Tech | October 11, 2011 | 99 comments

Russian Leader Tells Top Generals, “Prepare For Armageddon”

source: http://margotbworldnews.com/News/Oct/Oct9/Armageddon.html

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by TheTotalCollapse.com on October 9, 2011

A grim Federal Security Services (FSB) report on Prime Minister Putin’s plan to meet China’s leader Hu Jintao [both pictured top photo left] in Beijing next week warns that both Russian and Chinese military forces are being placed on their ‘highest alert’ in anticipation of a massive land invasion believed being planned by the United States of both the Middle East and Central Asia.

The plans for this “Total Global War” the Americans are preparing to launch were first revealed to China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS) by the former Blackwater mercenary Bryan Underwood who is currently being held by US authorities for spying and which we reported on in our 4 October report titled “China Warns Russia Of Coming American “Great Event.”

Within hours of Putin’s reading of the coming US plans for Total Global War, this report says, he wrote a rare article in the Izvestia daily outlining a grand project to integrate post-Soviet states into closer cooperation, scheduled an emergency trip to China to meet with Hu, and ordered the FSB to notify China’s MSS of the arrest and detention of their spy Tun Sheniyun who was captured last year for attempting to steal sensitive information on Russia’s most powerful anti-aircraft system.

As we had detailed in our previously mentioned report, the “New Great Game” moves being planned by the Americans that is striking fear into both Russia and China includes:

1.) The deliberate implosion of both the US and EU economies in order to destroy the Global Financial System that has been in place since the ending of World War II

2.) The launching of a massive conventional war by the US and EU on the North American, African and Asian Continents to include the Middle East

3.) During this all-out war the deliberate releasing of bio-warfare agents meant to kill off millions, if not billions, of innocent civilians

4.) At the height of this war the US and its allies will sue for peace and call for a new global order to be established in order to prevent the total destruction of our planet.

This past week an unidentified source within the US Department of Defense (DOD) further warned that the Obama regime was preparing for a massive“tank-on-tank” war and that US military forces are “expecting something conventional, and big, coming down the pipe relatively soon.”

To how close this war may be the FSB in their report states that it will be “much sooner than later” as the Americans have pre-positioned in Iraq nearly 2,000 of their M1 Abrams main battle tanks, have pre-positioned another 2,000 of them in Afghanistan, and between the Middle East and Asia have, likewise, put into these war theaters tens-of-thousands of other typed armored vehicles.

The “final piece” for the activation of this massive armored force, standing poised like a dagger at the heart of both Asia and the Middle East, the FSB says, is the call for a “Full Mobilization” of over 1.5 million American reserve forces which can occur at “at a moments notice” as the US is currently at war and needs no further authorization from its Congress to expand their areas of operation.

Important to note about the American plan for global domination through massive warfare is that it is not really a secret, and as (curiously) revealed on the tenth anniversary of the 11 September attacks upon the United States when the US National Security Archive released a memo written by former US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in September 2001wherein he warned “If the war does not significantly change the world’s political map, the US will not achieve its aim.”

To what the “aim” of the United States is as their war against the world has now entered its 10th year, the FSB says, is to prevent “at all costs” the implosion of the US Dollar as the main reserve currency of the present global economic system before the West’s envisioned “New World Order” can be established.

The first threat to the Americans “master plan” for global hegemony came in November 2000 when the former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein quit accepting US Dollars for oil and, instead, stated his country would only accept Euros. In less than 10 months the US was attacked and used that as an excuse to topple Hussein and reestablish the US Dollar as the world’s main reserve currency.

Interesting to note is the failure of Libya’s former leader Gaddafi’s plan to introduce the gold dinar, a single African currency that would serve as an alternative to the US Dollar and allow African nations to share the wealth, but which like Iraq’s Hussein “plan” brought a swift and brutal invasion by the Americans and their Western allies to keep it from happening.

The only nation that has successfully abandoned the US Dollar is Iran, who since February 2009 abandoned all American currency opting instead to value their oil and gas in Euros. Iran, however, and unlike oil rich Iraq and Libya, has not been attacked due to the Iranians having acquired from Ukraine between 6-10 nuclear armed X-55 missiles (range of 3,000km [2,000 miles]) in 2005. [Note: Former UkrainePresident Viktor Yushchenko stated that the missiles sold to Iran did not contain their nuclear tips, a statement disputed by the FSB who states they were armed and “ready to fire.”]

This FSB report further states that both Putin and Hu were “enraged” by the deception of the West in regards to Libya, who after being given “absolute assurances” by the Obama regime that they weren’t planning an invasion, broke their word and did it anyway.

Russian and China, in turn, stopped the West’s plan for another war this week by their vetoing the US-backed plan in the United Nations Security Council to turn Syria into another Libya. So angry did the Americans become that their furious UN envoy Susan Rice stormed out of the meeting after the West didn’t get what it wanted.

Even worse for the West’s war plan against Syria was its President warning this week that if his nation was attacked by NATO he would cause to be fired hundreds of missiles into Israel’s most populated city of Tel Aviv within six hours, which would, of course, bring about a catastrophic nuclear response.

And in a peremptory move to counter the planned American blitzkrieg into Central Asia and Pakistan from Afghanistan, Indian Army Chief General VK Singh warned yesterday that thousands of Chinese military forces have now moved into Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir joining an estimated 11,000 more of them believed to have entered that region in the past year.

