Russian Scientists Seeking Lake Vostok Lost In Frozen 'Land Of The Lost'?
source: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/02/russian-scientists-lost-in-frozen-land-lost/
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A group of Russian scientists plumbing the frozen Antarctic in search of a lake buried in ice for tens of millions of years have failed to respond to increasingly anxious U.S. colleagues -- and as the days creep by, the fate of the team remains unknown.
"No word from the ice for 5 days," Dr. John Priscu professor of Ecology at Montana State University, told FoxNews.com via email.
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The team from Russia's Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute (AARI) have been drilling for weeks in an effort to reach isolated Lake Vostok, a vast, dark body of water hidden 13,000 ft. below the ice sheet's surface. The lake hasn't been exposed to air in more than 20 million years.
Priscu said there was no way to get in touch with the team -- and the already cold weather is set to plunge, as Antarctica's summer season ends and winter sets in.
"Temps are dropping below -40 Celsius [-40 degrees Fahrenheit] and they have only a week or so left before they have to winterize the station," he said. "I can only imagine what things must be like at Vostok Station this week."
The team's disappearance could not come at a worse time: They are about 40 feet from their goal of reaching the body of water, Priscu explained, a goal that the team was unable to meet as they raced the coming winter exactly one year ago.
When the winter arrives in the next few weeks, the temperature can get twice as freezing. Vostok Station boasts the lowest recorded temperature on Earth: -89.4 degrees Celsius (-129 degrees Fahrenheit).
If the team does reach the lake water, they will bring its water up through the hole and let it freeze there over the winter. The following year they will be able to start research on what they find, Priscu explained.
While there are only a few researchers actually working at the lake, scientists around the globe have been waiting with baited breath to see what the Russian's unearth this weekend.
"We are terribly interested in what they find," Alan Rodger, a scientist at the British Antarctic Survey, told FoxNews.com last year. "This is a lake that we don't think has been exposed for 15 million years. Therefore, if there is life there, we're going to have so many questions. How has it evolved over those years, how has it survived, what does it look like? Won't it be exciting to find something completely new on Planet Earth?"
Hey, where's the lake? Hidden beneath nearly 2 miles of ice in Western Antarctica.
The Lake Vostok project has been years in the making, with initial drilling at the massive lake -- 15,690 square kilometers (6,060 sq mi) -- starting in 1998. Initially, they were able to reach 3,600 meters, but had to stop due to concerns of possible contamination of the never-before-touched lake water.
"Ice isn't like rock, it's capable of movement," Dr. Priscu told FoxNews.com. "So in order to keep the hole from squeezing shut, they put a fluid in the drill called kerosene. Kerosene also grows bacteria, and there's about 65 tons of kerosene in that hole. It would be a disaster if that kerosene contaminated this pristine lake."
But the scientists came up with a clever way to make sure this debacle would not occur. They agreed to drill until a sensor warned them of free water. At that point they will take out the right amount of kerosene and adjust the pressure so that none of the liquids fall into the lake, but rather lake water would rise through the hole.
Priscu was concerned for his colleagues, but also admits the stunning scope of the story.
"It could be fodder for a great made-for-TV movie," he said.
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20thsieclefox
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*cues X-Files music*
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20thsieclefox
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wally60
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there are some things we shouldnt screw with
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wally60
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coolplanet
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Human arrogance is only surpassed by its ignorance.
"65 tons of kerosene"???
Let's just pollute every last nook and cranny while we're at it! - 4 months ago
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JanforGore
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coolplanet:
Humans. Can't leave anything alone.
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circlesquared
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JanforGore:
I think perhaps we can...it is our masters that want it all and if they can't have it they will destroy it.
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IceKat
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JanforGore:
It's called research. Some people like to learn, whereas some, Jan, like to stay glued to the ideological fallacy of a once golden age.
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IceKat
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warman1138
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What if they brought back ancient micro organisms, not good.
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attilatheblond
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Interesting, but point of order on Celsius/Fahrenheit:
"Temps are dropping below -40 Celsius [-40 degrees Fahrenheit] ..."-40 C does not = -40 F. Freezing temp of water is 0C or 32F How do they get -40 = -40?
as to the rest.... is Fox Mulder available to look into this? It's interesting.
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floydyboy
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attilatheblond:
As strange as it may seem -40c is the same as -40f. I can't believe I actually knew that still. I looked it up to double check myself & its true. I believe that is the only temp they actually match up. Someone pls correct me on that if I'm wrong. The matching up part.
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floydyboy:
You are correct, -40F = -40C.
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floydyboy:
Thanks for correcting me. But I will have to find an explanation as to why that is. Nothing personal, just that I am from Missouri. And I like to understand the whys of things.
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HarukoHaruhara
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attilatheblond:
The formula for converting Celsius to Fahrenheit is ÷5x9+32
So if it is 20C, you divide by 5 (to get 4), then multiply by 9 (to get 36), then add 32 (for 68 degrees Fahrenheit.)
