Super-Civilizations Might Live Off Black Holes : Discovery News

And they could occupy our same space but in other dimensions, like ghosts.

DUUUUDE

You're baaaack!!! I was beginning to worry about you as you hadn't posted anything for days! :)

There's more to life than the Republicans, their "economy" and how to get rid of them. Who said anything about communicating with the "Old Ones", and perhaps if we could communicate with them they might help us and/or advise us on how to solve the Republican and a myriad other problems plaguing humanity.

Brings to mind a Mormon belief that Jesus came from a planet travelling exactly in Earth's orbit, but halfway across so it was perpetually hidden behind the Sun. Under what "classification" would such a hypothetical civilization fit in? Of course, since we can see out there now, and probably actually looked (you never know), and know there's nothing there, an additional "cloaking" ability, or some other form of invisibility, must be a characteristic of that "civilization."

I am a self-denounced Mormon but I don't know that I have ever heard of that belief. However, it is about as whacked as some of the other things they cling to.

lol you cant be serious right that is funny

if you are any proof??? did not think so

I think he was being facetious.

Yes, I know, Irony and Sarcasm don't come across well on the Internet tubes

That is.... if we dont destroy ourselves in the process. Our "economics" or energy consuming rate is ridiculous and this world will run out of it really soon.

And then what?
Have you noticed all the things that surround you are made out of oil?

Lets stop this ridiculous ideas that "by year 3000 thousand we will be all over the galaxy" when really, humanity has a really dim future by 2020.

As the tendency goes... it is more likely we are going to the dark ages, rather than flying up the stars.

No, the universe is not fairly young, our solar system is however. The universe is about 14.7 billiion years old, while our solar system, which is probably a second or third generation occurrance, is only about 4.6 billion years old. There is definitely a possibility of "more advanced life" further out on the frindge.

A dyson sphere could only be made if we use the resources of like 40 planets. So I guess thats just retarded.

Yeah, for logic's sake, the fact that ALL of them (assuming "they" exist) have avoided contact with us, may be proof of their advanced intellgence ;-)

There appears to be a lack of desire to be our buddies too!

Looking at human-kind's record.....would you, if you weren't a "resisdent"?

Before a new idea can be proven as a fact it has to be speculated, if you just stick to the known facts there is no progress.

or lack there of for the sake of argument just because a bunch of people believe it does not make it so remember when the world was flat lol

ok that is a good point but there is no way to test this speculation is there my point is there is no reason to believe the person who wrote this post to begin with and im not making the claim there does not have to be any life out there in space right now we are the only intellegent life there is that we know of

I have a feeling he might have been one with Asperger's, which is almost like "being from another planet", in the way many of them are "treated" here.

Does Asperger's raise a person back to life after he dies?

o_0 not that I am aware of....how does that come into play when speaking of those in the past?

I just wanted to rule out my being similarly denigrated as having some disease such as Asperger's. Obviously you haven't read my long post below. But if it's something you absolutely MUST DO then throw in being bipolar, PTSD, and Meniere's, and Lyme's, and head concussions and a drowning and measles and chickenpox as causes of great inventing. I did have all those, then you'd at least have the argument you desire. We certainly don't want anyone to be {ungh} special. hahaha

Moya-Moya too!

Thank goodness! And you win the daily prize for CLEARING MY GOOD NAME!

I hope you mean that in a comical way.

Honestly, I was going to answer that you can "believe" whatever you like ;-)
You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. :-)

Which statement? It is hard to link which one you mean in this type of forum sometimes.....If you mean the one about them "not contacting us" because we are such a impossible (and potentially dangerous) species; yeah, semi-serious, semi-tongue-in-cheek.

If you mean my last post to GM, I don't consider it a disease no....it maybe a partial step towards our eventual evolution out of the vast majority of NT's into an actual race of thinkers. :-)

If indeed, Einstein, Tesla, Mozart, Edison, etc. were AS, we may be headed in a different direction then the "one two three, kick" working to live, class that has dominated the world of thinkers recently. :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-F8GeRoxuk

Of course, there is that little problem of "the conservation of energy " i.e. you'd use so much energy to accomplish your task, you wouldn't have anything left over. Far easier it would be to use the oceans, currents and waves to generate energy....it is already available and in motion; we just have to tap more of it.