To the coming deliberate implosion by the US of the global economy, the FSB further says in their report, it now appears “certain” after a new report emerged this past from Philippa Malmgren, a former economics adviser to President George W. Bush, stating that Germany was preparing to abandon the Euro and has ordered the printing of Deutsche Marks to replace it.

Most frightening of everything in this FSB report, however, is the reply Putin gave to Russia’s top generals yesterday when asked what preparations should be made and he answered…. “Prepare for Armageddon.”
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  • remanns
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  

    • Well, well, well.

      Here we have the U.S. accusing Iran of a terrorist plot to kill the Saudi ambassador. And Mrs. Clinton saying that this agressive action cannot go UNPUNISHED!

      I hear John McaCain singing, "Bomb, bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb Iran!"

      We're off to war against Iran sooner than later!

      Hey, we ALREADY have troops in the "area". The MIC war machine is gearing up to do some REAL hiring...to make war thingies.

      Here we go!

    • 8 months ago
  • squarethecircle
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      squarethecircle  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      this is just another misdirection as well as a justification for war in Iran. They've been setting the table for this for quite awhile. I don't really think a mexican drug gang gives a crap about 1.5 million dollars for the trouble they'd inherit. If Wachovia can launder 380 billion dollars for, probably the same cartel,1.5 million is simply burnable....the whole thing is BS and I am sure will be swallowed hook, line and sinker by the same people that don't want to read between the lines of this story due to it's "ambiguous" source.

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • squarethecircle:

      I could, most likely, write a thesis consisting of one and one half million words explaining what I think about this subject!

      However, I'll save the wear and tear on my keyboard that has already seen abuses on my part and will give it a rest and just answer your comment posted with a resounding, "Amen"!

      I should entertain the concept of being more brief in my answers or comments posited.

      I have a feeling most people are turned away from a comment that consists of one hundred words or more!

      But it's difficult for me to reduce my feelings about certain subject matters I take seriously in a few sentences or paragraphs.

      And with this medium, I have not run out of "internet ink" NOR "intertubes paper" YET!

      LMAO!

    • 8 months ago
  • jubal
  • wally60
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      wally60  

    • the only part that is true is protecting the dollor the us will do anything to protect it.it is possible and probable they will start another war this is what the top 1%
      would like.and watch out for the god freaks they also will do anything .with any luck mother earth will put an end to this insanity herself

    • 8 months ago
  • CalPal
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      CalPal  

    • I dismissed this story the moment I read it's title, and very little changed when I read even more. There is so much BS laced in this article, it makes me cringe at the thought that this is actually taken seriously by people.

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • CalPal:

      Yeah...it's SO ridiculous!

      But....maybe....perhaps.....perchance......there could be a subterfuge agenda behind wild scenarios like the one above?

      Could reality be imitating fantasy? Or the other way around?

      "Oh, look! A shiney thang!". - While a VERY REAL "shiney thing" is being used to gain control of the world economies and populations?

      It's hard to not have thoughts of some sort of conspiracy that's transpiring throughout the world!

      I remember the mid 1960s when there was rioting occurring all around this planet over racial tensions, economic depression and political upheavals!

      Turn to your history books....goggle it....go to YouTube and WATCH those times of strife that was EXPLODING out from every corner of this planet!

      The difference between then and now?

      We're IMPLODING!!!

    • 8 months ago
  • CalPal
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      CalPal  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      The thing about conspiracy theories, as my poli-sci prof best put it, is that they're designed for the semi-intelligent: people who have some idea of what's going on, but not enough that they can be seriously considered in the intellectual community.

      First off, let me address two points:

      "The deliberate implosion of the US and EU economies"? Get real; the US or the EU would NEVER willingly sabotage their own economies if it threatened their ability to maintain sovereignty over their land. I don't doubt for a second that corporations are responsible for the implosion of our economies, but a state would never willingly seek to destroy their own economy for illogical reasons like this, nor would they permit this kind of thing to continue on for much longer. If states lose their sovereignty, they will cease to exist, and you can damn well bet that states won't let it happen.

      Also, war in today's international system isn't acceptable. After WWII, there have been very few wars that have been fought between states, in comparison to what it was like before. That's because states realize that war-craft isn't acceptable behaviour in the international system, and the Cold War especially made state actors realize that 'Hey, we could potentially destroy the world and the human race if we all act like stupid, angry war-fucks with the technology that we have! How about we don't do that?' Remember the international outrage when the US invaded Iraq for essentially no legitimate reason? For the most part, states realize that war is detrimental in this system, especially when co-operation with each other is a much more suitable alternative than trying to kill each other. Many more benefits, much less costs.

      Now, in regards to what the article is saying about Syria, it seems pretty clear to me that China, Russia, the US and the EU all agree that the current Syrian regime is illegitimate. No one seems to be disagreeing with that idea. What I'm reading feels more like a challenge of US hegemony, and what China and Russia are making clear with the UN veto is that this isn't the US's world anymore: eventually, the US will lose its hegemonic status, and it will be forced to co-operate with other growing powers that want their voice, such as China, India, Brazil, etc. They will also have to start seriously respecting the other members of the UN, and that you can't simply invade a nation based on your principles. The Obama administration is not insane enough to start a war over that, but I would be a little concerned with some other Presidential-wannabes...

