Tech | July 29, 2011 | 129 comments

Internet Privacy Alert

Progresshiv
Recently, the Republicans in the House Judiciary Committee passed an act which would force Internet service providers to track user names, addresses, phone numbers, credit card numbers, bank account numbers and web sites users have visited in the last year. If this act becomes law, I and many others will no longer use the Internet, because we will have lost the right to expect that our privacy will be guarded and respected. This means that Amazon and other online merchants will lose significant business. I urge Amazon to use its influence to stop this measure before it becomes law. Thank you.
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  • jubal
    • +1
      jubal  
    • I am about ready to stop...its become so hum drum...however...this whole thing could be a move to push people into the shadows and keep them from speaking out against the draconian government we are living under.

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • Richard_Wyatt
    • +1
      Richard_Wyatt  
    • Where is the tea party, patriot, militia, and religious rights objections over this, if a democrat did this they is be rightfully upset but look its a republican idea so it be okay. I said it once I said it a thousand times these people are hypocrites..

    • 10 months ago
  • Pheena187
    • +1
      Pheena187  
    • They probably have the access to that information already and already look at it. I was visiting my mom's house and comcast called and said there was a spike in the internet usage from my IP and what sites I was on.

    • 10 months ago
  • GENERALNATTY
    • 0
      GENERALNATTY  
    • lol you thought me and glenn beck were crazy when we told you watch that google, that they were collecting all kinds of information they dont need and that its okay because they tell you, you can "opt out" lol, ignored me when i told you the german government was so concerned about google chrome they came up with there own version to avoid all the data being saved by google.

      so i told you, then glenn beck told you , then julian assange now progressive hiv, if there was this kinda unity in washington the debt limit would've been raised weeks ago.

      I'm calling you people who oppose the corporatocracy but give an exemption to google because al gore is on the board.

      you are hypocrites, we tell you to watch out for situations where people can save your information like that and you say i got nothing to hide go put on your tinfoil hat.

      Well the chickens have come home to roost have they not?

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • teacherdave
    • +5
      teacherdave  
    • You too can have free speech. For only $19.99 plus shipping and handling you can have private discussions with anyone that also participates. But if you act now we will withhold not only your name but your your address as well, Exposing to the world only your birth date, social security number, and your
      neighbors address. Operators are standing by. Call now 1-800-New corp. As for James Murdock

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • jackshin
  • VoyagerFilms
    • 0
      VoyagerFilms  
    • This is really much ado about nothing right now. However, in the hands of corrupt politicians reaching high office such as the Bush administration or any version thereof. The collection of such information does however, aid law enforcement in combating those who unscrupulously pray on Americans

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • Suzeiki
  • Pfailblog
    • +4
      Pfailblog  
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    • This is the problem with two party politics. It's not just the republicans doing this, but that's all the other team (democrats) will notice. We need to get rid of both parties or nothing will ever change.

      ***

      Smith says that the law is similar to what telephone companies are currently required to do by keeping phone records of their customers. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), however, says it’s just an attempt to pry even deeper into the public lives of citizens.

      “This is not about child porn. It never has been and never will be,” Issa said. “This is a convenient way for law enforcement to get what they couldn’t get in the PATRIOT Act.” Issa further added that he is “offended” that lawmakers would use the issue of child pornography to gain leverage in passing the law.

      ***

      In addition to receiving backing from Rep. Smith, H.R. 1981 is also receiving praise from Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, the National Center for Victims of Crime, the National Sheriff’s Association, the Major County Sheriff’s Association, the International Union of Police Associations and the Fraternal Order of Police.

      http://www.politicalfailblog.com/2011/07/congress-wants-to-know-what-you-do-on.h...

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • Georgia_Jim
  • GRC54
    • +2
      GRC54  
    • THere is a web site that allows you to surf anonomysly.
      The web site, for those who want it is, www.torproject.org.
      I use it all the time and it is a great program that is for the price of, (its free), Amazing. You have to beat them at their own game.

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
    • +3
      Progresshiv  
    • GRC54:

      Excellent- thanks. Here is the list of warnings that Tor has on its website:

      "Tor only protects Internet applications that are configured to send their traffic through Tor — it doesn't magically anonymize all your traffic just because you install it. We recommend you use Firefox with the Torbutton extension.

