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24 Hours of Reality: Earth definitely in the balance

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JanforGore
This past Wednesday and Thursday there was an event that took place that once again reiterated the urgency of a crisis that scientists have been warning us about for the last five plus decades. 24 Hours of Reality started at 8pm EST culminating in 23 subsequent hours from around the world in relaying to the over 8 million viewers the urgency of a crisis that warranted our attention all of those years ago. And I personally think it succeeded in doing just that. While in my own personal opinion I think some of the presenters could have been a bit more passionate about the information, it nevertheless was an effective tool in showing the reality of the consequences of the human forcings upon our natural processes that are now pushing this planet to a tipping point. Although, some complained of the monotony of the same presentation over and over and over again and I can also see that point. It actually might have been better to do a documentary on the effects of climate change globally with us actually seeing testimonials from people experiencing its effects (like the Inuit in Alaska) then have Al with the help of the scientists tie it all together along with the information on the well funded denier movement and a special segment on solutions and their availability to us right now. However, I still think the point was made.

There is definitely a need to remove the doubt which has been paid for by entities such as the Marshall Institute which was also instrumental in sowing seeds of doubt about missile defense, acid rain, effects of smoking and now seeds of doubt regarding the established and settled science behind global warming. And the established science that was discussed by the scientists on the panels put together for this event that spoke the facts about a world on the precipice regarding food, water and humanity, but with solutions that can still be implemented and are being implemented by the most unlikely among us were also informative.

A boy in Malawi who made a windmill out of old bicycle parts and other materials that wound up serving the needs of his community. The rise of solar in places like Sierra Leone and Kenya, as well as the international shift towards renewable energy even here in the US where wind energy has soared made the message clear: This is not a political issue, but a human one. Our ability to survive the effects of what we have now brought upon ourselves is indeed in the balance in the greatest test of the human spirit.

In watching this these were the messages: that this transcends politics and all of the other stigmatisms placed on the human condition. That we now must finally see that it matters not where you live, or your culture, or your beliefs, or your color, or your biases because this is a real crisis that calls upon our moral courage as citizens of this planet to make it right as best we can now possibly do. And that finally we must bring out into the light of day those who have been slinking in the darkness doing all they could to keep this truth from being believed for what it is and thus delaying action on a crisis of our environment and conscience that now sees our work made even harder.

These are messages we must take to heart, and to our pens, and our modems, and our voices, and our votes. There is no contestation of these facts. Every national scientific academy in the world agrees that this is happening and that we humans are primarily responsible for these shifts and changes by our actions. Every scientific institution whose scientists publish in the peer reviewed journals agrees that this is happening and is primarily driven by human activity.

The Earth revolves around the sun, gravity keeps you grounded and CO2 traps heat. And when more of it goes into our atmosphere than is within the natural envelope that keeps our temperature comfortable for our existence and the balance of our ecosystems, it traps more of the sun's infrared rays thus warming the lower atmosphere and raising temperature. This combines with other greenhouse gases in our atmosphere such as water vapor, methane, nitrous oxide and sulfur dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels, land usage, deforestation etc. and it amplifies the effects of the forcings upon the atmosphere resulting in patterns that lead us to water evaporation, droughts, sea level rise, glacier melt, floods, storms, as well as species invasion, extinction and the spread of diseases. And the more we continue to treat the atmosphere as an open sewer the more we amplify these effects now to the point where we have actually managed to oversaturate the hydrologic cycle which explains in part the severity and frequency of the global events that we have experienced costing us lives, agriculture, water quality, economies and biodiversity.

The atmosphere like our water is a public trust, a public commons if you will. Not to be used as a dumping ground at the whim of those who have the money to do so. We all need to be able to breathe the air and be confident that we and other species will all be assured equality in the quality of our air, water and other life sustaining resources. However, this is not happening presently and it needs to be addressed now.

And for me the one man who has been able to articulate this message in the way it needs to be articulated is Al Gore. For over thirty years he has been out here telling us about the findings of scientists like Roger Revelle, Charles Keeling and the world we would find ourselves in if we did not heed these findings and warnings. It was why he decided to seek public office all those years ago hoping that once this was seen it would be of primary importance. And here a bit over thrity years later here we are still at that fork in the road.