      In a way, this whole article feels like something the MIC would post to say 'Hey, Obama, the world's about to go to shit. We could use a little more money to keep the US safe from everyone that is our enemies, which is to say, everyone'. Just a load of conspiracy BS for those who don't study politics and truly understand how the international system behaves.

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
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    • CalPal:

      I totally agree that it would be suicidal for a "Super Power" country to go to war with another "Super Power". But just because it hasn't happened before...or yet... doesn't mean it's impossible. What has been going on with these countries that are no REAL threat to any "Super Power" will not suck any other "Super Power" into a conflict, right?

      Think about The Democratic People's Republic of Korea. If we were to attack them, then, yes, I do believe that Communist China would draw a line in the sand and, perhaps not attack the continental U.S., but they WOULD do serious damage to our "interests" in more than one of our "territories"...or take out an aircraft carrier or three to show us that they will not condone our behavior! I would think Guam would be their FIRST target! Hawaii would be their SECOND effort to impress upon us that they WOULD go to extremes to protect their "corner" of the world!

      And...then...if we didn't learn our "place" in the global pecking order? We'll all be scavenging for tidbits to survive after the last warhead landed on either side of the ocean.

      Japan has nothing to bring to the fight if there were to be a WWIII. What we call South Korea would capitulate to their Northern "brothers" rather than face annihilation. That would be my guess...they would choose living over dying if push came to shove. Ditto for Taiwan.

      Now, all that leaves is Europe and Russia, including all the former sattelite states of the old U.S.S.R.! Europeans will shock the Hell out of us when they decide to "sit this one out". Russia will stand by the sidelines and promise that whoever attacks them will pay a heavy price for their "transgression" against Putin. I say Putin because he'll be the Supreme Leader over the Russians eventually and since there will be NO ONE to question his authority, he'll become the New Global Leader that will show how it's to be done...that is, being "cool" and not let anything ruffle his feathers. He'll make a pact with the European Nations and will lend his "support and protection" from the war between China and the U.S.!

      And just like Hitler, in a way, he'll renege on all his promises and invade Europe without a shot fired. AFTER us and the Chinese are done with killing each other.

      The rest of the world will not be a threat to anyone since they don't have doodly squat as far as a military to be a threat to anyone but themselves, which could happen. Then, my guess is Brazil will be the "Russia" to the rest of the Central and South American countries.

      India will see things unfold and actually feel a level of relief because China will no longer be a threat to them! India will mind their "Ps & Qs" and since they don't have any real resources to speak of except human bodies in massive amounts, no one will pay them any mind at all!

      Africa is a joke. Nothing and No One there to worry about!

      But....Saudi Arabia will have the most to lose. For without us, the U.S. protecting them? They will either be torn apart by Iran OR Russia!

      And you thought I forgot ALL ABOUT ISREAL, didn't you?

      Well...they will be attacked AND taken out within the first hours of the upheaval after the world goes insane! Some wild and crazy MFers dedicated to take them out with several nuclear devices that have been "on the shelf" so to speak and are just waiting for the day to use them against those "Zionist Infidels"! And there will not be one tear shed for all the Palestinians that will be INSTANTLY vaporized with the Irealis! They will be a "calculated casualty count" that will be honored as martyrs after the fact!

      Hey! No more Jews! that will be justified in and of itself! A very, very small price to pay for ridding the world of the Jewish "disease", as they will see it. But no one will be asking the Palestinians if it's ok for that to happen, though!

      Now, I will pity the Canadians and Mexicans because of their close proximity to us, so the "fallout" they will suffer for will be through no fault of their own except being our neighbors, eh? Australia comes to my mind when I think of a powerful military that could come riding into the fray to help fight off the "barbarians", right? I don't think so. Our Southern Cross "friends" will be too far away to lend any real help at all. Besides, they're a little too close for comfort to China.

      Why would I speak such UNSPEAKABLE things? How could I even think such thoughts?

      Because there will be some THING that will cause a Coup d'Etat.. a presidential administration or congressional decision will precipitate a cabal of an elitist "group" that will take control of the Military led by several high ranking officials whose reasons will be that they will have lost all their "faith" in elected officials and feel it will be COMPLETELY necessary to do so! For the PROTECTION of the country, of course!

      And...we...the people? Well, think about it. Without the ability to turn on a T.V. to see what's happening - since all T.V.s are digital now - it's very easy to "pull the plug" on that medium, along with Twitter and anything "internet". We''ll all be in the dark, so to speak, waiting for the "word" to come down informing us all to stay in our homes...do not venture out for fear of some kind of "radiation sickness" that could befall anyone who does not obey! Plus the fact that anyone caught outside will be shot on sight! That should keep looting and the curious at bay for a while.

      Big Brother knows who we are, what our personal information is, how much of a "threat" we might pose to the "New Government" and who has what kinds of weapons and how many. Voting records will be used to search out those they feel will be conducive to this "new regime". Loyalty oaths will be given and those who do not agree to this "New Government" will be rounded up and taken to holding sites for their "own protection".

      And how can ALMOST all of us be "controlled"? Food. For without food to eat, how many days can YOU hold out and not have to turn to the "new authority" to survive? One week and 90% of the popluation will be in dire straits.