      Torbutton blocks browser plugins such as Java, Flash, ActiveX, RealPlayer, Quicktime, Adobe's PDF plugin, and others: they can be manipulated into revealing your IP address. For example, that means Youtube is disabled. If you really need your Youtube, you can reconfigure Torbutton to allow it; but be aware that you're opening yourself up to potential attack.

      Also, extensions like Google toolbar look up more information about the websites you type in: they may bypass Tor and/or broadcast sensitive information. Some people prefer using two browsers (one for Tor, one for non-Tor browsing).
      Beware of cookies: if you ever browse without Tor and a site gives you a cookie, that cookie could identify you even when you start using Tor again. Torbutton tries to handle your cookies safely. CookieCuller can help protect any cookies you do not want to lose.
      Tor anonymizes the origin of your traffic, and it encrypts everything between you and the Tor network and everything inside the Tor network, but it can't encrypt your traffic between the Tor network and its final destination. If you are communicating sensitive information, you should use as much care as you would on the normal scary Internet — use HTTPS or other end-to-end encryption and authentication. HTTPS Everywhere is a Firefox extension produced as a collaboration between The Tor Project and the Electronic Frontier Foundation. It encrypts your communications with a number of major websites.
      While Tor blocks attackers on your local network from discovering or influencing your destination, it opens new risks: malicious or misconfigured Tor exit nodes can send you the wrong page, or even send you embedded Java applets disguised as domains you trust. Be careful opening documents or applications you download through Tor, unless you've verified their integrity.
      Tor tries to prevent attackers from learning what destinations you connect to. It doesn't prevent somebody watching your traffic from learning that you're using Tor. You can mitigate (but not fully resolve) the risk by using a Tor bridge relay rather than connecting directly to the public Tor network, but ultimately the best protection here is a social approach: the more Tor users there are near you and the more diverse their interests, the less dangerous it will be that you are one of them.
      Do not use BitTorrent and Tor together."

    • 10 months ago
  • Milieu
  • Progresshiv
  • MDBard
    • +2
      MDBard  
    • I've said for years they won't be happy till they know how many times a day you spank your self.... guess they'll find out....

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • remanns
  • gepma44
  • bailey78
    • +4
      bailey78  
    • We are going to lose what few rights we have left real soon. We should not have to worry about our Government tracking us like criminals. everytime we log onto the computer. I can do without this fancy toy but I know others that can't they do all their work online. I say it is time to let our voices be heard.

    • 10 months ago
  • Pheena187
    • 0
      Pheena187  
    • bailey78:

      We already have when the cloud aka Pv6 comes out. We will no longer have rights and everything we do/use on our computer wont even be saved on to our computer but a large government server so they can see all. Just like they always wanted. I honestly would rather live in another country where they let you know you aren't free; instead of a country where they tell you, you are free while taking your freedoms away while telling us it's for our "protection". .

    • 10 months ago
  • bailey78
  • Pheena187
  • LivingPong
    • +4
      LivingPong  
    • Image
    • Giant Chook Punches Tyranny in the Balls. Tyranny has no balls. Giant chook punch deemed ineffective.

      (Must make mental note, tyranny has no balls, aim higher next time.)

    • 10 months ago
  • LivingPong
  • Incredulous
  • Progresshiv
  • LivingPong
    • +5
      LivingPong  
    • I wish the TEA party would stay the Fok out of my country. It's pretty crap watching the sabotage of a so called democratic process when some people don't get their way, but when "wreck everything politics" starts being exported to other countries, it's more than a little bit shit.

      I'd point out that News Corp is well protected in Australia. The News Limited arm is going to inquire into itself. No objections from the right wing Australian Liberal/National coalition party. In fact the Liberal/National leader Tony Abbott spoke out against any inquiry and then claimed to be in favour of "free speech".
      Pretty rich comments when reflecting on the government Tony Abbott was part of under John Howard. The John Howard government initiated an inquiry into the publicly owned Australian Broadcasting Corporation when it engaged in reporting into government activities. The use of ASIO (Australian CIA) was pretty bloody liberal, that's for sure. The current Australia Labour Government is pretty bloody toothless on the issue.