Only now, it is not just some faraway scenario of the future that we can afford to place at the bottom of the pile. It is a present danger to our continued existence because it is not just a rainstorm here and there or a heatwave every once in a while. It is about the total shifting of the patterns of the climate system that sustains our ability to feed ourselves, house ourselves and provide for our sustenance. It is about our morality, our humanity and our ability to come together without seeing the labels that have to this point restricted our humanity. It is about providing a cleaner healthier environment for us and for those to come in order to preserve that climate system and the other systems that depend on it as we do.

But as we all know, certain interests with their money and political ties have been working overtime to keep their status quo at any cost and work to smear anyone who dares challenge it, but challenge it we must if we are to have a future. And this is just one reason why I love this man so much. His unwavering passion, perseverence and courage to do what is right in the face of what seems like insurmountable odds and hatefilled rancor. It is truly a testamount to a man who has transcended it because he sees the higher purpose to it. This is what we all must strive for. For this is not an illusion, it is reality. A reality of our making and a reality we can make even better in seeing at last our true purpose on this planet.

This is my comment which can be found here:
http://progressivesforgore.blogspot.com/2011/09/earth-definitely-in-balance.html

Videos of the event can be seen on the Climate Reality Project site since it seems they are not allowing sharing outside of the site.
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71 comments // 24 Hours of Reality: Earth definitely in the balance

  • IceKat
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      IceKat  

    • "If the definition for a documentary is 'presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film,' then I am confident that Al Gore's movie was not a documentary," he said. Indeed, in 2007 the High Court in London identified nine errors in the film, and Ratcliffe said he found 35 fundamental errors "without trying too hard."

      So far no-one has bothered to analyse the 24 hour propaganda fest, there probably isn't much point, but if it was anything like his science fiction movie, I'm sure it was riddled with hilarious fiction.

      So many people who should have been supporting Gore came out and spoke of their disappointment. Even the UK's Guardian, usually pro-anything green, wrote a scathing report of the propaganda-fest:

      " So I was a little nervous this morning logging into Climate Reality – Al Gore‘s 24-hour global-warming warning – as to what I might discover. And, I have to say, my heart immediately sank.

      A no-doubt sincere presenter from the Solomon Islands was showing slide after slide of extreme weather events around the world that have occurred over the past year and linking everyone, it seemed, to the rise in anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions. As anyone who follows the climate debate closely knows, that is a very contentious peg on which to hang your hat. That kind of talk traditionally requires lots of caveats and careful explaining. Done with abandon and raw emotion – as this presenter seemed to be doing – and you are quickly labelled in some quarters as a climate “alarmist”.

      And, for me, this is one of the key challenges the Climate Reality project faces. Who exactly is it trying to convince with its urgent, sometimes breathless campaign? Is it preaching to the converted? If so, it is doing a good job." - Leo Hickman.

      So the environmentalists are coming out in force against the extremists. Surely that speaks volumes to all but the most hardened alarmists. Gore's days are numbered. All this talk of global warming when reality presents people with snow falling in Hawaii, an early snowfall in Europe, and more:

      "Early-season hikers encountered snow-covered mountain passes" Los Angeles Times · 08/09/2011

      "An early blizzard Tuesday morning at the top of Pikes Peak ..." Denver Post · 13/09/2011

      "A slow-moving storm is expected to bring the mountains surrounding Aspen an early taste of snow on Wednesday night..." Aspen Times · 13/09/2011

      Heavy snowfalls have hit the Austrian alps, a few years ago we were told to expect less snow!

      And before anyone starts bleating on about snow being consistent with global warming, one thing that is really important for snow to accumulate on the ground - cold temperatures!

    • 8 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • IceKat:

      It turned colder at night here in Roanoke the past 5 nights, and for September it is usually very hot yet. Since this area has been impervious to all the bad weather systems, seeing it turning in ANY DIRECTION is a terrifically powerful indicator. >>> The moisture in the air is very evident. The clouds yesterday looked funny somehow. I would say offhand with the facts you've quoted about Aspen snow and all that we're in for ONE HECKUVA WINTER, not necessarily overly-cold but definitely some heavy snowpack is in the cards soon.

      >>> We COULD be seeing a 100% correction coming to the North Pole and other snow-depleted areas of the world. Of course these crazies around here in Virginia, they think they can call for it to warm up, they were doing it this past week, as if calling out for a return to hot weather going out on the airwaves could call it to come back little Sheba or something. I've seen them do this before. It has gotten right old.

      >>> If this is indeed happening it's a welcome surprise because if it held off much longer the pendulum swing could have thrown us into a Mini Ice age situation.

