Climate communication:The science has never been more compelling, the public never so misled

"By 2020 we will see the melting tundra release methane gas which will lead to disaster. Throughout the course of history we were always around 280 parts per million CO2 levels. This is now an undeniable fact. In 1980, we were at 328 parts per million. We are now at 393 parts per million. We must get down to 350 parts per million. Analogy: If you drain a bathtub at the same rate as you fill it, you are OK. But instead, we have and extra straw sized hose that is adding to the bathtub water. Over 100 years, you can see how the bathtub will overflow. There has been a 3 degree centigrade rise in temperature. There is a double digit rise in Alaska. This is a HUGE change, we are desperate and out of time. Everything will peak in 2020."
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That is a scenario I can actually see based on the rate of Co2 emissions and the fact that it appears the global community is not going to do anything near adequate to counterbalance this. At the rate we are going now I can see action becoming less effective because we waited too long. This is why sustainable agriculture in developing countries and in industrialized countries at a certain percentage to start is so crucial. We don't have time to invent big technological gizmos costing us billions more that only make others rich without knowing for sure they will counter this. I too after reading these reports and watching this unfold know that once you go over 400 ppm you are beyond the danger zone in regards to being able to live in that human comfort zone. The sad thing about all of this is that it is preventable if people have the education, information and tools they need to counter this. We have to face that what we have put there over the last century is already having an effect. The point is to lessen that effect for the future to the point that it will not become catastrophic. However, when you have people out here either by design or paycheck telling people that Co2 doesn't even trap heat so there isn't anything to worry about, there is something to worry about.

So in short we today are being slammed by a CO2 hammer that was thrown 1 1/2 decades ago? So if we went Full Reverse right now we continue taking the greenhouse effect beating for another 15 years at 393 ppm?

Thanks Jan. Very informative of you.

Should people put in much Real-Time Worry about a problem that's set in stone to happen for another 10-12-15 years no matter what they do today?

People should always be mindful of the planet and the condition of their surroundings, we know that, that's simply being an aware being, yet at the same time being 10-15 years "behind the eight ball" would call for running the ball 15 YEARS to cross the Goal Line.

Americans are not healthy enough to do a 15-year run. In 1980 perhaps they were that healthy. They take too many anti-depressant pills. Anti-depressants cause all blood vessels in the body walls to grow thicker, causing heart disease. Americans have been shoving down these pills since 1980. The destruction to their circulatory system -including brain vessels- has been complete.

I took one for 12 years and it almost finished me. Caused my brain to shrink in size, brought me into circulatory issues arterio AND athero, gout, even attacks of both dementia and pre-Alzheimer's. Nutrition products are the ticket Jan. The body cells die off every 7 years, so if you take more nutrition for 7 years you will begin re-defining your body out of all those problems.

It is however a very tough row to hoe. Sometimes you have relapses and recurrences and cry out to die. That's what the "American diet" does for people. That is why right now the entire world is in the grips of a Diabetes Pandemic. Dr. Bob Martin has a weekly radio show and he stated worldwide one person flakes off from Diabetes EVERY 7 SECONDS.

When people cannot afford good food they choose low-nutrient foods. Jan, the human species is dying.

Answer: the previous 11-year solar increase did it.

Solar Spike set off Evaporation Spike set off Methane Release Spike set off Climate Pendulum Spike.

We don't live in the distant Past. The recent Past is quite sufficent to explain the Present experience.

"I too after reading these reports and watching this unfold know that once you go over 400 ppm you are beyond the danger zone in regards to being able to live in that human comfort zone. "

400ppm is nowhere near the limit of human tolerance or comfort, far from it, in fact CO2 concentrations in your house right now are much above this level.

"The thickness of the atmosphere compared with the size of the Earth, is in about the same ratio as the thickness of a coat of shellac on a schoolroom globe is to the diameter of the globe. That's the air that nurtures us and almost all other life on Earth, that protects us from deadly ultraviolet light from the sun, that through the greenhouse effect brings the surface temperature above the freezing point. (Without the greenhouse effect, the entire Earth would plunge below the freezing point of water and we'd all be dead.) Now that atmosphere, so thin and fragile, is under assault by our technology. We are pumping all kinds of stuff into it. You know about the concern that chlorofluorocarbons are depleting the ozone layer; and that carbon dioxide and methane and other greenhouse gases are producing global warming, a steady trend amidst fluctuations produced by volcanic eruptions and other sources. Who knows what other challenges we are posing to this vulnerable layer of air that we haven't been wise enough to foresee?" Carl Sagan

That says it all. And the person who voted you down obviously knows nothing about science.

Thanks Jan. Carl Sagan was truly a great man.

He most certainly was.

Without an atmosphere the temperature would plunge below freezing at night but be blisteringly hot during the day.
Our moon experiences temperatures between 123°C and -233°C. Earth's albedo is different and therefore temperatures would not follow exactly those of the moon, but the difference wouldn't be massive.
The atmosphere is not a nice blanket that keeps us warm, it also keeps us cool! The atmosphere regulates the temperature on earth. CO2 plays a part in regulating the temperature by absorbing energy at a specific (very narrow, and already mostly covered by water vapour) wavelength, but it does not just re-direct that energy back to the surface, the energy is scattered in all directions. What's more, the energy re-radiated does not add to the surface temperature, it just slows cooling, just like other atmospheric gases.
Doubling CO2 concentrations would increase atmospheric pressure by around 0.00015 atm and therefore raise surface temperatures by maybe 0.01°C, and that is only if other factors don't come into play. Feedbacks are, to date, seen to be negative; the planet has its own way of regulating itself.
Y'see, the atmosphere really isn't anything to be scared of.

Great find! I like it. Voted up!

Thank you for posting this.

Your welcome jan and ozzone. I've been studying cleantech extensively for quite some time, as it was part of an investing process for me. But that site pretty much introduces one to everything they'll ever need, as it brings all the sites to one place.

Yes I read this article the other day. It is excellent. Thanks for posting the link to it.