      It's about time we pissed off all these old bastards and put school children in their place. No doubt the younger generation could conduct themselves with dignity and a little more honesty then some of the old farts rusting away under the cobwebs. I've no idea how long it would take to corrupt them, but then again young people have ideals and passion, they've not yet become cowards and butt lickers!

      Excuse me while I fanaticise over kicking some well deserving arse!

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • lordsbassman
  • hombre76
    • +4
      hombre76  
    • Looks to me like we all need to start investigating the tech the Chinese us to trump their governmental spying and censorship over their internet and start employing it ourselves. Mask your IP and incript any finacial transactions you make over the internet.

    • 10 months ago
  • LivingPong
  • Progresshiv
  • chew_chew
    • +5
      chew_chew  
    • Let's just go all professional-Republican-politician on em (internet businesses):

      We stop buying from them (cut off their funding), then send lots of hate mail and do interviews proclaiming what bad managers they all are for losing so much value in their stock price. All the while, we have shorted their stock before the boycott so we can make lots of money when their stock price plummets.

      The only problem is, if we're going to really get *all-up-in-their-face* professional-Republican-politician on em, we gotta figure out a way to steal their money and run their bills up beforehand, so when we stop buying their goods, they are already in a world of hurt. And naturally, we do not pay for the items we purchased.

      That should do it.

      Oh, then we could offer to loan them some money (our profits from short selling their stock) at a very high rate (since their credit rating had been destroyed by us already) for ownership of their company.

      Mr Cantor would be so proud.

      ----------------------------------

      Not sure what just came over me, but I couldn't resist.

      This is a great idea (the letter), Progressiv. And thank you kindly for sharing this info. This kind of thing really chaps my hind quarters.

    • 10 months ago
  • LivingPong
    • +2
      LivingPong  
    • chew_chew:

      Save your money and wait for them to crash the economy. Then we buy their crappy shares and sack every last stooge director involved and liquidate their assets, homes and off shore bank accounts. Next we introduce them to physical work on a minimum wage, that will really frighten them.

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
    • +2
      Progresshiv  
    • chew_chew:

      "...steal their money and run their bills up beforehand, so when we stop buying their goods, they are already in a world of hurt. And naturally, we do not pay for the items we purchased."

      Classic!

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • Incredulous
    • +5
      Incredulous  
    • Amen to that, and it won't just be Amazon that feels it. I totally agree with this, if our government wants to behave like assholes, we can certainly opt out of their smarmy little schemes. I'm damn sick and tired of being marketed to, no matter what I do. Hell, most of us don't need half the crap we buy, and I would rather support local business anyway.

      much better view of the fabulous artwork in the background this time....luv it!

      still luv your mug too Prog ;-)

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • riffmage
  • Progresshiv
  • nikonwilly
    • +7
      nikonwilly  
    • Let's do it people!
      This site congregates like minded folks...let's get something started in our respective cities...may be we could give 'current TV ' some free advertisement to get others supporting this cause ....we can only win in numbers!

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • LivingPong
  • MDBard
  • teacherdave
  • nikonwilly
  • kennymotown
    • +9
      kennymotown  
    • Does anybody now see finally after I have been saying this country has turned into a Fascist state for years. Corporations are Fascists entity's, plain and simple even when you work for one there is no DEMOCRACY in the work place! And the ass-hole Union bashers that come here have helped that situation along to what it is today. At least when your in a union you have some sort of a Democracy in the work place. They have been the shots over most workers in this country for decades, and now they have total power do yah think it will get better?

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • Georgia_Jim
    • +6
      Georgia_Jim  
    • kennymotown:

      Corporations and Republicans want to stop the voice of the little people that don't have money. Unions are the only answer. Why do you think they fight unions so hard? Because Unions take away big Corporations power and their control over the American people!!! Why Obama has not supported Unions is beyound my belief!!!! Obama needs to get some better advisors, because I think Obama is being handled and controlled by the rich!!!!

    • 10 months ago
  • kennymotown
    • +3
      kennymotown  
    • Progresshiv:

      Thanks I thought for a while I was just nuts, but since I found out through self diagnosis that I have had A>D>D all along reading Thom Hartmanns books I found out in every species those that act up and seem to stay on the fringe are actually sensitive to something going wrong. Does that make sense? I can sight a study on chimpanzees that shows what happens when those chimps are removed from the herd or pack, the pack dies off!