      >>> And if it turns out you were "right all along" I wouldn't go celebrating just yet because until we find out exactly WHY you were right you lack credentials, aka it could've been a good guess. I would be interested to know what's happening in Australia right now when you have that handy. Thanks IceKat!

    • 8 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • IceKat:

      For a couple days maybe 3 or 4 now, or so, I've been noticing when I let the sink water drain it makes a really wide vortex, very pretty. I can't recall when I saw that happen last and of course it indicates a big change in air pressure. Any thoughts?

    • 8 months ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  

    • To "environmentalists" questioning Mr. Gore's way of getting out this message: Personally I find it a bit arrogant because it is a very hard issue to get across because it is so grey to so many people and black and white to others. And in Mr. Gore's case, he already has an unfriendly media and RW ideologues to deal with ( as we see clearly.) Also as he has correctly stated before corporations like Koch Industries have more in the way of dollars to use to spread misinformation and doubt. We're talking about decades of this misinformation being fed to people over and over and over again trying to lull them into some false sense of security that everything is OK just to protect their own balance sheets.

      I would then hope any so called "environmentalists" who find fault with Mr. Gore's method of educating on this would do it better if they can and or work to help him do that instead of constantly criticizing him as a messenger. He never proclaimed he was the leader of anything. He made a movie on it (after having to be talked into it which I can understand,) wrote a couple of good books on this crisis, did his presentations, went up to Capitol Hill three times and actually did more I would suspect than many others in the past few years to get out a message the forces of resistance are very adamant about seeing silenced to protect themselves, while others ignored this.

      But isn't that the way? You dedicate much of your life to an important cause because it is important and in the process you pour out your soul only to have it all relegated to irrelevancy by people who think they always know more than you or have all of the answers but can never quite seem to articulate them themselves effectively. I will then be waiting for the environmental groups that think his thirty plus years of trying to get through to the brainwashed distracted masses in this country that place more importance on celebrity news than this to show us all the way since they've all done such a good job up until now. Oh, and please hold everyone talking about this to the same judgmental standards as you do him. Then you all might not look like such hyprocrites in helping these BS deniers in distracting from the real issue: The preservation of a habitable planet.

      _____________
      And to the obsessed trolls that keep trying to tie this entire crisis to one man in order to distract from the truth of it, you are all full of shit. No other way to phrase it.

      Now go see how many other links you can cherrypick to take up time in your pathetic life. Oh, and don't forget to look at the comments in the latest article posted by the stalker denier here. Both comments, all two of them are not really pleased or in agreement with their "opinion." Did they sell out to the Koch brothers too? What garbage.

    • 8 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • JanforGore:

      Jan, Mr. Gore is mired down in worse quicksand than VIETNAM it is time to cut his losses and back away from the table. This battle can not be won VERBALLY and apparently not visually either. He needs to stop talking about the great ball under his arm and TUCK ONE UNDER HIS ARMPIT
      AND RUN LIKE HELL FOR THE GOAL LINE.

      PICK A GOOD SOLID SOLAR PRODUCT & RE-DIRECT ENERGIES ASAP

    • 8 months ago
  • IceKat
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      IceKat  
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    • It doesn't look good when even environmentalists (the more sane ones) thought it was a heap of___

      This from Catherine Brahic, environment news editor, NewScientist.

      "It was cringe-worthy, quite dull, and sadly not very compelling...

      ...But I'm still left with the overwhelming feeling that Gore's time is over. As Mike Shanahan of the International Institute for Environment and Development puts it: "climate change needs a Gandhi or a Martin Luther King or a Mandela, and Al Gore is none of those".

      http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/culturelab/2011/09/al-gores-underwhelming-24-h...

    • 8 months ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  

    • My reply directly to the attack story noted as they more than likely won't publish it. Also noted recently regarding Australia how the pop eyed poster boy for climate denial paid by the coal industry there did a tour to scare people into thinking a carbon tax was the bogeyman and not the droughts and floods they have been experiencing and was roundly rejected by universities and thinking people there alike because they as well know what a load of c_ he spews. Which is why I ignore their sockpuppets here. SOS. And just to add: This is where we need to respond. On these media sites to counter the garbage. Not to the drones on sites like this whose MO is already known.