You are correct many times over. Lightning Energy was harnessed (in design) in 1989 and submitted to the US Dept. of Energy, and rejected. I used an Epson dot matrix printer and they didn't read it. They were used to college-level submissions.

What I later came to find out is they did the same then as is common => they let the submissions set for a requisite SIX WEEKS then like clockwork a rejection form is sent out [some and many times so they can work on it without interference from the stupid American inventor trying to provide for {yuck} his family].

I have traveled a long road and this has been our bread to eat. My sons got sick from not getting fed well enough while young, and one fell to leukemia they said it was the vilest form, in 2006 at 26 years of age. They do more than murder your future they actually do commit real murder.

And that's who gets your tax monies every year, also like clockwork.

What has worked against them is that they chose to deny the obvious => that God was blessing me to reveal more than just one lone engine system. So when they kept the lightning system from the World (and you, and yours) so long ago, they thought I was a flash-in-the-pan their fish to fry like they fried so many before me. WRONG! They also thought they would kill me not just my son. WRONG! When they did succeed in killing me a shot of Power came into my dead body and I was raised back up to do MORE BATTLE WITH THE BEAST.

So in 2000 I had a new type of windmill and they stole it for another inventor to use in 3 inventions he had that needed it. They thought smashing my Ego in such a way would dishearten any man, but AGAIN THEY WERE WRONG.

I MASHED THE GAS AND KEPT ON GETTING BACK UP.
BY NOW THEY SURELY KNOW I HAVE DIVINE BACKING.

In 2005 18 months after my Air+Steam car engine that their D.O.E. once again refused you I had a superior device that is a "dry waterwheel". It replaces gravity energy flowing round water molecules with metal balls, much like the old PINBALL MACHINES it uses two opposed solenoids to fire them AWAY FROM EACH OTHER AT A COMBINED SPEED IN EXCESS OF THE SPEED OF LIGHT.

hehehe It is self-powered by firing the balls into curved arms that re-directs them back towards itself, and a system reset. The Lever-Arms magnify their Force to a generator that provides the next solenoid fire... so when the still-in-kinetic-motion balls strafe the base-mounted generator #2 the electricity it outputs is PURE GRAVY to run every device on Planet Earth. I called this one the "Millenial Dawn" and it BEATS THE LAW OF ENTROPY (System Degradation) by the balls being fully exhausted of all motion AT WHICH TIME THEY "TAKE ON" A NEW LOAD OF POTENTIAL ENERGY EVERY CYCLE.

hahahaha George Walker Bush the esteemed President of the United States of America had the audacity in a nationwide news conference to refer to engines like mine as => MAGIC WAND ENERGY. He told the nation to forget such high falutin' ideas because they didn't exist. Bush was one lying S.O.B. too but his attack against me didn't cost me a beat.

I've designed a number of Gravity Wheels that can turn electric generators and power your Home right now by Gravity, and other inventors also have made them. But the reason you aren't getting THEIRS is because their Bankers are holding them back from release waiting for the per kilowatt cost of electricity to increase.

American citizens are being played like a drum.

But my opponent is mighty so even though I showed a way to harness the Gravity of the ENTIRE PLANET LAST NOVEMBER 2010 => OCEAN ENERGY VIDEO HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apQTwE9daXs your opponent government still hangs onto the belated hope I will Cease Afflicting them blows delivered by God through me.

Yet once again two days ago I was blessed to suddenly understand how the "Wheel-Within-a-Wheel" could be an engine design for BOTH CARS AND STATIONARY POWER PLANTS. I could easily reveal it to you right now but then they would have it and YOU NEVER WOULD, so I have to keep it to myself this time.

But the point of all this long, 22-year battle was to prove they exist which I have by the Raise-from-the-Dead Grace of God Almighty. The shadow government stands naked in the interstate, kept alive by dutiful people paying their taxes to feed the Beast they decry. And he (the Beast) laughs at me for taking the [wasted] time to tell you, for they have [correctly] calculated they have poisoned you sufficiently through the ground water and drinking water with 65,000 chemicals, many of which DESTROYS A MAN'S TESTOSTERONE, SO THEY HAVE DELIVERED A CHEMICAL CASTRATION TO AMERICAN MALES.

You have been wimped down like they do to violent prison inmates.

