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Really? The reason they aren't processing the tarsands in Canada ~instead sending to Louisiana~ is for shipping around the world from their ports. Skip the US.

Turn yur brain on next time before you type. The screw they have planned for Americans goes beyond your capacity to understand that level of evil & hate.

Advantage => Christian.

I am SO , truly glad you asked this question . And i hope everyone reads this response . I already have left big oil behind , and so have a LOT of others . In the Seattle area Within the next 6 months , there will be a total of ONE THOUSAND e vehicle charging sites . One the eastern side of Washington state , is Spokane . It has the notable importance of being a test market . That means , if you can sell an idea THERE , is will sell ANYWHERE . They have 7 e vehicle charging sites , with more on the way . Also , they have a company BUILDING electric cars there . I am still frustrated at those who have not changed over . Mainstream media will not have this known , but it IS happening . However , sooner , would be better .

Again , i am glad you asked . I have been researching e vehicles for many years , you can view my posts here . U of Wa. did a study , they wondered , since we are one of the most northern states ( this was 7 years ago ) how much of our electricity we could get from the sun ALONE . After the research was done , 70% . NOW , if you drive across the state , you will see many wind farms , and solar farms . As i said before , we have more energy than we need at this time . If we a far north state can do it , the other states , excluding alaska , have NO EXCUSE . So , NO oil need be used in the manufacture of these vehicles . Of course you can charge you e vehicle at home . I have an e bike . You can pedal it , if you want to extend the range . It has an older Lithium ion battery , ONLY 1 third as efficient as the new ones . For one 12 cent charge , i can go 40 miles , before charging , or pedaling . I hear of a battery in the works that will be 10 times as efficient as mine . When mine wears out , in 7 to 10 years .... I might get one . As for your reservations . Why don't you do some research ? I think you are just afraid you might have to change . Yes it will be SO HARD ! I just wish i could have done it sooner . Do you enjoy being in the ethical position of giving money and power to terrorists Corporations that steal jobs and the glory of the Earth from your children ? Does YOUR chest swell with pride when you pump gas like a man ? You are a slave to them . They do not want you to have a choice . How many e vehicles are actually for sale where you live ? They do not want you having one and you are obedient . Good luck to you .

China and India are the new markets now. They want to get them addicted too. It's what drug dealers do.

david h , It was you who started off on a high horse , asking how many of us would park our cars . And now your feelings are hurt i see . And NOW , you fabricate an image of me that comforts you . You could have looked at the hundreds of stories i posted here over the years to have an idea of me that might resemble reality . You have a lot of fear . It seems to me you comfort yourself by saying to yourself , that The NEW ideas are no better than the old ones , so i will stick with the old ones . The global corporate terrorism ,that does long term damage to the planet does not make that much a difference to you . I have never been to the gulf of Mexico , so perhaps , is should not matter to me . There is a little evil in everything , in this case one is VASTLY more evil . Until we get it all changed over , nothing will be pure . Is that a good enough excuse to not even try ? For me , it wasn't .

You asked the questions , i answered it . I have long ago stopped driving a car . In fact many people have . Now i will ask you , your own question . Are you willing to park your car , or not .

I for one am GLAD you're pointing out the awesome issue of a PLANET STUFFED WITH USED DISCARDED BATTERIES. My innovative engine conversion of all combustion engines to EXPLODING STEAM doesn't use all those batteries. I've been "preaching" against hybrids since the day they began rolling off Detroit Michigan assembly lines.

Interesting idea . I got a question , Why convert electricity to steam ? Why not just use it directly ?

As i already said , nothing will be pure , until we get it all changed over to sustainable power . You want to put the cart before the horse . Tell me , have you a better idea ? Please share .

Because electricity doesn't Multiply and Steam does, from Water into Steam the volume is instantly mutiplied from one drop into 800. That's a forge hammer when unleashed all at one time.

Electricity is NOTHING beside Flashed Steam. An increase of 800 is instantaneous 80,000% EXPLOSION WITHOUT COMBUSTION & WITHOUT POLLUTION, and very powerful because it's what is called a "State Change". That's a Law of Physics concerning H2O. In other words we're talking CANNED DYNAMITE. You'll hear people cast doubts on my ideas because they want to sell you "controlled power" that comes out SLOW thru a METER to charge you. That's what electricity alone is. Locomotive steam engines was also controlled power too.

My conversion is not that.

I don't know how many times I have to type FLASH STEAM FLASH STEAM FLASH STEAM FLASH STEAM FLASH STEAM FLASH STEAM FLASH STEAM FLASH STEAM FLASH STEAM FLASH STEAM FLASH STEAM til someone understands, but I'm game. Tell ya what, think of it like this. When you blow up a balloon it takes many long breaths of air, but when you stick a needle into the balloon that's a FLASH RELEASE.