      ___________
      "SCIENCE has proven the facts he and scientists discussed in this program. SCIENCE which I notice was not refuted here. Not weathermen, not coal company officials who buy others to do their bidding in traveling around scaring people, but real climate scientists who are diseminating facts that people need to know in order to adapt to a changing world that they have seen and see firsthand. And I think for the media of any country to downplay the urgency of this simply because they harbor a political grudge especially in light of the events that have and are taking place in their own country and globally is blatantly irresponsible. Here's hoping the people of Australia are a lot smarter than you give them credit for, and they unlike some do care about their future and respect established science. And of course, I am sure this comment won't be published because your only motivation here is political character attack."
      ____
      And gee the comment was published, minus my last sentence. Works everytime.
      ;-).

    • 9 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • JanforGore:

      The 4th Estate is completely muzzled without even made a whimper when it was done to them. News is under a lockdown, a ban.

      We no longer get real News. I will say this though that if & when once people were to see my last solar device THEIR EYES WOULD BE OPENED and they would KNOW they no longer need "fossil fuels".

      And just imagine Jan, every day, every day, every day the sun "comes up", the sun "goes down", an ENERGY BATH GIVEN US EVERY DAY & we stand dumber than the dumbest dumb brute animal lifeform watching it go by, then we struggle all day and all night to make money to pay for fuel... fuel to get us to the next day, so that we can watch the sun pass before our faces all over again.

      We're not even as smart as the flowers that close up at night and open up the next morning to take in the sunlight's power, and life.

    • 9 months ago
  • IceKat
  • JanforGore
  • Gravity_Man
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  

    • And as could definitely be predicted, the usual bitter suspects including the BOUGHT CORPORATE MEDIA are now trashing the man in their reviews of this rather than focusing on the crisis. That's how you know what is truth. The ones they target they target for a reason. And I expect the Australian rags to be particularly harsh since they are backed by coal as are their denialist frauds.

    • 9 months ago
  • IceKat
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  

    • I would like to see less CO2 (favoring plants being super healthy) traded out for higher airborne Oxygen levels (favoring all human immune systems stopping cancer better). As well all other anaerobic disease organisms being better contained, whether it helps stop Climate Change or not, whether it saves polar bears, or not, or anything.

      WE NEED A significantly-HIGHER OXYGEN CONTENT IN THE AIR.

      WHICH MEANS AL GORE IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

    • 9 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Gravity_Man:

      Al Gore is on the right track but there's one sticky problem => a shepherd cannot shepherd a flock that doesn't want to follow a shepherd. Everyone has swallowed an anti-shepherd Freedom Pill. All of which means the voting populace can no longer stomach a male shepherd; therefore the political party wanting to win this next presidential Election has to field a female player.

      Does it really matter if that woman is named Bachmann, Palin or Clinton? No. JanforGore could run and win if the other three opt out. The sheep can't stomach more being preached down to by white caucasian men. THEY LOOK AND TALK TOO MUCH LIKE DICK CHENEY. CHENEY HAS SINGLE-HANDEDLY PAINTED BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES INTO A CORNER.

      If neither contender ~the President or Vice-President~ is a woman they're going down in a fiery blaze of smoke rolling off their heat-exploded rear wheels. And quite frankly I'm laughing myself all over the floor after realizing... that every White politician now looks like he's wearing a Richard Milhouse Nixon mask. And married to that grape face of a wife.

    • 9 months ago
  • IceKat
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    • http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/still-denying-climate-change-reality/story-e...

      "AS IF Al Gore's last apocalyptic PowerPoint presentation wasn't boring and deceptive enough, he had to go and do it all again - for a marathon 24 hours.

      A farrago of spurious connections, conspiracy theories and misrepresented facts as outlandish as any doomsday cult's, the former US vice-president's Climate Reality Project finally ended at 10am on Friday.
      ...
      It was hate speech posing as reasonableness and sound thinking. Gore essentially incites hatred against those who dissent from his evangelical thesis, which once looked so plausible. Ever since the overhyped 2009 Copenhagen climate summit flopped, opinion polls show the wheels have fallen off the climate alarm bandwagon.

      This is what happens to the boy who cries wolf. No one listens any more."

    • 9 months ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  

    • Once again, thank you Mr. Gore for all you have done and do. I know your heart is in this and I appreciate it greatly.

