EPA displays erectile dysfunction regarding delays on carbon limits on oil refineries as CO2 emissions climb
source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/21/us-usa-epa-carbon-idUSTRE7AK1H520111121
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The delay is the latest setback for the agency's new raft of clean air rules on everything from smog to mercury pollution that are heavily opposed by industry.
The EPA had been required to propose the rules on refineries by mid-December, as part of a court settlement with states and environmental groups.
"EPA expects to need more time to complete work on greenhouse gas pollution standards for oil refineries," a spokeswoman for the agency said. The EPA is working with the litigants to develop a new schedule to replace the current mid-December date for a rule proposal, she added.
The EPA made the comments after sources on both sides of the issue told Reuters the agency would not make the deadline.
The EPA has not told refiners exactly how it plans to cut emissions, and that figuring out how to do so is taking additional time, an oil industry source said.
"How they are going to regulate greenhouse gases, they are not sharing that with us," the source said.
The petroleum industry says it is more difficult to cut emissions from refineries than it is from power plants, the EPA's top target of emissions. Many power utilities can switch from coal, which emits large amounts of carbon dioxide when burned, to burning cleaner natural gas. Refineries, however, mostly already run on natural gas, they argue.
Tough rules on greenhouse gas emissions could add expenses to companies including Exxon Mobil Corp, Valero Energy Corp, and ConocoPhillips.
But refiners can easily cut emissions -- and save money, a source with one of the litigants said. They can do so by replacing inefficient boilers, installing better valves to reduce leaks of methane, a potent greenhouse gas, and by generating power with "waste heat" given off at the plants.
The delays on greenhouse gas plans come after President Barack Obama forced the EPA in September to delay new limits on smog emissions until 2013, saying it was part of an effort to reduce regulatory burdens on business.
That decision came as Republicans in the House of Representatives complained about EPA's raft of new clean air regulations, saying they would kill jobs and add expenses to businesses as they struggle with the weak economy.
RECORD EMISSIONS
The delay comes as time may be running out for world efforts to control global warming emissions. Concentrations of carbon dioxide and two other greenhouse gases reached record levels last year and will linger in the atmosphere for decades, even if the world halts output of the gases today, the World Meteorological Organization, the U.N.'s weather agency, said on Monday.
The United States is sticking with Obama's pledge to cut greenhouse gas emissions by about 17 percent from 2005 levels by 2020. But a comprehensive energy and climate bill failed in the Senate last year, leaving emissions control largely to agencies including the EPA and the Department of Transportation. Last week those agencies proposed doubling auto fuel efficiency.
Meanwhile, U.S. CO2 emissions from energy sources last year rose nearly 4 percent as factories ran harder and as consumers boosted air conditioning during the hot summer.
The EPA has also delayed proposing a plan on reducing emissions from power plants, which are the country's single largest source of emissions blamed for warming the planet.
Those rules were initially delayed in June and again in September. Last week Lisa Jackson, the EPA administrator, said the plan on power plants would be rolled out early next year.
It was unclear if the EPA would also miss the deadline to finalize the rules on refineries by mid-November, 2012.
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JanforGore
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Only cowards vote down legitiimate comments.
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coolplanet
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Castration is more like it!
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coolplanet
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JanforGore
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http://current.com/technology/93464821_climate-communication-the-science-has-nev...
Deniers like the Koch Brothers and all those paying for misinformation on this or enabling them need to be prosecuted.
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coolplanet
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JanforGore:
The U.S. really needs to restore the Fairness Doctrine (abolished by Reagan) which helped prevent news media from lying.
This would certainly shut down Fox "News." - 1 year ago
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coolplanet:
Will it keep the EPA from kissing the republican's a$$eS too?
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coolplanet
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JanforGore:
I think that people at the EPA are terrified that the new rethuglican president will shut them down (as promised by every candidate) that they don't want to make any waves before the 2012 election. They realize that their only hope to address ozone and CO2 is if Obama is reelected.
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coolplanet
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coolplanet:
Then they're wrong. We don't have time for these BS political games anymore.
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JanforGore
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coolplanet
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JanforGore:
So what if the EPA imposed strict smog and carbon regulations today in this tea party climate?
The only thing it would accomplish is votes for the GOP who have promised to shut down the EPA.
Perhaps I give redneck rethuglicans more power than they have but I see what they have done to our country and planet, and don't put anything past these stupid bastards.
What I fear most is that we impatient democrats will not vote for Obama to spite our own nose.
Give me a better option and I will listen. - 1 year ago
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coolplanet:
The Senate already just recently smacked down Rand Paul's attack on our air. I think you do give them much more power and instill more fear of them than they deserve, which actually in my mind is making them look stronger to voters who then don't think they have a chance at turning them back so they don't even try. And what good would it do? It would hopefully start decreasing one of the main sources of this climate catstrophe which is much more important than the GD Tea Party and their destructive agenda. This is crunch time for our planet and our continued survival on it. We either stand up to them or we will fall.