      And IF people DO NOT HAVE FAITH in their "Leader"? Who would stand up to take the lead against an overthrow of the government? NO ONE! And if someone did try, they wouldn't be around for long. How would they relay their "orders" to take back the country if all forms of communication were cut off? Smoke signals? Think about it. If Mr. Obama were to be the "fall guy" for this scenario to come to fruition, would YOU answer his "Call To Arms"? How about Mitt Romney? For one, we know that a Mormon would NOT pick up a weapon to fight. It could be Mitt that will be the "Chosen One" for this to occur. That's what might happen.

      "To believe that God will allow our political leaders to atone for our sins while we walk away with our souls intact is foolish idolatry. An act so egregious as the taking of a human life cannot be transferred onto another person and simply wished away.

      Attempts by some members to justify the current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan fly in the face of official church pronouncements:

      “The church is and must be against war, for war is of Satan and this church is the church of Christ...” (Messages of the First Presidency of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Vol 6, pg 170.)

      Nowhere can one find support for the claim that God takes less seriously a killing committed in battle than at some more idyllic time and place. Does the massive scale of bloodshed on the battlefield make it less heinous than a premeditated murder back home? The church’s position is clear that God makes no qualifying distinction that killing in wartime is somehow excusable.

      “The divine law on the taking of human life... embraces war.” (Statements of the LDS First Presidency, pg 481.)" - http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/2009/11/should-mormon-join-military.html

      "Food for thought", isn't it?

    • 8 months ago
  • CalPal
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      CalPal  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      First off, we're assuming that the US government have some rational interest to attack North Korea and provoke this war. In all honesty, because of how crap their economy is thanks to their leadership, N. Korea hardly has anything worth fighting them for in the first place. There is also very little to no public support for more wars, and if you think the President or congress will go to war without the consent of the majority of its population, you're nuts. Secondly, China has no real interest in protecting N. Korea, other than maybe to keep all of Korea from becoming a US ally. In a way, because of Kim's radically unpredictable behaviour, if it meant being dragged into a war with the US, I think China's simply going to turn a blind eye to N. Korea rather than uphold their allegiance and risk going against a superpower that still has a lot of hard power to resort to. Besides, the truth is that N. Korea ultimately is a very un-threatening nation. They may invest a lot in their military and make scary promises, but it's not a very advanced military; they wouldn't last a week against any other well-organized nation with modern technology.

      As well, Russia isn't as big and scary as modern media would like to depict them. They aren't the Soviets of the Cold War; if anything, Russia and China are more likely to have issues than Russia and the EU, and even then, I don't think either side really wants to escalate to war. As I've said before, war is very costly, and co-operation has much better benefits than whatever winning a war can provide.

      I'm not entirely familiar with the Indian region, but it's safe to say that India also has an important say in international politics. They have the second-highest population in the world, and they're doing pretty well, both in economy and modernization, based on a quick glance from google news (I'll admit that). You can bet that, when they speak, people will listen and take them seriously.

      Saudi Arabia likely has a large, well-financed army to protect all that Oil - probably how they are financed - and attacking them would be foolish; just look at what happened to nations attacking Afghanistan, their economies hit the shitter when they invaded, and there's hardly an army to fight there. What do you think, fighting Saudi Arabia will somehow be just as easy? It'll be 10x worse to fight Saudi Arabia or Iran, since they have a pretty well-organized army. Nothing compared to the US or upcoming superpowers, for sure, but you'd be a fool to attack them, nonetheless. As for Iran attacking Saudi Arabia... I guestimate that it'll end bad for Iran.

      However, we'll have to wait and see how the Arab Springs proceed before we even consider what any reaction from the Middle Eastern states will be.

      Remember the MAD policy of the Cold War? That didn't stop being a thing you can dismiss; you can be as radical as you want, but you have to consider that, if you launch a nuke on a civilian population, you will potentially wipe out all of humanity with all the other nukes people will be launching, if not the international outrage that will follow. No-one wins, and either we lose an entire section of our world, or life is ruined for the next millions of years, with no possible trace of our existence. Either outcome is detrimental for humanity, and no one wants to be remembered in the last seconds of their lives as the reason why humanity is doomed.

      Look, this fear-mongering conspiracy likely isn't going to come true. We had a much better chance of the world as we know it ending during the Cold War than we do now. At the end of the day, even considering how people think and behave, everyone agrees that wars are costly. Nobody profited when Germany was finally conquered in WWII, Europe was devastated, and when the US and Russia competed against each other with nuclear weapons, it made it very clear that one bad day could end the world. Those two wars fundamentally changed the way states interact with one another, whether you think so or not. Who knows, maybe there might be a conflict or war in the region, but it won't be the apocalyptic end that this article is claiming. I like this argument, it gets my brain working and trying to think logically, but I hope you'll understand that there are rational actors that work within the state, and that they don't really want to see all of humanity wiped out.

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • CalPal:

      "There is also very little to no public support for more wars, and if you think the President or congress will go to war without the consent of the majority of its population, you're nuts."

      I have to answer you with your own words.

      YOU'RE nuts if you think this government has EVER gone to war needing OUR permission! Can you say Vietnam? Or how about ANY of those countries we've bombed since WWII.

      MOST people were AGAINST going to war with Iraq. Afghanistan was one thing, which I totally disagreed with that my own damn self!