Another way to think of it is the difference between a battery and a capacitor. You can have a big battery and a big capacitor side by side and they're both the same size, so to your eyes they look like two harmless batteries. But if you lay your hand across the terminals of a battery nothing happens but if across the capacitor terminals it will discharge all at one time through your hand and quite literally cook the flesh from point A over to point B.

Well, that's what my engine will do. Cook. In a car it will lay rubber down the highway for miles. Think in terms also of driving one of those long dragsters and coming off the starting line smoke rolling off the tires. That's what my engine will do. That's why I don't get mad at anybody for not understanding. They simply can't conceive of that much raw energy in a normal car.

Of course Detroit wouldn't give that much horsepower to a passenger car nor should they ever, so what they would do is make a smaller engine, which loses more weight, which gives it even more "available" power. One reason everyone has so much difficulty conceiving of all that Power coming from Water is George W. Bush gave a podium speech years ago claiming "there is no magic wand energy", and at other times he kept repeating the phrase about stuff "being real hard", til he brainwashed the entire continent into thinking ENERGY IS HARD. A LIE.

That's why you all keep thinking in terms of nice, comfy, slow, controlled-release power like a Timed-Release prescription pill. I'm talking Greek to you => I'm talking CHERRY BOMB POWER FROM WATER, WHICH BUSH CALLED MAGIC. Well, it isn't magic but in a very real sense it is ENERGY ALCHEMY.

The Puppet Masters think you're all too stupid to understand it but I do not and never have. I've been writing about my wonderful engine systems since 2003. A few women online did understand but soon as someone saw a spark almost light the pile they'd swoop in paid by George Walker Bush to stomp out the fire I was trying to ignite.

What we today now call "trolls" but back then they were just paid assassins.

Really? Combustion engines relatively clean?

Just how much hydroelectric dams worth of electricity do you think it takes to flash a few drops of water past 212 Fahrenheit anyway?

You're thinking electricity is the Prime Mover; it isn't. Electricity is the catalyst. The Physics Explosion properties of liquid water into steam is your Prime Mover.

It is perhaps a difficult concept. Perhaps you aren't ready for a synaptic speed engine process.

Getting people to be exclusively local is a fine idea , and i do agree with you on that , except for emergencies . Except that we will have to figure out how to get food to the large population densities , and injured hikers to a hospital . When a home or field gets struck by lightening and burns , i hope there will be a fire department to save the crops .... I have thought about this a bit , and what i have come to so far , is that there will NEED to be a TRANSITIONAL Society , BEFORE we get to the ideal . WE have no sane choice , but to get there , and there are two ends of the spectrum as to HOW . Keep in mind , this is a gross oversimplification , for the purpose of dialogue , I define them , thus . The easy way , giving people time to develop technology , and adapt as they will (in their respective environments ) , and the very hard (cold turkey) way where lots of people with very low coping skills commit acts of violence (war) out of fear . No leader is going to stand up for this role . We each must do what we can in our own corner of the map .

In my opinion , the first thing to do is to STOP supporting the OIL infrastructure of power and influence . Politicians are of little importance , as they must get campaign funding FROM big oil to even be a contender . Other than that i agree with you . Everything , and i DO mean EVERYTHING you want to happen , will be stopped at every turn , as long as the Oil companies are getting money and other resources from every individual on this planet .

Did you know that , at one time More than just San Francisco had electric trolleys ? There was a convergence of interests that did not want this . Guess who ? San Francisco , is the ONLY City to fight them successfully . America's "love affair " with the Automobile , is a manufactured want . People were trained for generations to expect this culture , to love it . That has nothing to do with the Politicians .

Yes but it isn't as though some of us aren't fighting for a choice. And India and China using us as an excuse to make the same mistakes knowing what they are doing doesn't absolve them either.

Jesus was a protester . Remember the money changers ?

sorry .

This , is INSANE !

Just checked again to see if this is getting Canadian coverage
and IT IS!!
All the major papers, as well as the two National TV News Networks have picked it up (on their websites) (CBC and CTV).
The newspapers - Globe & Mail and Star (both based in Toronto) are the two biggies & they're covering it, I don't see it yet on the National Post YET (ultra rightwing) but am sure they will AFTER I send them an email saying the others have covered it; am sure they're aware of that, but they need a "nudge.". All the other individual provinces' majors are covering as well!!!

Word is getting out re the protest. We all have to keep this going.

I'll be sending out some e-mails too and will try to keep this going. This thread however will be falling now I am sure. I'll repost another one tomorrow with updates.

What there's no wind in Canada?

