Ides of March => Brutus this way comes dressed in a German scientist's white lab coat!

      An immediate investigation of Mueller's dark past and connections with the Bring back Adolph Hitler Secret Fan Club needs to be parked on his front lawn til he gives up and confesses his transparent evil agenda.

      March 19 Moon Madness March 20

      Hey Wetdog, he's borrowing from my engine U know. Dollars to donuts he's using a weighted flywheel. Very sad too => mine uses two. Oh well, baby steps and plodding speed, I know, I know, we're working real hard. Whew.

    • 1 year ago
  • Milieu
    • 0
      Milieu  
    • "Professor Mueller hopes that his engine model might reach the streets in 3 years."

      Well, obviously this ain't gonna be no muscle car is it takes three years just to get to the street.

      Whatta ya figure, 1/100th, 1/1000th horsepower?

    • 1 year ago
  • Wetdog
  • mapczar
  • Gravity_Man
    • -2
      Gravity_Man  
    • Milieu:

      If it's a lightweight turbine light enough to not make much noise it might have to sit for 5 minutes building up steam before ya can move the ignorant tin can car out the driveway!

      Pity the Fool. Another false profit. I can't stand it anymore. I thought these people in SCHOOLS calling theirself a PROFESSOR were supposed to be SMART.

      Anyway, the US will pass a Law against it and they'll sell it to the Australians through Tata Motors in INDIA, under a false name! Even falser than Mueller!

    • 1 year ago
  • Gravity_Man
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