      Marshall Dillons should have been sent to arrest thugs...NOT the Greatest Military in the world! All we did was legitamize those damn fools by sending our soldiers after them!

      That is the problem, really. Our soldiers are the world's police and our police act like soldiers against US!

      Obviously, you did not read my comment...you just glanced over it without contmplating the ramificaions of what I suggested. And if you think North Korea and China aren't hooked at the hip, you need to investigate their relationship further. And just like Iran is NO Iraq, North Korea is NO pushover!

      Also, in the news this past 24 hours, Iran made an attempt to assassinate a Saudi Ambassador on our soil. That could escalate into something we all do not want yet OUR government, with the Isrealis standing with us, COULD go to war over this.

      To bring up another "what if"....what if North Korea supplied a terrorist group with a nuclear weapon? Do you think the U.S. would give that a "pass", too?

      Or would we do SOMETHING to prevent that from ever happening again?

      You really do need to start thinking outside that teenie, tiny box you are living in and see the possibilities that exist out in the real world of terrorism.

      Haven't all those fearmongering scenarios the Rethughlicans coem up with every day enough to scare the Bejebus out of you?

      And....you quite obviously have not read up on the many times we and the fromer Soviet Union came within a hair's breath of pushing the "button". That's why they came upo with the "Red Phone" solution...just in case!

      And furthermore, the threat of a cold war is "heating up" again (pun intended) between us and Russia! FYI. Just ask any Rethuglican and they'll tell you that the threat is back!

      Hell, just ask Sister Sarah! She sees Putin's head rearing up all the time from her front porch!

      Finally....if you think that the elite are concerned about your survival...you've got to be kidding me! As a matter of fact, if most of us were to die in a global nuclear war, they have the means to go underground, wait things out and then pop up out of their hiding holes and have this earth all to themselves...and they wouldn't shed one tear over your not being there to greet them!

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • CalPal:

      "Nobody profited when Germany was finally conquered in WWII, Europe was devastated..."

      Who told you that? Whoever it was or is, go tell them that they are sadly mistaken!

      Private companies made so much money from being paid to rebuild Germany alone that it made thousands millionaires!

      Where do you think the Koch family made their fortune? Or the Bush clan. Or any one of the moguls of industry!

      Armand Hammer made his fortune rebuilding the Soviet Union!

      Armand Hammer (May 21, 1898[2] – December 10, 1990) was an American business tycoon most closely associated with Occidental Petroleum, a company he ran for decades, though he was known as well as for his art collection, his philanthropy, and for his close ties to the Soviet Union.

      Thanks to business interests around the world and his "citizen diplomacy," Hammer cultivated a wide network of friends and acquaintances. Late in life, he would brag that he had been the only man in history friendly with both Vladimir Lenin and Ronald Reagan. - Wikipedia

      Seriously dude, you need to stop reading those Texas history books!

      BTW...Arm and Hammer baking soda had NOTHING to do with Armand Hammer!

    • 8 months ago
  • futuregen
  • futuregen
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      futuregen  

    • We need a whistle blower from the US military before it's too late for survival on this planet. Somewhere between 2000 and 2002 I video-taped a C-Span airing of a Joint Chief of Staffs meeting where they were discussing/PLANNING WW III. They discussed that China, Pakistan and Russia would be on one side and India, (Germany I believe), England, and the U.S. would be on the other side. I couldn't believe what they were discussing, i.e. that was not any future I wanted to see, so I hit the record button. I took this tape into work where I showed my boss, a chiropractor and a monsignor of the Catholic Diocese of Peoria, Illinois. They both saw the tape. I also showed them the tape of Dick Cheney's first interview with the late Tim Russert after the 2000 election, where Dick stated we would be going to war.

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/24511045@N04/5418558571/

    • 8 months ago
  • squarethecircle
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • Nick19
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      Nick19  

    • Obscure Blog doesn't equal source! (I would get a fucking F. in my class if I used nothing but obscure source material from some nearly unknown blog). I can make a blog and write the same shit and call it a source material. I also wish to mention that as I opened the site, my computer warned me that there was a virus located. Please proceed with caution when using this "source".

    • 8 months ago
  • squarethecircle
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      squarethecircle  
    • Nick19:

      where else does discussion come from? this was just a starter to everything said below and I'd post it again and again for just that reason...you gotta start somewhere...not saying everything is truth but there is a bit between the lines

    • 8 months ago
  • sue4e3
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • Nick19:

      Myabe the title of the "book" is different, but one must agree that SOMETHING is going on and we're being left in the dark and aren't being told the truth.

      I feel our asses are in a terrible "sling" and politicians are scared shitless to tell us the REAL truth because we would tear them to pieces if we only knew what's what!

      I think the Republicans thought shit was going to hit the fanblades and were instrumental in putting Obama in the White House and only now realized that it hasn't happened .....YET.

      Next on their "list"?

      A Mormon?

      It's like playing that game, "Hot Potato"....whoever is holding it last gets blamed for everything.

      GWB did what he was instructed to do and he did it well. He was a pawn. Cheney was the "architect" who was really pulling the levers behind the scene. His ties with Halliburton and then becoming VP wasn't a mere coincidence.

      It was planned all along!