The only one having the power to crush this serpent is Christ Jesus. The Anti-Christ's tricks that stop me will not stop Jesus. Their doom draws near. But what you all need to do is start praying more and voting less. Find a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses fast. John 17 v 3. The time for war is approaching. My engines were also given to prove Paradise always existed and therefore is soon to be re-instated. I hope you all buckle down and make it, every one of ya.

Dude, you are The Rooster!

hahahaha Another fan added to the Fan List!!! I knew it would happen, one day I would be exonerated and appreciated.

However, do not let this fact escape your notice, that the preventing of my having all success has been done to crush me MENTALLY. This has been far more than keeping a person down. Most men would have swallowed a shotgun shell long before now.

I'm not most men. When they decide to step out of the shadows ~and quit using their minion doctors to passively exterminate me by withholding needed medical treatments and medicines~ well, that's when all hell on earth breaks loose. They know about Zechariah 2 v 8.

So far they have chosen the correct goblet. Anyway, they stay too busy with their multi-level Chess game controlling you all's futures, which inventions to allow and which not to allow. I imagine their sweat stays on them 24/7 doing that.

Very interesting do you need funding!? or ? what ..? don't do it for the govt. do it for the people like Dr Faulk and the polio vaccine . I've worked with inventors, engineers,chemist's and artists(designers) to create many things this sounds very promising and I would be willing to set up a meeting with REAL investors provided you still have the MOTTS!

minus the creepy god shit keep that too yourself.. K.

hahaha I do not require working partners to be baptized into my religion. That's a personal matter.

What I have does not require a big "meeting". It requires some money landing in my Checking account #162895. The person who does that sufficiently equal to my offer of new knowledge is the one who takes home the deer AND the bacon.

Be it made clear what I have can be implemented in a vastly much shorter time than new nuclear power plants ever could, from already-on-the-shelf parts mostly. It is a new technology made up of combining several older technologies so the stuff needs to be put together more than designing incredibly-complicated new stuff that takes DECADES.

Wheel in a Wheel, Engine in an Engine. But the feeling it gives a person ON THE INSIDE KNOWING HOW IT'S MADE IS TO DIE FOR. I would like to share that feeling, but with the people who will build it not hoard it away.

You have to remember how young our technology is, maybe they realize that we can't comprehend what they have to say yet.

I think most-likely an advanced civilization has become non-violent and research based we would be an oddity at best to be monitored and studied at most...

I think you are underestimating the size of our universe. There may well be transmissions(not radio...why would an advanced civilization use radio signals?) that we do not have the technology to intercept or it could just be that they are so ridiculously far away that their signals just haven't reached us yet. Look in the sky at night at the stars. Those are not real time images of stars your are seeing. Some may not even exists anymore. That is million(sometimes billion) year old light you are seeing. It takes an incomprehensible amount of time for anything to travel between galaxies.

Enough for a proper sample.

I have often wondered why we were the only life in this large universe.

Well ah'm not DOC HOLLYWOOD Pilgrim!

Hmm. Altho a few actually think I AM a Pilgrim (from Wing Commander and can jump Black Holes without a NavCom sshhh).

Thanks! I had to drop back on the capsules filed with Neosporin ointment. Five 00-size was a bit much (per week). Although I do miss the Bigger Biceps.

How can you sample something that hasn't arrived yet?

You nailed it Omle, when you said we might not have the technology to receive the contact from more advanced civs. Like trying to skype with an insect on your smartphone, it just doesn't have the capacity or the technology to get that call.

and perhaps are over-estimating our linguistic and de-coding skills or even our technologies limited range as compared to the limitless edgeless universe

At the speed we observe our own civilization advancing on the scientific-O-meter (exponential curve) we can safely assume IF THERE WAS SUCH A CIVILIZATION OUT THERE they would've advanced far beyond the speed of their own transmission evidence. They would be here scoping out the competition as a sheer matter of self-preservation.

They do not exist because if they did, and they were here, the sane choice would be to exterminate us. The vast majority of us live on the level of a cockroach and nothing more. We hump our women like bugs in a brier patch then brag about it to our fellow cockroaches. And we allow scum to run the house.

Scum that has poisoned us so that we would become so incredibly Weak & Sick we would be pathetically grabbing for every Soylent Green food chip they invent.

Such as how last November 2010 scientists at McMaster's University invented a process to turn human skin into blood cells. On the surface Hey!, that sounds GREAT, but why did they have do it IN THE FIRST PLACE if not because they had destroyed us down to a level where we needed them to do it?

