Sunless solar cells could make energy from anything hot
source: http://www.fastcompany.com/1770168/sun-less-solar-cells-have-a-heat-eating-secret
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Photovoltaic cells are best known for turning sunlight into electrical power--and they're big business. But did you know that there's a type of PV cell that eats heat instead of light to make power? It could replace the Li-ion battery in your cell phone, and it may also be used to scavenge waste heat from almost anything that normally dumps it into the environment, from your TV's electronics to your car's engine (even an electrical one).
Thermal PV tech has been around ages, and works the same way as the solar variation: Incoming radiation excites the atoms in its semiconductor structure, which then push electrons out--generating current. And much as is the case for solar PV cells, the advances in the tech have all been about improving their efficiency. Scientists at MIT have recently honed this tech, pushing the efficiency up so far that thermal PV cells are now a viable alternative to all sorts of other tech. MIT's breakthrough was to add a layer of tungsten to the front of a PV cell, with a surface that's been etched on a nanoscopic scale so that when heated it emits infrared light (heat) at wavelengths precisely tuned to the best efficiency of the PV cell behind it.
Right now, MIT is building the tech into tiny silicon micro-reactors. These are tiny furnaces that burn butane to generate heat, and then extract the heat to produce electricity. If that sounds convoluted, then this will impress you: The microreactors are small enough to replace the button cell Li-ion batteries you find in devices like watches, and convert the chemical ingredients that make them tick with three times better efficiency than Li-ion can match. Better yet, when they run out of fuel you simply snap in an extra cartridge of butane to recharge them.
But because MIT's system is so very efficient, and is based on a material that's not too rare or expensive, it could be used to build fuel-less heat-scavenging units that are stuck inside all sorts of devices to recover the wasted heat energy that nearly every machine we've ever made kicks out (thanks to the lovely laws of physics). How about the hot back of your TV? Or the hot chassis of the electric motor in your Nissan Leaf? Let's get fanciful and imagine it would be possible to claw back a few milliwatts of energy from the hot shower water you simply let run down the drain.
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MajorMajorMajorMajor
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Imagine lining ever car on the road with this stuff. Not only is the engine hot, but the sunlight hitting the body generates so much heat.
Today when I opened my car door, it felt like I opened the oven. My hands were dancing across the steering wheel trying not to get burned.
That's all energy. So much energy.
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MajorMajorMajorMajor
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TheAmbivalante
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Damn!
Just when I convert my coffeemaker to run on diesel, they figure this out...
- 10 months ago
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TheAmbivalante
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freehit
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As I sit here in Flori-duh naked and sweating (no working AC) it sounds like something very good for here. However I have the same question as simplecj as to the need for a temperature gradient.
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freehit
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Gravity_Man
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freehit:
Wouldn't the energy source be the gradient????
- 10 months ago
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Gravity_Man
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freehit
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Gravity_Man:
I was thinking of a system proposed 20+ years ago that used bi-metal arms that rotated in a pool of water that was divided into a cold half and a hot half. As the metal bent in the hot and unbent in the cold it drove the rotation of the assembly. (Think of the old time coiled bi-metal thermostats, the temperature change is what makes the coil bend and move the mercury switch on the end of the coil.) From what I gather of the article I'm assuming it collects infrared radiation to kick the electons out, so you're right. Amazing what a good nights sleep does for the brain. On that note, it's time for me to say good night all and go to bed.
- 10 months ago
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freehit
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Gravity_Man
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freehit:
There are many ways to make a Difference Engine. I had a sudden idea last November for harnessing the pressure of deep ocean water => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apQTwE9daXs (45 second video).
- 10 months ago
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Gravity_Man
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VoyagerFilms
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Nice technology. We generate and loose heat in vast quantities. Converting it is an excellent idea and will further reduce our dependence on not just foreign oil, but also on local power companies. It's all good.
Just imagine the world if we could produce our own power as desired. It would have a profound and beneficial effect on the (political) power structure
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VoyagerFilms
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Gravity_Man
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VoyagerFilms:
Correct me if I'm wrong but in smokestacks the heat is what catalyzes the various vile pollutants to cross-combine & react to form even worse pollutants. If this system pulls heat out BEFORE THAT HAPPENS then there goes a big chunk of pollution.
I LIKE IT.
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Gravity_Man
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jackshin
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great find...i would luv to be able to use the heat generated in the attic
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jackshin
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GRC54
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This sounds good to me. A cheap way to produce power and reclaim the entropy of all machines. For those who don't know what entropy is it's energy doing no work, (wasted energy).
A system like this would be just what the colder climates need to offset the cost of their utility bills.
OK now lets see how long the utility companies make it so that even this system is too expensive for the average home owner. - 10 months ago
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GRC54
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cmc101
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we had this on the first nuclear sub in the 60's they still don't want to share.
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cmc101
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Gravity_Man
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cmc101:
You really think it's that simple eh ("not sharing")? I guess Americans having to visit Mexico for intravenous chelation therapy... Australians pioneering solar towers... Tata Motors of India having air-powered cars. All "not sharing" eh?
American males are under a spread torpedo psychological attack. It lowers the reproductive rate. A melting pot doubles as a petri dish. All the healthy sperm get sent overseas to die, or return all crippled down on the floor needing medication.
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Gravity_Man
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cmc101
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Gravity_Man:
how old are you
Have you read the popular mechanics mag of the late 50s and early 60s ?
most of our tech knowledge of to day was sponsored by tax payer money therefore it was made available to the world the tech knowledge owned by coperations has not been shared they acquire patents and do not release them to the public they only rent the product
the air power car was on the streets in Joplin,Missouri in 1970 I watch it Tata motors have the patent because the developer in Joplin died anyone want to make a solar panel to sell here in the united states will be sued down to the color green paint because Eagle-Pitcher and Dupont owns the patent.