    • 8 months ago
  • jpvt
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      jpvt  

    • We can't even decisively "win" wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We now have multiple generations of self-centered idiots in control of this country. We can't mange to do a single thing well anymore. I actually find it hard to believe that the Russians and Chinese would be scared of us at this point. We can't even wipe our collective ass without help in this country anymore, much less launch anything close to an effective land invasion of the Middle East and Central Asia!

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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    • In 1998 I made a prediction, to my wife, that when I read how Burger King could not hire enough burger flippers for 12 bucks an hour that the day will soon come that a person wouldn't be able to BUY a job...that people would work for NOTHING (interns).

      She told me then how she couldn't imagine those things happening.

      In 2000 when Bush's banks of attorneys were taking his "case" before the SCOTUS over the vote-counting in Florida, I predicted that he would be handed the presidency and before he left Office, he would RUIN this Nation's financial standings and because of his hatred for Saddam would most likely start a war with Iraq...mainly since Saddam had a heafty bounty on the head of his father GHW Bush and how George would have that mosaic of his father's face torn up from the lobby floor ot the Al Rasheed Hotel that Saddam had visitors step on as they entered.

      In 2003, I was warning friends and family to NOT invest their hard-earned money in real estate. That houses were priced far too high above their real value. They laughed and kept buying second and third homes. My sister-in-law and her husband bought a total of 12 homes to rent out...not counting their primary and vacation homes.

      In 2007 I warned friends and family to transfer their stock holdings into safe havens since I foresaw the market going bust!

      In 2008 I saw friends and family buying gold for a hedge against their losses in the stock market and real estate as I warned them not to. That "bubble" will soon be bursting. I have been advising them to sell what they have and sock their money in Treasury bonds...since if the government goes down it won't make one iota difference where their money is invested. But just in case...Treasury bonds are the safest place. If there is such a thing.

      You don't want to know what my predictions are for the future of this Country.

      Or us, the middle class and poor.

    • 8 months ago
  • JustZ
    • +1
      JustZ  

    • Geez. It never fails. There's always someone ready to claim the sky is falling... just to get attention. Here's a thought; try coloring your hair instead to a bright shade of purple or orange! Its far less offensive to those of us who are actually paying attention to the real world.

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +1
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • JustZ:

      Where were you when the Rethuglicans were destroying this country ten years ago? Or THREE years ago? Where were you when GHW Bush was making preparations for a New World Order back in the late 1980s? Where were you when Ronnie Raygun was destroying private sector unions, public sector unions and had put up "Welcome To America" and "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs!" signs all along our Southern Border during the 1980s so corporations could hire those that came here because they were INVITED for half the wages Americans were beng paid to do the same job?

      Where were you when Tricky Dick took us down the Primrose Path so trade between us and Communist China started the drain of our money AND jobs overseas? And Nixon was using the MSM then as the government is now! Or wiretapping, police brutality!

      Whatever it was that had your eyes closed to all of those things are STILL keeping you from looking around and seeing what's occurrring now!

      This song is nearly 41 years old...and not one damn thing has changed with those DO NOTHING Rethuglicans!

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +4
      Buckeye_Bill  

    • And what is left of us, those that aren't sent off to fight in wars, will face another "facet" of the corporate poisoning of society by way of their polluting our environment!

      And, who among us will deny that that is not happening?
      http://kochbrothersexposed.com/cancer/
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      Cancer Risks for Koch Profits

      Dear William, (and anyone else who reads this)

      Our Koch Brothers Exposed video investigation has discovered something so tragic it will haunt Charles and David Koch for years to come.

      Is a Koch Industries factory getting away with murder?

      While the brothers wage war against safety precautions, every day their factory is dumping millions of gallons of wastewater into streams that flow near a small rural town in Arkansas.
      “The Koch brothers are killing me and my family,” Norma Thompson, a Crossett, Arkansas resident told us during our investigation. She’s lived near the Koch brothers’ mill for 39 years.

      Journey to Arkansas, watch her story and take action to help her stop the Kochs.

      In many ways, the Koch brothers personify what’s driving people young and old to fight money in politics, occupy Wall Street and protest in the streets. People are rising up and have identified the overwhelming corporate influence on democracy as a corrosive stain that harms the rest of us.

      Our latest video reflects this as we follow the money and prove the Koch brothers buy a system that makes them richer at the expense of everyone else. Through political donations, think tanks and front groups, the Koch brothers are able to weaken safety and oversight laws, which leaves communities like Crossett, Arkansas behind to suffer.

      We can stop the Koch brothers from poisoning towns and cities. Local community leaders in Arkansas have volunteered to hand deliver messages directly to Charles and David Koch.

      Will you post a comment Arkansas residents can use to stop the Koch brothers?

      Yours,
      Robert Greenwald
      and the Brave New Foundation team

      P.S. I invite you to join me on Facebook and follow me on Twitter.
      ----------------------------------------------------------------
      So...as we can PLAINLY see, the elitist corporatists don't give a damn about us! We're nothing more than cogs in their "Wheel of Wealth" money and power-making machinery.

      And they are doing EVERYTHING they can to remove all regulations that crimp the running of their business interests!

      They don't care about us OR this planet! Wealth and power are their gods.

    • 8 months ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Buckeye_Bill
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    • Vierotchka:

      It's the very same difference to me. War against Mankind or against our home...Planet Earth.

      Does it make it any better to die from the effects of war or from pollution? Corporations are waging war against everything. And the Rethuglicans are their biggest supporters!

