Will faster-than-light particles bypass Einstein?

i have said it all along. everything is possible. its going to be a fun ride!

Oooh this is cool. But I think I'll wait until more substantiated research comes out before my head is allowed to explode.

If it's true, it would be the most ground-breaking discovery in physics in a century.

But since it's six freaking nanoseconds, I'm gonna wait for something a little more substantial to overturn what we understood to be a fundamental law of the universe.

Is there enough money to find the answer while solving the world's hunger crisis simultaniously ?

It better for progression's sake.

60 nanoseconds sound a little unbeleivable. Granted, the LEC/CERN is pretty unbeleivable.

Seriously, 60*10^-9 ( 60 billionths of a second or .00000006) seconds worth of difference as a paticle travels 500 miles. I'd like to see the stopwatch used to take this measurement. It seems unbeleivable that they could measure with that accurracy, and I won't beleive it until it is confirmed with soemthing different.

Damn neutrinos, who do they think they are breaking the law and raising all kinds of hell? lol

This may be the smoking gun that proves our universe is a hologram, as many have recently speculated. The universe exists in four dimensions as does a hologram. But in a hologram any portion reprises the whole of it. If a hologram is cut into pieces, each piece projects the entire image as each piece contains all the information that is contained in the whole and in each piece as well. Cut a flat holograph into two pieces and all the information on the one can be found on the second piece. The 'information' will have appeared to an observer to have exceeded light speed. A professor demonstrating a fourth dimension to undergraduates placed an object on his desk and then replaced it with another object thus demonstrating that two volumes can occupy the same space at different times, proving that 'time' is a fourth dimension. But ---in a fourth dimensional hologram, all objects occupy all 'spaces' at the same time. That could be interpreted as a violation of Einstein ---but that may be premature.

"Particles don't jump through wormholes; quantum jumps are an illusion created when a particle accelerates above detectability (i.e. light speed) by drawing energy from another particle already above light speed. When the drawn clone drops into detectability below light speed, the perceived effect is identical to a single identified particle that disappears in one place and reappears instantaneously in another." --The Universal Hologram http://users.rcn.com/zap.dnai/hyprholo.txt

See also http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/23/science-light-idUSL5E7KN33E20110923

"Faster than light" particles may be physics revolution

GENEVA, Sept 23 | Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:22am EDT

(Reuters) - Leading scientists said on Friday the discovery of sub-atomic particles apparently traveling faster than light could force a major rethink of theories on the makeup of the cosmos if independently confirmed.

Jeff Forshaw, a professor of particle physics at Britain's Manchester University, told Reuters the results if confirmed would mean it would be possible in theory to "send information into the past". "In other words, time travel into the past would become possible...(though) that does not mean we'll be building time-machines anytime soon."

The CERN research institute near Geneva said measurements over three years had shown neutrinos pumped to a receiver in Gran Sasso, Italy, had arrived an average of 60 nanoseconds sooner than light would have done -- a tiny difference that could nonetheless undermine Albert Einstein's 1905 special theory of relativity

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and this is an extraordinary claim," eminent cosmologist and astrophysicist Martin Rees told Reuters.

"It is premature to comment on this," Professor Stephen Hawking, the world's most well-known physicist, told Reuters. "Further experiments and clarifications are needed."

Professor Jenny Thomas, who works on neutrinos at CERN's friendly rival Fermilab near Chicago in the United States, commented: "The impact of this measurement, were it to be correct, would be huge."

CERN's own research director Sergio Bertolucci said if the findings were confirmed -- and at least two separate laboratories are likely to start work on this in the near future -- "it might change our view of physics".

The high level of caution is normal in science where anything that could be a breakthrough discovery, especially overturning well-established thinking, is in principle always checked and rechecked by other researchers.

In a comment issued by CERN, the world's leading laboratory for particle research on the edge of Geneva, Bertolucci underscored this principle.

"When an experiment finds an apparently unbelievable result and can find no artefact of the measurement to account for it, it is normal to invite broader scrutiny....it is good scientific practice," he said.

The measurements were posted on the scientific website arxiv.org/abs/1109.4897 overnight.

The discovery would open up intriguing theoretical possibilities.

"Light speed is a cosmic speed limit and it exists in order to protect the law of cause and effect," said Professor Forshaw.

"If something travels faster than the cosmic speed limit, then it becomes possible to send information into the past - in other words, time travel into the past would become possible. That does not mean we'll be building time-machines anytime soon though - there is quite a gulf between a time-travelling neutrino to a time-travelling human."

GHOST PARTICLES

The CERN team, working in an experiment dubbed OPERA, pumped neutrinos -- often called ghost particles because they pass through matter, and human bodies, unnoticed -- from CERN 730 kms (500 miles) to Gran Sasso south of Rome.

Over three years, and from 15,000 neutrino "events", a huge detector at the Italian centre deep under mountain rock recorded what OPERA spokesman Antonio Ereditato described as the "startling" findings.

He said his team had high confidence they had measured correctly and excluded any possibility of some outside influence, or artefact, affecting the outcome.

"My dream is now that other colleagues find we are right," he added.

In Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity, which underpins the current view of how the universe works, nothing can travel faster than light -- 300,000 kms, or 186,000 miles, per second -- because its mass would become impossibly infinite.

Einstein's theory has been tested thousands of times over the past 106 years and only recently have there been just slight hints that the behaviour of some elementary particles of matter might not fit into it.

These hints were detected last year in Fermilab's MINOS experiment with neutrinos, but -- unlike those of OPERA -- were found to be within a normal margin of error.

Fermilab's Thomas, who is likely to be involved in MINOS experiments to check the CERN-Gran Sasso measurements, said if they were correct "it would overturn everything we thought we understood about relativity and the speed of light."

Ereditato, a physicist who also works at the Einstein Institute in the University of Berne, said the potential impact on science "is too large to draw any immediate conclusions or attempt physics interpretations."

SURPRISING WITH MYSTERIES

Also declining to claim a genuine scientific discovery before other researchers had confirmed them, he said the neutrino, whose existence was first confirmed in 1934, "is still surprising us with its mysteries."

Scientific bloggers on the Internet said the particle might be slipping into and out of dimensions, other than the known four of length, breadth, depth and time, as predicted by the controversial "string theory" of how the cosmos works.

"Only when the dust finally settles should we dare draw any firm conclusions," said Professor Forshaw. "It is in the nature of science that for every new and important discovery there will be hundreds of false alarms."