    • 10 months ago
  • kennymotown
  • Progresshiv
  • Almibry
  • Incredulous
  • hombre76
  • Almibry
  • lordsbassman
  • Almibry
  • Incredulous
  • Progresshiv
  • Almibry
  • Milieu
  • jackshin
    • +4
      jackshin  
    • this requires ISPs to store customers’ names, phone numbers, credit card numbers, bank account numbers and temporarily assigned IP addresses for 1 year..."

      Unfortunately, cable and cell phone companies already require a credit check and a driver's license, because for some reason they consider themselves a public utility.

      Does this mean then, these corporations are now police officers as well. And if one doesn't have any of the four they can't access the internet.

      Considering that all levels of government use the internet to demonstrate transparency, then the mere operation of this law has the effect of discriminating based on one's economic status.

      .

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • jackshin
    • +3
      jackshin  
    • Progresshiv:

      thanks, for your reply, to be honest, I don't yet see how one's net behavior is a violation of privacy, or even a fourth amendment issue, but I'm learning through these post, and I always lean towards protection of rights.

      However, my concern is that some person in Bangladesh or Nebraska realizes they are getting paid crap, and decides to sale my very personal information. After all if one thinks I could be a terrorist, then isn't it possible the person on the other side of the phone is a terrorist.

      SCOTUS says we are responsible for our own privacy, but if the law deputizes private corporations, then being responsible is an unreasonable expectation. This is especially true when the information they gather is not necessary for the service (internet, cell phones.) As much as I value my privacy, I value my economic security, and IMHO that is where the first line has to be drawn.

    • 10 months ago
  • figgdimension
  • Progresshiv
  • hombre76
  • LivingPong
  • ingsoc1984
    • +6
      ingsoc1984  
    • Once again, the Republican Taliban has proven their desire for a totalitarian oligarchy. By the way, we are well underway to ruining the internet. Remember Al Franken and his fight save net neutrality? That fight was lost, so now I wait to see the effects. Will we continue to be free to surf the web as we see fit, mostly free of charge, or will the idea of paying for Apps come to the web as well?

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
    • +5
      Progresshiv  
    • ingsoc1984:

      Now is the time to scream bloody murder. We have the power to bankrupt the criminals who seek to control our lives, and we must exercise that power in measured, non-violent ways. Boycott corporate products from companies that harm us and the earth.

    • 10 months ago
  • ingsoc1984
  • timelord999
  • Progresshiv
  • jackshin
    • +1
      jackshin  
    • timelord999:

      well its just a pukes way of doing things, they make laws intrusive and then later they run to repeal it, its way of keeping them in business (pun intended)...nice job if you can get it

    • 10 months ago
  • hombre76
    • +4
      hombre76  
    • These are the kind of laws that are truely dangerous. it is not as though this government or any equaly powerful organization cannot already aquire any of this information about anyone of us without so much as a whimper of objection. its when Laws are passed that alow this ill gotten information to be legaly used against us individuals that there is a real breach of privacy. the right to privacy is not writen into the declaration of independance or our constitution though it is implcit in its overall structure. To me this is acknowlagement by our founders that the right to privacy is imposible to enforce, but we can come close by not alowing through law "private information not obtained under the strictest of conditions from being used against the citizens in proportion to their government or equaly influincial organization in our courts" this practice levels the legal playing feild for the average citizen regardless of their finacial influance and resource. This legislative attempt must be stopped in its tracks.

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • jackshin
    • +1
      jackshin  
    • hombre76:

      " in proportion to their government or equaly influincial organization in our courts"

      I understand the first part of the quote, but I'm not understanding the second part
      ?

      my comment in form of a question, is why do these companies need the financial information

    • 10 months ago
  • hombre76
  • alexandrek
  • Progresshiv
  • hombre76
    • +2
      hombre76  
    • That is the best argument some one can make, "stop this or it will cost you more money than you care to loose." its the only thing this copratocracy understands, Profit margins.

    • 10 months ago
  • jim_b
  • Leen61
    • +7
      Leen61  
    • This is another invasion of privacy. Thanks Progresshiv for getting the word out. This is just more of our freedoms being taken away. Welcome to the Police State.