      Either way, one is dead.

      Either way, we LOSE!

    • 8 months ago
  • JustZ
  • squarethecircle
  • Vierotchka
  • gypsysailor
  • sugarmountian
  • Buckeye_Bill
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    • If I could go back in time to warn our ancestors...I'd tell them to NOT permit their government to have weapons that they themselves could not possess.

      The last time that we Americans actually had a chance in Hell to overthrow a tyrannical government was prior to the Spanish-American War, when the U.S. Military was riding horses and carrying six-shooters. Ever since then, the military has been creating ever more dangerous weapons and now we find ourselves at a terrible disadvantage because if we were to try and revolt we would realize what the people of the Arab Awakening are finding out...like the Syrians have already found out...that the Egyptians are finding out now....and if it weren't for Nato and the U.S., the Libyans would have paid a heavy toll finding out since Gaddafi was using helicopters, tanks AND fighter jets against his own people!

      We would lose before we got a hundred miles near the White House. Or any State Capitol building.

      And a precedent has been set for the use of mercenary soldiers on U.S. soil.

      Think New Orleans.

      We would be reduced to guerrilla warfare like the Afghanistanis...and hiding in caves.

    • 8 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • GeorgeJones
  • squarethecircle
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      squarethecircle  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      maybe so but back then the Native Americans lost their battle for freedom and the right to continue their way of life...so the weapons have gotten stronger...the attitude and intent remains the same...conquer and control

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +2
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • GeorgeJones:

      We know far more now scientifically than we did, collectively, back then...so I doubt anyone would have believed in NOT believing in a Big Guy in the Sky then instead of now!

      It's like the smarter Mankind should be after gaining knowledge, the stupider Regressives and Devolutionists become!

      Ron Paul/1912!

      Or...

      Rick Perry/1861!

      Or...

      Herman Cain/1619! (When the FIRST ship (Dutch) brought slaves to America!)

      Let's go back to before indoor plumbing!

      Shall we?

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +4
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • squarethecircle:

      My father's ancestors learned the hard way to not bring knives to a gunfight.

      All they could say was, "Today is a good day to die"....and they did by the hundreds of thousands.

      Of course, disease killed off far more than any bullets ever did.

      And that great day of celebration is just around the corner, too!

      But not for the red man.

    • 8 months ago
  • GeorgeJones
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    • Buckeye_Bill:

      Great point. I just get more satisfaction looking at the Hubble deep field shot and knowing that we are a part of something as incredible as the universe. That being said, I have a hard time swallowing ANY of the texts written by MAN, which all seem to be about control. But without it, could we have evolved to this point? What gets me though is that each one say's don't kill, love your fellow beings, and treat each other the way you want to be treated, but how many people really do, and they are the one's pushing it on us.

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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    • GeorgeJones:

      Let's count how many times the love for our fellow Man (and women and children, too) has prevented war...hmmm...geez Louise, I can't think of one instance.

      Can you?

      List of countries the USA has bombed since the end of World War II

      Global Research, May 4, 2011
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      China 1945-46

      Korea 1950-53

      China 1950-53

      Guatemala 1954

      Indonesia 1958

      Cuba 1959-60

      Guatemala 1960

      Belgian Congo 1964

      Guatemala 1964

      Dominican Republic 1965-66

      Peru 1965

      Laos 1964-73

      Vietnam 1961-73

      Cambodia 1969-70

      Guatemala 1967-69

      Lebanon 1982-84

      Grenada 1983-84

      Libya 1986

      El Salvador 1981-92

      Nicaragua 1981-90

      Iran 1987-88

      Libya 1989

      Panama 1989-90

      Iraq 1991

      Kuwait 1991

      Somalia 1992-94

      Bosnia 1995

      Iran 1998

      Sudan 1998

      Afghanistan 1998

      Yugoslavia – Serbia 1999

      Afghanistan 2001

      Iraq 2003

      Libya 2011
      ------------------------------------------

      And we wonder why most of the World hates us and calls us Imperialists and Warmongers!

      Not to mention we build far more weapons than the rest of the world combined!

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • squarethecircle
  • squarethecircle
  • squarethecircle
  • GeorgeJones
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    • Buckeye_Bill:

      Incredible! This is what I mean. If, at the start it was not some random gases that started it all and there was a creator, what has made us think that a power that great would really even know we exist, or even care? We are sub-atomic in the universal scale. Thanks I love this stuff. We don't realize how SMALL we really are.

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +4
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • squarethecircle:

      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! NOT!

      Man, you're good at shoving that round thang into a not round thang!

      Or is it the not round thang into the round...LOL...you get my drift.

      You and I could sit on a rock and pass the time away chatting about things our mommas never told us....OR our school mar'ms, either!

      Ever see this video?

      And the very same corporations are still with us today! It's round two...and they have something "hidden" in their boxing gloves to use against us since they have learned their lessons well from the last time they went up against us.

      This time they're ready. This time they think they can win!

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • squarethecircle
    • +1
      squarethecircle  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      it's relevant to the combo of Earth and Heaven coming our way...the inexplicable happening whether we like it or not...would love to sit and chat...thanks for the video haven't seen it before, but didn't realize any of this til I saw the History Channel version in my 20's. Makes me think my mother found a poisoned father dead and not a heart attack father dead at the age of 11...can't thank you enough....if your ever in North Port , FL look me up...