      And in pondering this event and the effect it will have, I do think there are are also other factors we need to discuss and consider. As long as the world runs on oil and pipelines are continued to be built in Afghanistan, here and globally (possibly even in the Arctic as drilling has been approved already) what will we succeed in doing and how long do we have? The facts of this are as such: both oil and water are now being seen as ‘commodities’ (even though water is a human right) whose sources are becoming scarcer in the world (water mainly from pollution, privitization, waste and climate change.) Countries are jockeying for geopolitical advantage in controlling as much of these resources as possible due to “peak oil” and now “peak water.” As with Iraq and as we are now seeing in Afghanistan (TAPI pipeline) and in Libya where the Great Manmade River Project (truly a feat of engineering even if you didn’t like Gaddafi) has now been blown up and its source shut off to the people in Tripoli as its oil is conviscated. Countries including Norway, Russia, Canada and the U.S. are already jockeying to suck the Arctic dry of its resources as it melts. Alberta has already stated that it needs TWO more pipelines the same size as the Keystone XL to get their oil out and they don’t care if this one is approved or not they WILL get that oil out and more than likely it will go to China, the so called country making so many strides in “clean energy.” We are addicted to oil and the money it makes. So please tell me just how we are going to counter this now to win anything for our children’s future?

      I think it is exemplary if you ( in general) are sincere in solving this to bring the facts of what we are doing by burning this to the people who need to know it. However, it is governments you need to reach now. I have been out here as a citizen for forty years of my life supporting the environment and protesting these geopolitical excursions that have taken many lives in the process. And yet, even under Obama this still goes on. So what is the plan should he approve the Keystone XL even after all that has been done to warn people of the dangers of its carbon timebomb? How many are truly willing to be arrested and put it all on the line for the future? How do we truly break this addiction to oil? We are not transitioning to renewable energy fast enough to beat the curve of climate change or peak oil and that is detrimental to the continuance of life as we know it. So it would be nice to see this conversation as well because it is a true reality along with the climate reality that needs discussing. We must break this addiction or it will break us.

    • 9 months ago
  • JanforGore
  • KurtLewin
  • Paratus
  • IceKat
  • Varex_Sythe
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      Varex_Sythe  
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    • IceKat:

      Wow, gee, I wonder how many people actually like the site vs how many people look at the "About" page and like that directly...

      Oh, 82K actually like the main page. That looks like someone is trying to manipulate information to the advantage of an agenda.

    • 9 months ago
  • IceKat
  • Varex_Sythe
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      Varex_Sythe  
    • IceKat:

      So first we have what I can only assume was a blatant attempt to falsely represent actual information in order to bolster your own point of view, and when that is exposed we have dismissal.

      What's next? Anger, bargaining, depression and finally acceptance?

    • 9 months ago
  • IceKat
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      IceKat  
    • Varex_Sythe:

      No, the information I presented was correct.
      So, are you seriously telling me 82K likes from a worldwide 24 hour 'show' is good? It's hilariously dismal, and that's being polite! The entire propaganda-fest was a failure!

      "What's next? Anger, bargaining, depression and finally acceptance?"
      Do grow up.

    • 9 months ago
  • Varex_Sythe
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      Varex_Sythe  
    • IceKat:

      The information would have been correct if you had presented it as the number of people who like the "About" page and not the people who liked the home page. When people see a website that they like or agree with, they usually like the first page that they see, and when this particular website is accessed, the first page that people see is not the "About" page, but the home page.

      You presented the "About" page and the number of likes on the "About" page as if it were the total number of likes for that entire website for the entire project. That is a misrepresentation of the actual numbers that you used to support your own point of view.

      Edit:
      Something else just occurred to me. 82K likes from around the world, I guess you are correct that those kind of numbers seem pretty weak when compared to the world population. So, what kind of advertising did we see for this event that was completely televised on Current TV? Seriously, I want to know because I don't actually watch television.

      I haven't seen any ads online anywhere for this event other than on current.com. Have there been a lot of ads for this event in news papers, on other television networks, on the radio?

      And by the way...
      "Do grow up."
      Be careful, that could be interpreted by some as a comment made in anger and annoyance. You might only have three steps left to go unless you regress.

    • 9 months ago
  • Varex_Sythe
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      Varex_Sythe  
    • Varex_Sythe:

      Aw, and now we have the anonymous down votes who are brave enough to let me know that they do not approve of what I am saying, but are to cowardly to let their internet handles be known, and/or are to stupid to actually form a decent reply (but are smart enough to know that they cannot).

    • 9 months ago
  • IceKat
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    • Could this have been any more of a massive (unprecedented even) flop?
      Surely the rate of decline in interest can only be described as catastrophic!