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • Leen61
  • artemis6
  • Progresshiv
  • JanforGore
    • +13
      JanforGore  
    • http://www.nydailynews.com/tech_guide/2011/07/29/2011-07-29_house_panel_approves.../politics

      This is their first step in killing free speech on the Internet. And again, look at the title of the bill (The Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011) which has no bearing on what it does. It should have been titled HR 1984. Don't they realize that anyone now intent on doing something will only circumvent the Internet? Unconstitutional and unAmerican. Thanks for the heads up.

      ______
      "Conspiracy theorists and digital rights activists, check your calendars.

      Do they say 1984?

      The U.S. House Judiciary Committee approved a bill Thursday that would require Internet service providers to keep a record of their customers’ web activity for 12 months.

      H.R. 1981 – The Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011 – was approved on a 19 to 10 vote, despite serious privacy concerns voiced from both sides of the aisle and privacy activists.

      Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, the senior Democrat on the House panel, called the bill “mislabeled,” according the CNET.

      “This is not protecting children from Internet pornography,” Conyers said. “It’s creating a database for everybody in this country for a lot of other purposes.”

      Rep. James Sensenbrenner, a Wisconsin Republican, previously criticized the bill, saying, “It can be amended, but I don’t think it can be fixed. … It poses numerous risks that well outweigh any benefits, and I’m not convinced it will contribute in a significant way to protecting children.”

      Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Tex.) who sponsored the bill, said not enacting it “would keep our law enforcement officials in the dark ages.”

      A late rewrite of the bill reportedly requires ISPs to store customers’ names, phone numbers, credit card numbers, bank account numbers and temporarily assigned IP addresses for 1 year. The panel rejected an amendment clarifying that only IP addresses be retained by a 7 to 16 vote.

      Supporters hope that the information will help police carry out investigations.

      Democratic opposition leader Rep. Zoe Lofgren of California argued that because the bill only applies to “commercial” ISPs, criminals could skirt the legislation by using the Internet “anonymously” at Web cafes and libraries.

      Senior Staff Attorney Kevin Bankston for the digital rights group Electronic Frontier Foundation called the bill “un-American” in a statement.

      “Such a scheme would be as objectionable to our founders as the requiring of licenses for printing presses or the banning of anonymous pamphlets,” Bankston said."
      ______

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • LivingPong
    • 0
      LivingPong  
    • JanforGore:

      They used the same "protect children" bullshit in Australia when they enacted ISP level filtering or "Clean Feed" as they call it. Promptly after, the government slashed the number of people who work tracking child porn offenders from 25 to 4 and also started blocking WikiLeaks. Of course the clean feed is shit and can easily be bypassed if you know a little. The secret Clean Feed black list is also quite slow to update so you often have about 5-7 days till it kicks in and starts censoring information from outlets such as WikiLeaks.

      I'd suggest purchasing a large volume memory stick to dump stuff on, torrent it and keep a hammer near by if the pigs kick you door in. One good blow and any data on that memory key is history. Smashing a HDD in with a hammer is a much more difficult exercise and takes time.

      There are a number of good software options for quickly deleting logs and anything left in browser cache. You can also run encryption on your disks but you should have a good back up system in place because you won't get that data back if something goes wrong.

      If you are rich and connected like Murdoch and other stooges, don't worry, I'm sure you could just chuck some employees to the lions and get your lawyers to brief you on how to talk shit-speak.

      Damn public, taking things into their own hands and refusing to be fed bullshit by propaganda outlets. What's a lying scum bag do to keep them dancing like trained monkeys these days?

    • 10 months ago
  • wynnmeg61
    • +6
      wynnmeg61  
    • They will do anything and everything legal and illegal, anti-american, unconstitutional ----- anything they possibly can to prevent the masses from gettig ahold of information that is not provided by the GOP sound machine.

    • 10 months ago
  • Progresshiv
  • wynnmeg61
  • freedomsings
    • +5
      freedomsings  
    • I do have to respond a bit more now. I think they are all ready doing it because several wks ago I responded to something on Yahoo and I had to sign in first before I could write anything. Now this has me worried.

    • 10 months ago
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