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coolplanet
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JanforGore:
I wish I possessed a quarter of your passion, determination and vision.
You really are an inspiration to me!
Alas I have let cynicism sink in.
Maybe it's because I don't have children.
You are right that we are running out of time. Cynical me thinks we have already passed the tipping point in the year 2000.
This is a fight alright!
But MAN i am weary.
I'm just glad there are fired-up people like you on the planet.
It really is mind over matter. - 1 year ago
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coolplanet:
I appreciate your response and believe me I have my cynical moments as well. But this is something for which failure is simply not an option. And you don't have to have children to understand this, and I know you do. Don't give into the despair, there is still much beauty and good in this world left to fight for.
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http://current.com/technology/93506993_the-ethical-dimension-of-tackling-climate...
Politics and ethics. A true oxymoron. - 1 year ago
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JanforGore:
I think this is the main reason for denial. People don't want to believe that their lifestyles are reaking such destruction around the world.
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coolplanet:
Of course. The arrogance and self importance of man... which will wind up ironically being our downfall if we don't get our act together. We are fast running out of time for that realization.
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http://current.com/technology/93526044_2010-biggest-jump-ever-seen-in-global-war...
But hey, look at our democrats and republicans who get to play politics with this again. As well it should be. Afterall, they come first.
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http://current.com/technology/93531666_14-u-s-billion-dollar-weather-disasters-i...
Oh but sure, a revenue neutral carbon tax or holding corporations accountable in any way is just way too expensive, poor babies. But just try taking to the streets in this country and see how their money works for them.
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http://current.com/green/93533950_health-cost-of-6-u-s-climate-disasters-14-bill...
This isn't even the half of it. But that's OK EPA, let's just keep allowing oil companies to use our atmosphere, our commons as an open sewer by privatizing the very air we breathe.
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http://current.com/technology/93534287_iea-warning-we-re-headed-toward-11-f-glob...
We can't say we weren't warned.
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http://current.com/technology/93547687_ipcc-extreme-weather-report-is-another-bl...
And it's because of POLITICS that scientists have been downplaying this. - 1 year ago
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http://current.com/community/93550887_doubtmongering-an-interview-with-dr-naomi-...
Very good interview and video interview.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore
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Maybe the sexual connotation will make it more important. You know, can't get it up when you need to.
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They keep wanting to blame it on "carbon credits" & "cap & trade"... For a split second I see where they're coming from, how certain regulations may prove unfair, or just like paying corporations in the form of "carbon credits" they can then sell...
But seriously, I think the future of the planet is a little more important than fighting over the policies to ensure it's future...
It's messed up, I'm not that damn old, but it seems there has been quite noticeable climate change (warming trend) that I've physically felt/experienced in my life... Look at the past just 50 years of daily records, of highs and lows... You'd find out some of the last several years have been the hottest on record...
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Anonmaly:
POLITICS is going to doom us. I'm sick of it all. And of course, this doesn't get any replies, but NASCAR does. This society is already too far gone then. The one crisis right now that is most important for our survival is the one thing being swept under the rug here because GOD FORBID we offend Obama or expect him to use the bully pulpit to get this out there where it belongs since this do nothing Congress has already betrayed us. And nationwide because GOD FORBID the media DO ITS JOB. We also shouldn't discuss this because we are considered traitors to the "Democratic party" for daring to place responsibility across the board to all of them and put principle and our loved ones first. That's why posts get voted down here when you dare to not tow the line and sockpuppets get rated higher because they do.
However, these moves by the EPA are counterproductive to any progress regarding the catastrophe we are unleashing and that knows no political party, and yet, silence. Post after post on this has been written here with sincerity after much research. I started an entire group called Climate Extremes here to pass this important information on. Scientific statistics, the science behind this, the information necessary to raise awareness, all put here. Videos made where I poured my heart. And for what. I'm beginning to think it is all just a game here as well.
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Wonderful!
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letsliveinpeace:
Delaying this is wonderful?
"Meanwhile, U.S. CO2 emissions from energy sources last year rose nearly 4 percent ..."
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JanforGore
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Republicans are for sure traitors to the people of America and to this planet... the last thing we need however, are those in this administration ENABLING and BOWING DOWN to them. What a disgrace.
"The delay comes as time may be running out for world efforts to control global warming emissions. Concentrations of carbon dioxide and two other greenhouse gases reached record levels last year and will linger in the atmosphere for decades,"
What about DANGEROUS AND IRREVERSIBLE CLIMATE CHANGE do they not understand?
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JanforGore