      More people on Facebook are interested in Glee than the Gore-Bore fest.

    • 9 months ago
  • KurtLewin
  • JanforGore
  • jackshin
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      jackshin  
    • KurtLewin:

      for sure, this cat, there is not a post jg puts up cat isn't there to abuse. The pest is always willing to post some obscure crap from a study done on the island of doctor moreau. But like a nat, it shifts position, when you try to nail he/she down to actually facts. I've woken up, it's just better to ignore them, and read the factual evidence jg's articles always presents.

    • 9 months ago
  • IceKat
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      IceKat  
    • jackshin:

      If you want facts in the form of real data take a look at many of my comments. Most of my comments contain data from recognised sources showing real-world evidence that disproves the theories and models that some hold so desperately to.
      JfG does provide factual evidence; evidence of a storm, a drought, a heatwave, a flood, but her downfall is the fact that she links them all to man's use of fossil fuels, conveniently forgetting the fact that there is so much evidence showing that similar weather events have all occurred in the past before man could possibly have been responsible.
      More is being learned about climate drivers, and the more that is learned, the more CO2 moves further away from being the culprit. But some of have known that for decades. Some will only move forward when their leaders allow them to.

    • 9 months ago
  • Varex_Sythe
  • jackshin
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      jackshin  

    • Jan thanks from keeping posts like this up, I know I would have forgotten otherwise. (not trying to dish you artemis, I promise :-)

    • 9 months ago
  • artemis6
  • artemis6
  • IceKat
  • JanforGore
  • ozzone
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      ozzone  

    • He was quite eloquent and his points were spot on. My wife and I watched and thought he was very good. To me it was as good if not better than "An Inconvenient Truth". Short of picking a person up and dropping them down INTO one of these areas I don’t know what else can be done to wake people up. I mean really. It can only be a willful, intentional, desire NOT to know.

    • 9 months ago
  • IceKat
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      IceKat  
    • ozzone:

      "It can only be a willful, intentional, desire NOT to know."

      And yet those who delve deeper into the science of meteorology and climate come to a different conclusion to the propaganda message Gore is profiting from.

    • 9 months ago
  • DBF_SS
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      DBF_SS  

    • He could have put together a much better powerpoint presentation if he would have stopped running from Lord Monckton. It's really hard to type when you are that out of breath.

    • 9 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  

    • Whew. I was getting the impression "our purpose on this planet" was hunting & foraging [for new exotic faraway planets]. Which nowadays includes watching satellites fall on buildings.

    • 9 months ago
  • JanforGore
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • JanforGore:

      Yep. Me too! Of course everybody thinks only a few planets are habitable but, if you design a floating level above the planets where the gravity is right for us ~and having a separate environment~ you can make a lot more habitable. We're a long ways off from doing that one. But when we do we could indeed live "on Jupiter" or "on Saturn".

      Surface gravity there would of course crush us.

    • 9 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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    • Gravity_Man:

      But if that time of living above other planets is to come ASAP all Earth's nations need to work AS ONE IN SPACE. Competition is good for on a planet but when it comes to making your best effort count out in Space they all need to work TOGETHER.

      In Outer Space everybody is too busy fighting Minus 250+ degree Cold. Out there the temperature is everyone's enemy, no need for us to be our enemies also!

    • 9 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  

    • I watched it...recorded it and will be watching it again this weekend!

      I LOVED how Mr. Gore "jabbed" the Rethuglicans, i.e., the Orangeman by using their words against them!

      Why are there people that fail to understand what any sane, thinking person who saw that would be in TOTAL agreement with?

      It boggles the mind!

      It's the ONLY "spacesuit" we have!

      I sometimes wonder if the same people that deny Man is polluting the air, soil AND potable water live in filth at home? You've seen those shows of hoarders, either of stuff or worse, animals!

      It only goes to show people can get used to living amongst trash and refuse!

    • 9 months ago
  • JanforGore
  • Warren_Merrill
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Warren_Merrill:

      Same BS as always. Thanks again for making my point about trashing him instead of focusing on the crisis. But then you don't have to take responsibility for anything because you don't have any effect on this planet anyway.

    • 9 months ago
  • Warren_Merrill
  • JanforGore
  • IceKat
  • artemis6
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • artemis6:

      Explains it well. Oh, but don't you know? Explaining the Earth's processes and what we are doing to them is "extremist." I really do wonder how much some of these buffoons are paid to come on all of these threads to try to bait people into fights. It's utter Bs .