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • squarethecircle
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • Image
    • squarethecircle:

      Well, there just so happens to be a very nice, comfortable one that I know of that overlooks the Big Darby Creek that would be a perfect place for conversation!

      You know how to get in touch...so any time!

      LOL!

      +^d

    • 8 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
    • +6
      VFORVENDETTA  

    • Damn! and I thought the whole time, that Armageddon was going to be achieved when the reptilian/human hybrids- that have a massive subterranean kingdom within the hollow earth, at least according to Alex Jones-finally decide to return to the surface en masse, to wage war on all humanity with the goal of complete and total human enslavement, oh well, I guess the reptilian/human hybrids will have to be just like anything else and wait their turn.

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • artemis6
  • mitekillem
    • +3
      mitekillem  

    • WOW - THIS IS THE DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER READ.
      The US at war with Russia, the middle east, and all of Asia? That's over half of the world's population! You can't win that. We can't even win in Afghanistan.
      And the person who starts something like that is painting a target right on their head.

    • 8 months ago
  • squarethecircle
    • +1
      squarethecircle  
    • mitekillem:

      we have more money spent on military than every other nation combined...and we are already at war in most of those locations whether we are told so or not. Our mercenary "non-government" orgs take it to them so we can pretend our hands are clean and have been doing so for years

    • 8 months ago
  • rossmick
  • squarethecircle
  • VFORVENDETTA
    • +3
      VFORVENDETTA  
    • squarethecircle:

      There is a difference between conspiracy, and conspiracy theory, this certainly falls within the latter, it reeks of conspiracy theory, it's just plain fucking dumb, you might want to do a bit more research before you post such tripe, and save yourself some embarrassment.

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • squarethecircle
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +3
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • rossmick:

      We shouldn't believe our lying eyes, either!

      Or our ears as the MSM tells us - as Brian Williams reported JUST last night - how we are facing a bigger loss of wages now than in 2009, there are more homes going into foreclosure now than in 2009, less people are working because there's fewer jobs now than in 2009...but the Recession has been over for more than two years, right?

      Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

    • 8 months ago
  • alexandrek
  • squarethecircle
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • Vierotchka
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  • artemis6
    • +3
      artemis6  

    • Well , some probably do believe they need a REALLY BIG DISTRACTION , to prevent people from saving the planet and our future , from the elites influence . It is however , far too late for that to work .... In fact , if they try it , that would be that LAST thing they want , because it would PROVE , beyond any shadow of doubt , they should NOT be in control of anything , WE should .

    • 8 months ago
  • squarethecircle
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • artemis6
  • CreditFigaro
  • squarethecircle
    • +3
      squarethecircle  
    • CreditFigaro:

      you're right, but some of us are realizing what is going on and for those people information is important...I don't think our gov't is coming out with the truth anytime soon so it must be found from other sources

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • squarethecircle
  • Vierotchka
  • squarethecircle
  • Vierotchka
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • Vierotchka
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +3
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • Vierotchka:

      Funny how governments can ALWAYS find the funds to support the military...they just don't have any for the welfare of the people.

      Of course, what they do with that military is for the "protection" of the people...so they say.

      I have some swampland for sa....ahh, never mind. They drained that sucker a long time ago!

    • 8 months ago
  • squarethecircle
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +3
      Buckeye_Bill  

    • After watching what has transpired over the past 30 years, the morphing of the MSM and how information is being distributed to the American viewing public, I don't doubt that there is a hidden agenda that keeps us in the dark as to what the Elite corporatists are scheming to put in place for a New World Order. George H. W. Bush spoke of this NWO in a speech he gave prior to his losing the 1992 presidential election to Bill Clinton.

      Nothing surprises me much any more.

    • 8 months ago
  • squarethecircle
  • squarethecircle
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • squarethecircle:

      The EU Times has no credibility whatsoever, all it publishes is bad sensationalist fiction. It is on the same level as the worst American supermarket tabloids. Margot B World News is a blog that is little better than the above.

    • 8 months ago
  • squarethecircle
  • Vierotchka
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +3
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • Vierotchka:

      I think it's plausible for those in power to have gleaned some terrific ideas from all the science fiction that has been written. Think how George Orwell's 1984 is coming true, or how the movie, Network, could have inspired Rupert Murdoch...or scores of novels that could have been used as a blueprint for unscrupulous organizations like Bilderberg to use for reelz!!!

      Aldous Huxley's Brave New World would be the outline I would use if I were one to think of a way to gain control of the world's populace for my own selfish desires!

      That would be my choice...even over Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged!

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • Vierotchka
    • +2
      Vierotchka  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      Certainly, but nothing posted here is remotely like him. Fearmongering, on the other hand, makes money for the mongerer, and the link provided in this submission above is no exception, it is akin to Alex Jones and as lamentable.

    • 8 months ago
  • squarethecircle
  • Vierotchka
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +3
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • Vierotchka:

      Mr. Murrow warned us of the possibility that if we were to allow the news networks to become profit-making entities, we would reap what we have sown...and by George, he was absolutely correct!

      Murdoch's Maniacally Maddening, Mentally Myopic Musings Masterfully Manipulating Mass Media Making Moguls Massively MORE Money Machine is obscenely pathetic!

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • squarethecircle
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