Only Patent that expire are the ones that your tax money developed
Now with the privatization of nasa the space Medicine will cease and will be sold and or lease to the highest bidder
privatization of the VA will mean all tax payer money go only to leased services (no accountability) privatization of social security no accountabilityMy chemotherapy was $90,000 for 9 shots and i went to a out of network hospital for an x-ray and was charged $5,000 surcharge my medicine cost $180.00 per month my copay is $30.00 a month the taxpayer pay $150.00 a month I can buy it from Canada for $30,00 a month at no cost to the taxpayer but when i do that, my other medicine will not be paid for by my insurance that medicine is not available in Canada
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cmc101
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Gravity_Man
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cmc101:
I invented Home Chemo. I don't need all that crap you're doing. Did you hear about the "new" prostate cancer treatment using nutrition? hahaha Who th' hell do you think they got that from? August 31 2007 My News Release => http://www.prleap.com/pr/91843 ahh, but I see they've pulled it offline. hehehe Good move. My information is on my homepage anyway for anyone to read => www.newpath4.com
And who holds the Patent on Steam? hahaha Anyone can make a steam engine. Anyone can make an upside down waterfall too. How much horsepower does it take to spin a MAGNETO?
We can have self-powered homes and cars any time we want without anybody's permission, or their old patents. Steam explosion power is a State Change that is near-instantaneous, which means HORSEPOWER GOES OFF THE CHARTS.
- 10 months ago
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Gravity_Man
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simplecj
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Do they require a temperature gradient though? Like hot on one side, cold on the other?
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simplecj
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Johnny_Los_Angeles
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It wouldn't be called "photo"voltaic if it doesn't use light only heat.
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Johnny_Los_Angeles
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Swisher
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How about thermal cells behind PV cells to absorb the heat they collect when hit by the sun? That would be a double whammy.
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Swisher
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simplecj
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Swisher:
Excellent point! PV panels put off a LOT of heat, I've often wondered about implementing a dual system to make use of this heat. My other idea was to sandwich PV ontop of solar water heating panels for residential use, but if your goal was electricity only it would make sense to harvest both light and heat for that purpose. Wonder what the price point is for the thermal cells?
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simplecj
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Swisher
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simplecj:
Several companies have worked that idea. I wondered the same when I saw all the heat pouring off PV Panels my father owns.
http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/sundrum-a-turbocharger-for-solar-sys... - 10 months ago
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Swisher
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hurleyburly
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Sounds great....all the uberhot electronics(looking at you tv) would be more than overpriced spaceheaters.
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hurleyburly
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Buddha2112
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I hope this is true, i just don't like how they call it a 'sun-less' Solar cell...
Just call it thermal-voltaic and call it a day... Can't have sunless solar anything.
Certainly an awesome thing, but I can't imagine it's as 'efficient' as they say it is...
Especially when MIT's design is capturing heat from spent Butane (which burns very hot)... That being so, I doubt it could really generate much useful energy from everyday discharge of heat from tech/bio-mechanics.
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Buddha2112
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JanforGore
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Buddha2112:
I think that term was just used as a term to decribe that it isn't from the sun. PV cells is actually what they are, but I like thermal voltaic as well. However, many don't understand what that is...yet.
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JanforGore
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Buddha2112
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JanforGore:
understandable, but meh, apples are apples to me, but the headline did its job, got my attention :p
I don't know why you're randomly getting downvoted... Ah well. Current is turning into a voting game, that carries from topic to topic without regards to what is actually being said. - 10 months ago
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Buddha2112
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gypsysailor
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This was discussed at a Furturist Society meeting a couple of years back. It works. Now the problem is to make it affordable. How about solar panels that collect solar radiation from the galaxy at night and not just the sun. It's here. How about a paint job on your car that powers your car? It's coming soon. This is not BS, this is out there right now.
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gypsysailor
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Richard_Wyatt
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I really hope this is true. Could make the need for drilling obsolete.
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Richard_Wyatt
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JanforGore
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Hmm, how about body heat.. ;-)
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JanforGore
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EdJoyProductions
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JanforGore:
I was thinking the exact same thing. There was a porno movie in the seventies about people having sex to create energy. It was really bad but amusing. It immediately sprung to mind. :)
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EdJoyProductions
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JanforGore
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EdJoyProductions:
Now wouldn't that beat just turning on the furnace to burn that dirty oil. ;-)
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JanforGore
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EdJoyProductions
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JanforGore:
I am going to recharge my car with a little Afternoon Delight.
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EdJoyProductions
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Gravity_Man
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JanforGore:
Tailpipe heat. Smokestack heat. Dog chasing tail heat.
Children fidgetting at movie heat (in theatre seats, used to power movie projector, sound system and popcorn popper in the lobby). But the first person who proclaims it to be Perpetual Motion will kill it.
oops.
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Gravity_Man
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Gravity_Man
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JanforGore:
Jan, an energy-scavenging system like this means you can turn down the furnaces to be using 33% of normal oil settings. That is because you have raised the furnace's efficiency from 20-30% to close to 100% = No Wasted Fuel.
Widely implemented this would reduce the Global Climate Spiking causing BioDistress.
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Gravity_Man
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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Now that's what I am talking!
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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JanforGore
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM:
There's energy all around us.
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JanforGore