Our fellow cockroaches have turned this world into their own private petri dish of fellow cockroaches, and they love listening to us cry out in AGONY. Tell ya what, go find one of those really large Bibles. I guess they're still around. The ones with all the artwork showing humans jammed together writhing in agony in hellfire.

Now tell me that isn't our condition right now. That condition has already been brought to pass. Another condition they caused was abortions of healthy babies, possibly 100,000,000 worldwide for the 20th century tally. The story they gave for Justification was so that by limiting the US population we would all have a HIGHER STANDARD OF LIVING; so where is it?

People butchered and essentially "ate their young" in order to have a more perfect union. They ate their young by sacrificing their little lives for a future the scum of Satan knew would never happen, never could they allow to happen, because if they ever delivered all the inventions they are presently HOARDING FROM YOU not only my own THEY KNOW THE BIBLE SCRIPTURE AT 1 THESSALONIANS 5 V 3 WOULD COME TO PASS ALSO, AND THEY CAN'T ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

So you can all cry and scream in agony some more now that you KNOW THIS TRUTH TO BE TRUE => your masters believe the Bible and live by its every WORD, to the Letter even including the spaces between the Bible's letters & words. Your lives are ruled by Bible Thumpers who work for Satan.

Cockroaches get better.

It seems everything you say is based on assumption or your own opinion. Why, if there is other life, must they be aware of our existence? Again, you are severely underestimating the size of our universe. The rarity of planets that may harbor life coupled with the distance between them makes for a very unlikely chance of any advanced civilizations ever being aware of each other at all. I think you should read a bit more about astrophysics.

The world's astronomers located a star called Gliese581 that has TWO planets in the Goldilocks zone, 20 million Light Years from Earth, announced last September 30 2010.

They seem entitled to be brimming with optimistic opinions. You have your opinions I have mine. Go find someone else to flog, Puritan.

I'm satisfied we're here first, no matter what the size of the universe. Unlike most people I don't slobber all over myself drooling at every word dripping from Carl Sagan's sing~songy Mr. Rogers mouf.

If you continue to protest you'll identify yoself as a member of a cult unable to tolerate anyone's beliefs other than your own.

Which is what you are btw. Just another opinion. I don't rest my beliefs on Odds of this or Odds of that. I have evidence in the complexity I have found in 66 Bible books, a complexity of real Beauty, not imagined nor drummed into me by being mesmerized into a Carl Sagan cult hanging on the MAN'S EVERY EXHALATION (OPINIONS).

Gliese 581c has only one planet in the habitable zone and its star is only a red dwarf. How does finding one planet only slightly similar to Earth prove that no other life exists in the entire universe? Who the hell is Carl Sagan?

So if I have a different belief than you than I am intolerable to other people's beliefs? Do you see the irony in that? You're not even making sense anymore.

Nikola Tesla was a genuis. He also invented the first auto engine. If we had listened to him instead of Ford and Rockefeller, we may be driving electric cars and not dependent on oil.

Tesla knew how to make a craft powered by a lightning drive. I figured out how he made it work in the Fall of 2007.

3 and a half YEARS AGO. To say we are going at PLODDING SPEED is an overstatement.

Way to demonize people or try to make viruses and bacteria seem bad even they are a natural part of this earth as are we. Next time don't be so cynical...

lol

The thin person who keeps his weight down begins consuming incoming viruses & bacteria as a Food Source. High quality actually, microscopic sushi.

But according to Michio Kaku we are a Type 0. Perhaps when we start farming viruses and bacteria out of the air we can stretch our legs a bit. But for now, not yet, not yet.

How is that cynical? This is how our society exists on this planet. We are parasitic. We live on our host, the Earth, consume its' resources and offer it no benefit in return.

Parasite:
an animal or plant that lives in or on a host (another animal or plant); it obtains nourishment from the host without benefiting or killing the host

leech: a follower who hangs around a host (without benefit to the host) in hope of gain or advantage

wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Well i like being a type 0... lol. Really I agree with you, from a distance we do tend to act like an infection, but our ability to act subjectively, create art and beauty, love, etc. is pretty fantastic. Taking the far off approach "objective" approach which I see as Kaku's subjective lens (btw Kaku is brilliant), is thinking about a problem that is really conceptual in nature and far off from the real interpersonal and intercultural issues that actually affect real people everyday....just saying (btw I love playing devil's advocate)