Nope, none - not even a breeze....
Really tho, most of it is "hot air" blowing from politicians' mouths - telling us how good the tarsands projects are for the country's economy, sucking up all the oxygen wherever they go. Truly, a big bag of sickos.

Heh Heh, we may look a little dumb but most of us do know whose pockets are being lined; we've been a "branch office" to big oil - since the 1950s when we had out first gusher and the oil started to flow big time, most of SOUTHward. Most of us who don't work for oil companies, and even those who do and won't speak ill of their masters, are fully aware of what's being done here, we've had many years to learn who and where the fat cats are.

Thanks for this I will make sure of it. I will also give thanks to those who do cover it.

There is no debate: The answer is NO.

Just like the nuclear fallout that is leaking out (who knows where, or how much) from Fukushima in Japan, this is another example of catastrophic disasters that cannot be taken back once it is let loose on our planet. I am so disgusted right now. I have never felt so defeated.

Don't feel defeated. What is happening now is historic and we are part of it. My son came to me yesterday and said to me that he was so proud that I was doing what I do because it has made him so much more aware and that he is going to speak out too. Our youth are the key to this and they want to be part of a movement that makes a positive change. This is our time and it is theirs. I always look back to the woman's suffrage movement and it gives me inspiration. It can be done. Keep that as your mantra and always stay focused and work towards the goal and never give up. And even if this does go through, our children and our youth will know that we did not abandon them and we can fight it together.

I'm in total agreement. Our kids and grandkids are the keys to making these improvements. Made a comment (below) to Buckey-Bill about the strides my own daughter has made and is taking to improve their lives - she's doing her first "potato harvest" today and is quite tickled about it. Your son sounds like he's received your teachings very well. Good on you!!!

Thanks, and good on you too.

Thanks Jan, I got ya! I am back today, renewed and refreshed. I am praying for all of our brave and heroic concerned citizens who are standing strong in DC today. Those who will go to jail and those who are being held. Power to the People!!!

Heck , yeah , we are fighting form the life of the planet here !

The arrest have started already. I stand with you today in solidarity with the brave souls who are getting arrested in hopes of drawing attention to tarsands. I say NO to Tar Sands.

Amen. Keystone...NO.

( And I will say it as many times as it takes.)

So true, our concerned citizens are not given a voice. I don't think this is much better than the Wisconsin Congressman charging his constituents a fee to see him. In my view, that is what is going on in DC, after all, these folks are paying a fine well over my day's pay, to stand in front of "our" White House and hold a sign for less than one hour (or that is my guess on the time frame). At any rate, it is leaving us with basically no voice. Just breaks my heart to see how bad things are today.

OH....and to top it all off, no MSM is covering this; which is obviously another source of "control" that is taking place, outside of our reach. Top Secret...."folks holding signs in front of White House, day 2, and being arrested for standing on sidewalk". vomit

Yes, and according to some these days, if you have a refrigerator, then you have it great! lol (imagine?).

Exactly, Bill. You're so right and you get the "kewpie doll of the day" award. And thanks for the other videos posted here and putting such effort into the cause.
It's not covered AT ALL in the Canadian media because of the $$$Xbillions are flowing into their already fat wallets - and environment (which includes the people) is being steamrolled - they say: the people "can just keep their mouths shut" - because it's bringing money into Alberta and therefore Canadian coffers.
But slowly, we're being heard and we're educating our children and many others - just over the past 3 years, I've noticed a huge increase in the numbers of people getting involved. My own daughter, and her daughter, are died-in-the-wool environmentalist (My daughter moved her family a year ago to an area where they have a huge garden, small greenhouse, and everyone barters and trades (she listened to my stories of the '60s and 70s) - I do believe that education is the ONLY way we'll ever turn these horrible outrages around. We must "teach our children well."

"It's not covered AT ALL in the Canadian media..."

Because who is the largest "customer' of Oh, Canada"? A Reliable Resource To Meet US Energy Demands?

US, the U.S.!

There's an unholy "marriage"between our two countries!

Thank you so much for posting this doc. David Suzuki's been educating millions for 30 years - there isn't an environmental issue too hot for him to sound-off on, and he explains things so simply. The Alberta tar sands is an atrocity, the epitome of the David and Goliath battle.
This documentary should be a must-see in all classrooms, boardrooms and living rooms.

And China is exactly where this sludge will go. This isn't being done as a "charitable" action for Americans. It's always all about the money damn the real costs.

Jobs is a "talking point" the truth behind the curtain much more insidious. (almost always is). Sure we need jobs, and like you say, clean jobs, ones that improve our country is the direction we need to go. Their jobs? they will end up creating more superfund sites. Now there are great job futures. :(

YES to this protest rising from 16th to 13th position in two hours.

YES to being heard.