If it is 100C, you divide by 5 (to get 20), multiply by 9 (to get 180), then add 32 (for 212 degrees Fahrenheit, the boiling point of water at sea level)
So, if you take -40C, divide by 5 (to get -8), multiply by 9 (to get -72), then add 32 (for a temperature in Fahrenheit of -40)
-40 is the only temperature that Celsius and Fahrenheit are the same.
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attilatheblond:
I was also totally thinking about the Xfiles espisode that is close too this.lol
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floydyboy
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attilatheblond:
It's actually very simple the difference between 0 & 1c is much smaller than the difference between 32 & 33f so at some point they have to meet up.
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TanzaniteDiamonds
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Amazing! Absolutely amazing.
I found some music for it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix3JO08eXq8 - 4 months ago
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Plue
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TanzaniteDiamonds:
Nice. Love te music. Who is it? +^d
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Plue:
Thank you, Plue. Glad you enjoyed it. The artists are Diane and David Arkenstone.
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Truthitswhatsfordinner
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Thanks for posting. Very interesting.
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JanforGore
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http://water-is-life.blogspot.com/2006/08/what-lies-beneath-lake-vostok-part-one...
http://water-is-life.blogspot.com/2006/08/what-lies-beneath-lake-vostok-part-two...I wrote about this six years ago. We are now the invasive species.
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JanforGore
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I hope two things. 1)that the Russians are careful in their extractions from the lake not to contaminate it. 2) that there's anything living in the lake at all.
Lake Vostok is the closest thing we might ever find to alien life. Let's try not to screw this one place up, shall we.
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EmperorThan
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CalPal
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Maybe they discovered the ancient city of the Elder Things?
/Mountains of Madness reference FTW. "ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"
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CalPal
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remanns
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Great post ! +^d
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kennymotown
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remanns:
Thanks!
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kennymotown
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kennymotown
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Man that place is cooollllld!
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kennymotown
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circlesquared
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Interesting Kenny...the Russians aren't the only country drilling into the frozen untouched lakes of Antarctica though...wonder what's going on?
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kennymotown
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circlesquared:
It's a mystery, I heard some think Atlantis is at the bottom! At the very least the Russians say they are trying to see what life can exist at the bottom, for further exploration of space and in particular Titan!
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kennymotown:
last year there was an article with very few facts available about something discovered under the ice...the Navy was sending it's boring machine to cut a path if I recall and the news crew that went to document the find vanished.
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circlesquared:
Thanks, the pieces of the puzzle are getting very weird indeed!
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kennymotown:
spent a good bit of time looking at Antarctica last year...it seems the images on Google Earth have been, "updated"...much is now blurry. I did find what was clearly the tip of a pyramid near one of our bases. when my kids get off the other computer I will look up the coordinates and see if it is still visible.
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circlesquared
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circlesquared:
Hey! I saw that movie! "The Thing".... Kurt Russell. And remade last year.
Seriously, hope this has a positive outcome. Thanks for the heads-up, kenny. I missed this story completely.
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rerushg
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rerushg:
missed it myself...never been a big fan of horror, there is enough of that in life already if you are awake.
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circlesquared:
I noticed the blurr as well, their hiding some shit thats for sure!
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rerushg:
I thought of that very movie last night when I heard about this story. Are we including circlesquarred on the same wave length? Something is definitely up!
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circlesquared:
Yes there is enough Horror but the movie is very good, one of Kurt's best!
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kennymotown:
gonna be by myself this weekend for the first time in years...maybe I'll sit down and watch it.
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circlesquared:
I think it was James Cameron who directed it, good stuff keep the lights on! :)
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rerushg:
+^d - thats exactly what this post brought to mind !
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remanns:
Yep. Good movie. The remake not quite so much. Though Mary Elizabeth Winstead can melt my ice anytime. :)
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circlesquared:
there is now a strange CG structure at the location I marked and everything around is extremely blurry...before you could zoom in close enough to see the airfield on the ice and details of the base built on and around the mountain.
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kennymotown:
James Cameron wishes he made that movie. It was John Carpenter.
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BKsaysAction:
I believe you are right! Thanks.
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kennymotown:
Damm they found my Fortress of Solitude. +^d
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kennymotown:
kenny
i believe there is a remake of that movie just came out havent seen it yet. - 4 months ago
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wally60:
I'll have to check it out! :)
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Plue:
It's going to be hard to find another place! :)
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Plue
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kennymotown:
Indeed. May have to go out as far as Jupiter and put something on Europa.
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Plue
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Plue:
I hear the Mars moon Phobos is full of gold if you care for pretty colors
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Plue
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circlesquared:
No, to close plus the greedy bastids are probably already making plans to minen it.
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Plue:
they tried to get samples but it fell from the sky
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