    • 9 months ago
  • IceKat
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    • JanforGore:

      Same old trash, accusing people of being paid to write comments that disagree with your views.
      What is extremist is blaming almost any weather event on man-made CO2.
      That theory bit the dust years ago but is held onto by the extremist few who have a political or ideological agenda, or by those who worship Al Gore and will only hold views that he sanctions. So much for individuality, free-thinking and keeping up with the science!
      And as for the science, is there any reason why you haven't posted any data about Arctic ice melt recently? You're ever so quick to re-post one of Romm's rantings about Arctic death-spirals, yet you never seem to mention a sharp re-freeze when it happens, even if it happens to be a rather severe and early increase in ice area. Still, cherry-picking is your way, we all understand that.

    • 9 months ago
  • ozzone
  • KurtLewin
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    • it was an amazing event...
      here is something worth Washington funding..

      Indigenous peoples speak on climate change

      WASHINGTON, Sept. 13 (UPI) -- Personal interviews with indigenous Alaskans are providing unique insights on climate change and its impacts on local communities, U.S. researchers say.

      The U.S. Geological Survey conducted interviews with Yup'ik hunters and elders in the villages of St. Mary's and Pitka's Point in Alaska's Yukon River Basin to gather their observations of climate change.

      "Many climate change studies are conducted on a large scale, and there is a great deal of uncertainty regarding how climate change will impact specific regions," USGS social scientist Nicole Herman-Mercer said in a release Tuesday. "This study helps address that uncertainty and really understand climate change as a socioeconomic issue by talking directly to those with traditional and personal environmental knowledge."

      Read more: http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2011/09/13/Indigenous-peoples-speak-on-climate-c...

      http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2011/09/13/Indigenous-peoples-speak-on-climate-c...

    • 9 months ago
  • KurtLewin
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      KurtLewin  
    • KurtLewin:

      OMG!!! I just tweeted this to Bianca Jagger and she actually replied!!! Al Gore is right when he said we have yet to tap the full potential of the web technology. His amazing 24 hours of Reality helped connect millions...now what do we do with the potential synergy? Lead AL!!!!

      I would get a skills inventory of this army!!!!!!!

    • 9 months ago
  • JanforGore
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    • KurtLewin:

      I'm going to make a video of my own climate presentation (including peak oil as well) and spread it to as many places as I can. I'm going to write my local papers and my senators and not relent. And I will work to vote out ANY representative that denies this. I think we have to be our own army as well as joining others.

    • 9 months ago
  • JanforGore
  • IceKat
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      IceKat  
    • JanforGore:

      "I'm going to make a video of my own climate presentation and spread it to as many places as I can."

      Climate spam!!!
      It's getting so tedious, no wonder so many genuine environmentalists are turning away from the extreme views proffered by those looking for some sort of recognition.
      It's sad to watch, really.

    • 9 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • IceKat:

      Al Gore is a Renaissance Man who intends to win otherwise he wouldn't be amassing a fortune to hire the mercenaries he needs to win, now would he? You need to collate better Kat.

      Gore is preparing to launch his own Pearl Harbor-level attack with Green technologies you know nothing about. He's the Postman. He's also a Lorne Greene commanding the ships in search of Planet Earth, replete with Starbuck and a squandron of women piliots who love pressing the Fire button til it breaks off.

      Building a Battlestar formation takes time. Like John Robey the Cat, he prepares to spring and steal all your jewels; and there's not a thing you can do to stop it from happening.

      Beware prey. You can laugh at the graphics used now but, they're just part of the plan to disarm his opponents, like you for instance.

    • 9 months ago
  • JanforGore
  • IceKat
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      IceKat  
    • JanforGore:

      "...the usual bitter suspects are now trashing the man in their reviews of this rather than focusing on the crisis."

      Because there isn't a crisis and the man deserves all the contempt he gets thrown his way.

    • 9 months ago
  • KurtLewin
  • JanforGore
  • IceKat
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • KurtLewin:

      I did, I did, which was why I posted so late for, to get you (above post) with Gore being a "Renaissance Man" like being a modern Battlestar Gallactica Commander like Lorne Greene. I doubt I'll do it again, but it was fun. Gore the Greene~ster, better than Frank Gorshin the Jokester.

      And they all beat President Dunzle oops, Obama.

    • 9 months ago
  • JanforGore
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